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Hey folks,

I recently purchased for new bars for the bike.  They are 7/8 tubular bars.  When I turned over from the old style bars, I brought the original bar end weights with me :great:, but these new bars have a smaller inner diameter.  Any recommendations on where to pick up some other bar end weights?  I've been looking all over the web but not finding weights with inner diameter labeled. :truce:

Also, I know I could get some hardware together and make them myself and use the old weight.  Any folks see a downside to that??

Thanks in advance for any replies!

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 02:33:55 pm »
Plenty of bar weights out there for bars of 7/8" diameter, just google bar weights, try Dennis Kirk, Competition Accessories, Iron Pony, JC Whitney, and this list goes on and on. You will find a lot. As far as maker or type, again, they all accomplish the same thing, style/color/size is up to you, mine were basic black that inserted into the bar end and tightened a hex head which in turn expanded a plug holding them tight.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 02:48:49 pm »
Beej,  since you have hollow bars,  check these out.  Mine are solid, so I can't use them. :(

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 03:57:52 pm »
BikeMasters sells the aluminum bars end weights. They also have stainless ones also. With the new 7/8" bars you will have way less vibration. I have been running these on my setup for years.
 http://www.bikemaster.com/parts/grips-and-parts/anti-vibration-bar-ends-7-8.html
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 04:14:26 pm »
Thanks for the suggestions!

Yes, there's a wealth of 7/8 outer diameter but I'm coming up short for inner diameter.  I thought they would be uniform but it would seem they are not.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 04:16:57 pm »
So what you are saying is these bars have an unusually thick wall section, and therefore, the id is smaller. Are they aluminum?

You could probably use a well nut: McMaster-Carr Then use stock or stock replacement ends.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 06:26:35 pm »
So what you are saying is these bars have an unusually thick wall section, and therefore, the id is smaller. Are they aluminum?

You could probably use a well nut: McMaster-Carr Then use stock or stock replacement ends.


Yes, that is precisely the case.  These are the bars https://www.denniskirk.com/tag-metals/black-x5-standard-handlebar-w-raptor-banshee-bend.p599572.prd/599572.sku  They are aluminum

Awesome! Yes, ideally, I'd just keep stock.  I'll give this well nut a whirl.  Thanks!
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2015, 07:18:50 pm »
Beej,  here's a model for Tag bars,  .550 I.D.
http://www.vibranator.com/product_p/s04-b07-n07-t150.htm

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015, 07:55:45 pm »
Thanks for the suggestions!

Yes, there's a wealth of 7/8 outer diameter but I'm coming up short for inner diameter.  I thought they would be uniform but it would seem they are not.

Beej,
  The Bikemasters I posted above are of the well nut design, in other words you loosen the bolt slide the rubber end in and tighten until secure.   
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 08:35:11 pm »
Yes, I purchased some well-nut design weights already; BUT the rubber piece wont fit inside the bar - its quite narrow.  I'll add some pics when I go back to the bike this week to swap the bars.  :great:
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 08:45:04 pm »
Yes, I purchased some well-nut design weights already; BUT the rubber piece wont fit inside the bar - its quite narrow.  I'll add some pics when I go back to the bike this week to swap the bars.  :great:

The rubber is very easy to reduce with a sanding drum in a dremel tool.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 08:51:12 pm »
Agree, but the nut didn't fit in either. :(

A new nut and grind down the rubber?  Well, now I'm thinking, if there's a good, better, best approach, forcing it to work may just leave me at "good".
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 08:57:52 pm »
At this point I'd probably just machine an aluminum slug and drive it in. Maybe weld it. Then drill and tap it.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2015, 01:18:04 pm »
There are a number of wedge type sleeves available for aluminum bars.  They are typically used on dirt bikes to mount hand guards.  Here are a few:

http://www.motosport.com/msr-dflectors-bar-end-mount-kit

http://www.motosport.com/acerbis-rally-brush-bar-insert

http://www.motosport.com/cycra-pro-bend-bar-ends-for-alloy-bars

You may need to get longer bolts to use these with your bar end weights.

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 08:18:58 pm »
Flat-spot,

Those look nice. Beautiful design; much better than the compressed-rubber type.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2015, 08:30:07 pm »
Paul,  I've been very curious about them for awhile, but  C14 solid handlebars can't use them.  Their website makes it sound like there's some science involved.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2015, 08:50:21 pm »
Agree, but the nut didn't fit in either. :(

A new nut and grind down the rubber?  Well, now I'm thinking, if there's a good, better, best approach, forcing it to work may just leave me at "good".

have you actually mounted and ridden with these bars yet, or are you assuming you need bar weights?
Those are pretty robust bars, and they should be quite isolated already due to design and materials...
just mentioning it.... I'd suggest giving them a go for a while before dumping $$ on something that may or may not be ideal...  ???

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2015, 03:54:56 am »
MOB, you bring up a good point.  Although, around the forum, the general consesus is that Connie buzzes away if there are no weights.  I might give it a whirl without; what's the worst that can happen.

If she needs em, I can get a well nut or one of the shiny pieces GF in CA recommends. 

I test fit the bars earlier today and my current cables are juuuuuuuuust long enough.  I drilled out and painted the holes for the controls so its all going back together tomorrow.

Will report back here with whatever conclusion I go with.

Thanks for all the great responses.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2015, 07:13:48 am »
Beej,  please don't take this wrong, but I'm guessing that the reason you haven't commented at all on the only suggestion here that is specifically made for your Tag bars, with tech developed for helicopter anti-vibration, is that they are just too much money?
I'm dyin' for someone to try these and review their effectiveness,  so my curiosity is sorta selfish because if I find out they work very well I'd be tempted to sell my PE bars and convert to tubular bars so that I could use them.  :great:  Or...or since this model is for .550 I.D.  I might get away with boring my solid bars. Until now I didn't know they made a model for a skinny I.D.  If I already had tube bars, I would have bought these long ago.  By the way, any "weights" that are made of aluminum won't help much at all.  On that I speak from experience.


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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2015, 02:13:00 pm »
Flat-spot, I'd love to buy some of those tailor made ends but I do feel like the spirit of the Concours is to balance the best quality with the lowest price. :86:  As you well know, the aftermarket for this bike is huge and deals abound on Ebay and in the Emporium. Working on this bike is a great hobby, I'd be cheating myself if I didn't try and find a creative option; maybe the well nut and use the OEM weights, or other simple solution will last another 50,000 miles.  Who knows!?

Besides, for $75, I could grab a SS clutch line or have half the $$ for a tire for my Mean Streak wheel.  Priorities, man.  ;D
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2015, 02:23:04 pm »
Flatspot, I tried something very similar on my dirt bike a few years ago and didn't notice any difference in vibration.  The science seems OK in theory, but my opinion is that they would need to be tuned to each model bike, since the resonant frequency is different between models and even individual bikes, otherwise you're just moving the resonant frequency around in the same way that adding more or less weight to the ends does.  JMO.
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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2015, 03:10:56 pm »
MOB, you bring up a good point.  Although, around the forum, the general consesus is that Connie buzzes away if there are no weights.  I might give it a whirl without; what's the worst that can happen.

If she needs em, I can get a well nut or one of the shiny pieces GF in CA recommends. 

I test fit the bars earlier today and my current cables are juuuuuuuuust long enough.  I drilled out and painted the holes for the controls so its all going back together tomorrow.

Will report back here with whatever conclusion I go with.

Thanks for all the great responses.

Lotsa people sufferning the hand buzz thing chase it with bar weights, problem is, they don't always work, adding weight simply changes the frequency of the vibe, and often times makes it worse... jmho.
Niether of my C10's were buzzy, go figure.... I did swap bars tho on both, using the Murph KB tubular adaptors, and Daytona and Superbike tubular steel bars... both of which never had a vibe in the least, I figure simply because they were stiffer to start with...
 Try them before going nutzo with weights, then you have at least tested them... those are super stiff bars you bought, I'm betting they will be perfect as is.

Oh, you really don't need to drill them for the dowel pins in the switch pods.... simply press/tap the pin from the inner surface outwards till its flush, it won't fall out its pressed in, and will be retained if you ever want to go back to OEM style. Just apply a wrap of black electrical tape to the area on the bar where the switch pod clamps on, it won't rotate. That's what I did on both my tubular setups.

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Re: Bar end weights for small inner diameter; any recommendations?
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2015, 03:11:11 pm »
Beej,  I can dig it.  :great:

GF,   glad to know that.  I was wondering about resonance too.
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