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A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« on: December 26, 2011, 04:17:41 pm »
Hello all, I haven't been on line here in years. I noticed a lot of the same names are still here.
I'm not that new to the Concours. I bought an '04 when they came out late in '03. Love that bike!
It's been nothing but a pleasure all these years. I've put a little over 47K on it. Most of my riding
is with my 'Wing friends. Added a J&M CB, Garmin, heated grips, K&N filters, Rifle shield and Voltmeter
to keep track of the juice. I would like to change the seat for one with a tad more comfort.

I think I must be getting soft in my old age.....any suggestions?

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 04:33:46 pm »
Russell.  Not cheap, but nothing this well made is.

http://www.day-long.com/
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 04:46:31 pm »
Russell.  Not cheap, but nothing this well made is.

http://www.day-long.com/



That of course is a matter of opinion. What works well for one person, doesn't necessarily work for the next person. I suggest trying to sit on somebody else's Russell first, to make sure you would like it. (preferably someone the same size) Some folks like Russell, some hate them. Not all butts and folks are the same. And even if you do like it. Make sure you can live with the look of it on your bike as well. If your OK with both. Then your in business. Just an observation based on past folks posts.

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 05:00:04 pm »
Yeah,,There are several Concours around Greensboro. I see them every now and then.
Not sure if any have changed the seats. I hope to make a few of the get togethers this year,
meet some of folks. Maybe have the opportunity to try some different seats.

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 06:34:17 pm »
I've got a Corbin and I think it's great.  It seemed a little too firm after the stock saddle, but a couple of hours riding it made me a believer.  I've switched it to a second and then a third Connie and have put about 140k on it and I'm still happy.

And while I believe the good Captain when he says some people don't like the Russell Daylong Saddle, not a single one of the Russell owners I've ever known falls into that category.

http://www.day-long.com/

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 06:47:44 pm »
And while I believe the good Captain when he says some people don't like the Russell Daylong Saddle, not a single one of the Russell owners I've ever known falls into that category.
http://www.day-long.com/


I happen to personally  know of three  not satisfied Russel owners. The person who sold me  his Russel seat  , then me and then the  person to whom I sold my Russel which he either sold or is still selling. I do have to say that this  was a very nice seat looking, comfortable, well made top of their line seat. the Russel seat to some people just does  not feel right.  I can best describe it as: 'It felt like riding on top of a bar stool strapped to the  bike'. Some people like  the feel of being part of the bike , as 'one' so to speak. We all  tried to make it work because it is a big investment  but it did not. I went back to my Corbin which I prefer.
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 06:54:48 pm »
I've got a Corbin and I think it's great.  It seemed a little too firm after the stock saddle, but a couple of hours riding it made me a believer.  I've switched it to a second and then a third Connie and have put about 140k on it and I'm still happy.

And while I believe the good Captain when he says some people don't like the Russell Daylong Saddle, not a single one of the Russell owners I've ever known falls into that category.

http://www.day-long.com/




Just to point out. If they own a Russell, wouldn't you tend to believe that they do in fact like it. Otherwise, why would they still own it in the first place?  ;)

 Now Russell does make a good seat. But in my case, I've sat on a few Russell's (folks about the same size as me). I personally didn't like any of them. I was curious about the hype. But didn't particularly care for the looks. Once I've sat on a few. I knew they wouldn't work for me. But like I said, others swear by them. I do know of a few folks who also passed on them, either after having one built, or trying someone else's of the approximate size.
 What it comes down to is different butts, like different things. Some folks swear by, Sergent, Corbin, Mayer, Russell, etc., and even the OEM seat. We're all different. That's why I always suggest trying one out if you can before spending the money. Because some like Corbin's, others hate them. It all depends on your butt!  :))

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 07:04:29 pm »
And while I believe the good Captain when he says some people don't like the Russell Daylong Saddle, not a single one of the Russell owners I've ever known falls into that category.
http://www.day-long.com/


I happen to personally  know of three  not satisfied Russel owners. The person who sold me  his Russel seat  , then me and then the  person to whom I sold my Russel which he either sold or is still selling. I do have to say that this  was a very nice seat looking, comfortable, well made top of their line seat. It just does not feel right to some of use who don't like the 'feel' of riding on top of a bar stool strapped to the  bike. We  like the feel of being part of the bike , as 'one' so to speak. We tried to make it work but it did not. I went back to my Corbin which I prefer.


Mike brings up an excellent point about most "custom seats".  Russells and several others are made specifically for the purchaser and while you might have the same body shape, weight and size as the previous owner, most likely you do not. Therefore it is important to note than for the best results the Russell and other custom seats should be treated as such and buying a used Russell or any other custom seat will not just not fity you the same as the original PO. 

As to the Corbin I had one for several years and yes I did like the feel to it. They are very hard, yet give you the support where you need it. Oh and I can "Zen" just as well with my Russell as I could with the Corbin or stocker! 

Here are few more links to play with.

http://www.corbin.com/
http://www.richscustomseats.com/
http://www.rickmayercycle.com/
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2011, 07:18:31 pm »
I'm sure there is someone in this world that didn't like their Russell Seat.  I have yet to meet that person, but no doubt there are a few out there. 

I have had and currently have several Russell Seats.  I have tried a number of others including Corbin, Rick Mayer and so on, and even though they were good seats, they were not the same as a Russell.  I don't like the price, but in my opinion the Russell can not be beat.  They look like crap, but they ride well.

As for trying someones Russell, even though they may be approximately the same size, your butt and riding style must be exactly as theirs to get the benefit.  Over time the Russell will conform to the rider, including his/her riding style, which means what is comfortable to them, may not be comfortable to you, even though you may be the same size.  So the bottom line is, just sitting (riding) on someone seat will not give you the custom fit as if it was made for you. 

My two cents worth.

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2011, 07:41:00 pm »
 I'm not down playing that they are comfortable for you. I just personally don't care for soooooo much material where Russell puts the wings. I also didn't like the way that I felt crowded  on everyone I tried. There was no doubt in my mind that It would not work for me. And I actually have a small butt. But I felt crowded. Maybe I needed much more butt to raise me up more so I had more room!  :))
 Anyway, I know somebody who had one made for his C14. It sits on his work bench since new. He didn't care for it. My point is that just because certain folks like them and have them built for them. That doesn't mean that they will like Russell's design for them. It's great that it works for the folks that do have them and like them. But please don't assume that because some owners find the seats design style comfortable for them, that every one will.
 I personally would have been a little upset had I spent all that money for the Russell design, that I found everyone of them to feel like. Only to have mine sit on a bench as well. Like I said, some folk prefer certain things in seat than others.  And now to put the damper on it. I probably couldn't leave one on my bike anyway. I could never leave a seat that looks like that on my bike, no matter how good it felt. I actually like to look at my bike. The Russel look would ruin it for me!   :))

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Re: A little More Comfort Please!
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2011, 07:46:15 pm »
I knew I could count on this group for input!

Do any of you know of someone who does seats in the Southeast?

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 08:00:42 pm »
Spencer is in FL, IIRC.   


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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 08:08:48 pm »
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 09:06:23 pm »
I'm not down playing that they are comfortable for you. I just personally don't care for soooooo much material where Russell puts the wings. I also didn't like the way that I felt crowded  on everyone I tried. There was no doubt in my mind that It would not work for me. And I actually have a small butt. But I felt crowded. Maybe I needed much more butt to raise me up more so I had more room!  :))
 Anyway, I know somebody who had one made for his C14. It sits on his work bench since new. He didn't care for it. My point is that just because certain folks like them and have them built for them. That doesn't mean that they will like Russell's design for them. It's great that it works for the folks that do have them and like them. But please don't assume that because some owners find the seats design style comfortable for them, that every one will.
 I personally would have been a little upset had I spent all that money for the Russell design, that I found everyone of them to feel like. Only to have mine sit on a bench as well. Like I said, some folk prefer certain things in seat than others.  And now to put the damper on it. I probably couldn't leave one on my bike anyway. I could never leave a seat that looks like that on my bike, no matter how good it felt. I actually like to look at my bike. The Russel look would ruin it for me!   :))

I agree out of everyone who has ever purchased a Russell, a few felt like it was not the seat for them.  I do believe, without having any statistics to back it up, that the percentage is very very low for unsatisfied customers. 

As for the seat sitting on your friend's bench, Russell has a return policy, so he could have returned the seat. 

As for the style, I will agree that the Russell is one ugly seat.  They now have a sports version, that would probably be more fitting to a bike like the C-10.  I actually think it looks better, but  I personally went with the tour model because most of my riding is long distance.  So there are options even when selecting a Russell. 

Don't misunderstand me, there are a lot of good, even great seat makers out there.  I guess one just has to do what I did and start spending money to find out which one is the best for them.

In the end the one spending the money has to make their decision.   :)
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 11:19:00 pm »

In the end the one spending the money has to make their decision.   :)

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2011, 02:54:35 am »
Anyone got any experience with Cee Bailey's seats? 
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 12:23:38 pm »

In the end the one spending the money has to make their decision.   :)

Yes indeed... In the end!  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 01:30:19 pm »
Spencer is in FL, IIRC.   


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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 01:40:24 pm »
Spencer is in FL, IIRC.   
http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php

+2  My stock 98 seat was DEAD after a 1000 mile rally weekend. I was sitting on the plastic on the ride home.  The foam 100% gave up.   I sent it off to Spencer, and had it back w/i a week.  It feels firm at first touch, but it keeps its shape and is comfy for a long ride.  I broke mine in on a 1000 mile Saddle Sore.  Its not a pillow, but it is way better than what I started with. 

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 04:05:01 pm »
I recently bought an airhawk pad and love it . I can easily ride all day now . With my corbin alone....it was about 2 hrs max . But I'm a skinny guy with no butt .
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 07:00:16 pm »
I had a Corbin that felt good for a day or so, but after three days in the saddle I was in pain.  Put the stocker back on when
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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2011, 02:08:03 am »
I ran Corbin seats in the 80's before I found my current seat builder here in Fresno. I will say the best seat is the one that is built for you by someone that knows motorcyle seats. My seat is the stock seat  cut and recovered to fit me. What a big differance from the stock setup and well worth the money!

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2011, 06:50:02 am »
I ran Corbin seats in the 80's before I found my current seat builder here in Fresno. I will say the best seat is the one that is built for you by someone that knows motorcyle seats. My seat is the stock seat  cut and recovered to fit me. What a big differance from the stock setup and well worth the money!


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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2011, 08:23:20 am »
I agree. The whole bike (from what we can see) looks to be shinning. And the seat sets it off nicely.  :)

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Re: A little Mopre Comfort Please!
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2011, 07:44:39 pm »
THANKS GUYS, I WILL PASS ALONG YOUR NICE WORDS TO ROCKY.
I agree. The whole bike (from what we can see) looks to be shinning. And the seat sets it off nicely.  :)