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Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« on: December 12, 2012, 10:48:15 pm »
Hi all.

Simply put, what is the lowest priced "good" carb sync tool for our bikes?

Want it to work well  / will only use for this bike - and loan out, I'm sure....

The motion pro seems to be the ebay leader.  Any good?

Thanks
« Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 11:03:55 pm by Alekkas »
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 01:27:04 am »
I have had the Motion Pro and the Morgan Carb Tune. The Carb Tune is twice the price, but so much nicer. I would spend the extra money and get the Carb Tune up front. I know that is not the answer you want. But its my opinion. Owned both. Still have the Morgan Carb Tune and loan out when needed. Gave away the Motion Pro to a fellow NWCOG member. -- I used to think the Motion Pro ones were just fine and half the price. Posted that on the forum many times years ago. Now I sing a different tune.
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 01:31:57 am »
+1. my EXACT situation / opinion. Steve
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 03:13:09 am »
+2 on all of the above. IMO, you don't really want to "price shop" for these tools, you want one that is reliable, accurate and you can depend on. The Morgan is the one for that. And it is always there and working perfectly every time you need it.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 04:02:16 am »
Anyone try the gauges?  I have the old mercury stick that works great but can't find mercury.  I bought a rack of 4 gauges thought I would try it.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 10:21:59 am »
I bought my Morgan carbtune direct from the manufacturer in the UK. The price varies by the currency exchange rate but when I bought mine it cost about $118 with the storage case if you just bought the tool alone it was about $95 and this is including shipping. The delivery took exactly one week to Illinois, which I was impressed with. The tool was a great investment and works flawlessly. Once you put the restrictors in line the rest is plug and play. HTH  Herbie   Here is there website  http://www.carbtune.com/
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 11:40:16 am »
+2 on all of the above. IMO, you don't really want to "price shop" for these tools, you want one that is reliable, accurate and you can depend on. The Morgan is the one for that. And it is always there and working perfectly every time you need it.

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+3 or what ever number we would be up to next.  ;D    Dan has my sentiments exactly.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 12:31:15 pm »
I bought my Morgan carbtune direct from the manufacturer in the UK. The price varies by the currency exchange rate but when I bought mine it cost about $118 with the storage case if you just bought the tool alone it was about $95 and this is including shipping. The delivery took exactly one week to Illinois, which I was impressed with. The tool was a great investment and works flawlessly. Once you put the restrictors in line the rest is plug and play. HTH  Herbie   Here is there website  http://www.carbtune.com/


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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 01:18:19 pm »
I have one I loan out, see my other threads and video for model (4 dial).  Cost shipping and whatever you send it back with.
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 02:57:36 pm »
Anyone try the gauges?  I have the old mercury stick that works great but can't find mercury.  I bought a rack of 4 gauges thought I would try it.

I started with gauges when I got my 1969 Honda CB750. Difficult to find and very expensive (since it was the only four cylinder motorcycle on the planet with four individual carburetors). They worked okay but getting the damping right in order to give accurate results was always an elusive situation. The sharp needle swings (in under-damped mode) was heck on the gauges also causing some needles to work loose.

I had merc tubes for awhile, worked okay but handling the unit and taking care of the mercury was a pain. The Morgan takes care of all that. Fixed dampers, no mercury, easy to use. It's all good.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 03:56:58 pm »
You can also make your own. I think I have about $25-30 total in mine. Most expensive was the Tygon tubing (Lowe's), the clamp to hold tubing in place, and the elbows and restrictor orifices from Advance Auto (to keep the oil in the lines, instead of letting it get sucked into the engine).
The Fluid is ATF, and since the board is a little about 3 feet long, give the equivalent of about 2" of mercury (ATF is 1/16 specific gravity of Hg).
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 04:53:03 pm »
Uhh...+4 on the Morgan Carbtune. Ordered mine from UK also. Arrived in short order and have no complaints. Storage bag is a plus to maintain adapters without another container to track.
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 09:19:03 pm »

Illinois?   >:D   :great:   :motonoises:  insert "hmmm, I have an idea emoticon here..."



Alekkas, I didn't even notice you live in the north central area, if you are close to me you are welcome to borrow mine if you would like, I live about 30 minutes from St Louis Mo close to Alton IL.  Herbie
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 10:58:53 pm »
You can also make your own. I think I have about $25-30 total in mine. Most expensive was the Tygon tubing (Lowe's), the clamp to hold tubing in place, and the elbows and restrictor orifices from Advance Auto (to keep the oil in the lines, instead of letting it get sucked into the engine).
The Fluid is ATF, and since the board is a little about 3 feet long, give the equivalent of about 2" of mercury (ATF is 1/16 specific gravity of Hg).
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I went this way too.  Made my own, about $40 spent.  Thing is, I only own one bike, and
don't need to sync carbs a whole lot.  I couldn't justify the cost, or resist tinkering!
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2012, 12:58:18 pm »
You can also make your own. I think I have about $25-30 total in mine. Most expensive was the Tygon tubing (Lowe's), the clamp to hold tubing in place, and the elbows and restrictor orifices from Advance Auto (to keep the oil in the lines, instead of letting it get sucked into the engine).
The Fluid is ATF, and since the board is a little about 3 feet long, give the equivalent of about 2" of mercury (ATF is 1/16 specific gravity of Hg).
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Every time i tried to build one I could never get the oil into the system properly.  It would always bubble and stratify in the tubes, I would leave it out of weeks to "breath" and it would never clear up.  I flushed the system and tried again with the same problems.  I wonder if the vinyl tubing I used was the culprit.

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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2012, 05:29:18 pm »
I used 2 stroke oil, and it required a lotta suckin' and a blowin'
to get the bubbles out.  It finally worked out.  The tubing
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2012, 06:57:03 pm »
If you are interested in gauges, I've had the JC Whitney (Emgo) for 5-6 years. Foolproof and reasonable @$60ish.
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 01:12:33 pm »
[quote author=Jorge link=topic=39755.msg234088#msg234088 date=1355
Every time i tried to build one I could never get the oil into the system properly.  It would always bubble and stratify in th!e tubes, I would leave it out of weeks to "breath" and it would never clear up.  I flushed the system and tried again with the same problems.  I wonder if the vinyl tubing I used was the culprit.

Not sure why you'd have the issue. I used the largest tube that would still seal around the nipples on the carb. What oil did you use? I know ATF has anti-foaming agents... maybe that's another thing that helped me. I poured oil in ine tube slowly and let the others come up to the level near center. There were some bubbles caught, but they were easy to get out by tilting the whole thing a little and tapping on the tube.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 04:46:55 pm »
This summer I picked up the cheaper dial-gauge type for about $60. They work fine, but you have to be skilled at adjusting the dampers.

Given the Motion Pro is $108 at JC Whitney now, I'd buy it instead.

Wait, does the Motion Pro also rely on adjustable dampers to not suck the fluid into the carbs? If so, that's pretty lame, and I retract the above!
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 05:00:51 pm »
Rather than play around. Why not just  get the one that nobody ever has anything bad to say about it.


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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 05:58:30 pm »
Not sure why you'd have the issue. I used the largest tube that would still seal around the nipples on the carb. What oil did you use? I know ATF has anti-foaming agents... maybe that's another thing that helped me. I poured oil in ine tube slowly and let the others come up to the level near center. There were some bubbles caught, but they were easy to get out by tilting the whole thing a little and tapping on the tube.

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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2012, 06:32:49 pm »
Rather than play around. Why not just  get the one that nobody ever has anything bad to say about it.
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Re: Carb Sync Tool ?'s
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2012, 01:10:46 am »
Rather than play around. Why not just  get the one that nobody ever has anything bad to say about it.


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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2012, 02:21:55 pm »
Some interesting ideas and a good write up for homemade ones blatantly stolen from the Ninjet forum:

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/How_do_I_synchronize_the_carburetors%3F





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