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Considering a Top Case +
« on: December 30, 2012, 08:11:29 pm »
I'm considering a Top Case for my 2006 Concours.  Looking forward to some long weekend trips,
(RWTW in the schedule) and I'm gonna need a little extra stowage.  Here's my frugal consideration:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Motorcycle-Scooter-X-Large-Trunk-Universal-Mount-Top-Case-fits-2-Helmets-/310551837676?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item484e54fbec&vxp=mtr

The mounting hardware seems pretty flimsy, and I'm not sure how universal the "universal bracket" will be.

Is there anything else I'll need to install this?  My bike has a 'factory' rear cargo pad.  Nuttin' else.

Chose this box because it's big and cheap...  :)   I'll field any suggestions, for.... big and cheap.
I still have a pretty big list of 'needs' for a longer haul, so I'm trying not to break the bank on this. :(
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 09:57:59 pm »
I haven't owned this exact box but I have purchased and used a couple of similar bargain trunks from ebay.  For the price I was happy with them.  The mounting plates and hardware were OK... On one the fit was great, the box did attached to the plate nice and tight.  On the other I found the box to be too loose when snapped into the mounting plate so I ran a bolt all the way from the inside of the box to the bottom of the bikes luggage rack to snug everything up tight.
On the Connie I find that most of the time I have the bags off and just the top box on for everyday hauling of my 'stuff'.
For that price I'd go for it.

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 01:11:49 am »
I got mine off eBay as well. I have to say after 2 years I have not had any problems. I painted mine to match the bike and the backrest pad made for the wife. As far as holding 2 helmets? they had better be small to medium for the lid to close. I will say find one that has the metal base plate. Ran into a guy that had the one with the plastic base plate and he said it cracked in a year. I paid 80.00 for mine and was in S.F for a doc appoint and picked it up while I was up there. Overall you can not go wrong with them for the price. As far as mounting goes, I think you will have to do a bit of fab work to get it to mount. I have the kawa assesorie rack and it went on with no trouble.
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 02:18:30 am »
Mine is a cheapo TMS.  PO put it on so don't know the process, but it sits well and fairly snug.  The mounting plate looks identical as does the internal construction.  Only the outer finish looks different.

 My wife talked me into taking off the bags after my long summer trips were done.  Haven't put them back on since.  A top box is very convenient for some stuff.  We have even done an overnight (hotel) with just the box.  Obviously serves as a backrest too.  My cheapo does just fine and stays dry too. 

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 02:11:54 am »
So, I bid the minimum on the top case, and who knew.... I won it... So now this:



will now have to go on the back of the Concours.  Once I get it here, I'll start working on fitting
and mounting.  I might have the wife make a backrest for it.... She'll thank herself for it later..lol.

$60 shipped.  I'm not complaining....   I have some LEDs I may be able to wire in.  New Projects!

The mounting plate on this box is metal, btw...  I was listening F-106!   :great:

Thanks for the input folks, it's always appreciated!
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 02:13:47 am »
Good deal , thinking of adding one to my gotta get list
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 03:11:55 am »
Looks like a great buy :beerchug: They are great trunks for the money. I leave mine on the bike and tend to use it more than the bags. I have heard of the guys taking a plastic cutting board and mounting it to the rear Connie rack to enlarge the mounting space for a trunk. Do a search and I know something will come up. I tilted mine the same angle of the bags to make it flow better with the bike. Just a thought.

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 11:01:41 pm »
I've got one of the larger Givi's with the Givi mounting system that requires you take off the Kawa rack and bolt through to the frame. It's eotjer a E52 or E55, not sure which.  I picked up the backrest pad for it, too. Love it. Takes two full face helments or my helmet and jacket. I use it to haul my work equipment around. Don't know where you are, but Riders' Hill in Dahlonega have good prices and are great folks. Not my place, but I like their prices, product, and work. Find them on the web and call up Dave. He's a former C-10 rider and now is on a Honda ST1300, but don't hold that against him.   :D

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 11:54:48 pm »
from experience, as long as you get the metal mounting plate instead of the plastic one, you should be ok. had a trunk which had a plastic plate and one night my trunk went mia.
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 01:36:05 am »
The Top Case showed up today, and the Case itself is nice.  pretty big actually,
but that's exactly what I was looking for.  I've got a set of top case rails enroute
also.  Things are coming together! 

The Mounting plate is good sturdy steel  Unfortunately, there are grommets for the case
to rest on, and one of the four is missing  :-[  The seller is a pretty big shop, so I'm
not expecting any troubles getting this resolved.  This DOES give me some time to
wire up a brake/running light set up for it.

Once the rails get here, I'll slap this puppy on  :)

EDIT:  They've already replied, and they're sending the missing part out tomorrow.
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 04:15:45 am »
You said you were waiting on rails to get to you so you could install your new trunk, any chance those are the Murphs top rails?  I've been trying to get some pictures of what those might look like,  but can't find pics anywhere.  If you are using the Murphs rails, would you mind posting your final install so I could see what the set up looks like?
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2013, 11:22:16 am »
Be careful of those grommets popping off. I lost one almost immediately but was able to get replacements from Twisted Throttle.
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2013, 11:44:33 am »
You said you were waiting on rails to get to you so you could install your new trunk, any chance those are the Murphs top rails?  I've been trying to get some pictures of what those might look like,  but can't find pics anywhere.  If you are using the Murphs rails, would you mind posting your final install so I could see what the set up looks like?

Yes, they are Murph's Top Case Rails, though I'm buying them from another COG member.
I'll be happy to snap a few pics for ya, both off and on the motorcycle, and with the top case. 
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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2013, 06:45:09 pm »
While I wait for the mounting rails, there's NO WAY I can leave this thing alone.
With custom fingerprints added, this is the view of the top case, from the rear.



That top reflector.... it looks waaaay to much like a brake light...  I'll have to fix that!

A total of 4 screws has the top case in pieces... no complaints, it made my work easier.

These two screws allowed the top cover to come off...



Like so.....



Then two screws held the new brake light lens in place with a piece of somewhat reflective white paper
behind it.  I removed those 2 screws, and the lens popped right out! 




That piece of white reflective paper became a template to make a rear cover.  I sacrificed a joint compound lid
for the material to make the cover.



After doing some fitting, and measuring, and soldering, I fabricated this LED unit to attach to the lens.




Here's the type of LED tape I used to make the LED unit.  It's adhesive backed, and can be
cut into 2 inch increments.  I did have to solder leads to each strip, then run the wires through
the back.  I then spliced them (soldered) from 4 to 2 leads.



The 2 pieces of the new brake light:



Remounted the brake light into the top cover, and brought it out to the garage to test:







Viola! 

Next, I need to weather proof the whole thing, so I will run a bead of clear silicone around the perimeter, and over the
where the wires come through, and that should keep things nice and dry.

Next....  I'm putting in a 'cargo light' so I can see what I'm gettin at in the dark.

I'm also looking at trying to light the sides up, but I'm not too sure that will happen.
(I still have more of this red LED tape :-[  Been sitting around since I did the Amp board on
my last car)  I have to figure out if I can keep the LED strips dry.  Stay Tuned!

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 07:12:37 pm »
NICE!! :beerchug: :beerchug:

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2013, 07:35:13 pm »
OK, where did you get the roll of LED's?

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2013, 10:48:36 pm »
Mine is about 3 years old.... they've come a long way since then.  Mine aren't as 'superbright'
as I'd like, but something's better than nothing.  At least (or, at last) I'm getting to use them!

SuperbrightLEDs.com has all kinds.  Here's a link:

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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 02:23:16 am »
Took the wife, with all her coupon savvy, and picked up the makings
of a padded backrest.  Total cost, $16.03.  Picked up some white LED
strips for the interior lights for $12.99 at Auto Zone,

Then spent a few hours playing with my new toys today.  The white LEDs
were peel-n-stick, not much engineering needed here, but a nice addition.
I'm going to put a magnetic contact switch so the lights go on when the
cover is raised.







Went back to the soldering iron after that, and set up the Side Marker LEDs.  The best place to put these lights
would land right where a screw holds the red lens on, so I spaced each set of 3 apart about an inch and a half. 





Tomorrow I'll install them, then run all the wires to a single disconnect plug, with the other end
going under the seat, so one plug will hook power up to the top case. 

I have to wait until I've got the top case mounted before I start on the backrest, so I know where
the seat sits in relation to the top case.  I did get the sewing machine working again... So I guess
there's a start!  It's been a fun project so far... Still totaling in just under $100 for a tricked out
Top Case.  ;D
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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 08:18:11 pm »
I've installed the marker lights, and I'm pretty happy with the end result.

I started by drilling out 6 holes on each side to match the lights I made (shown above).



Did a little deburring, and trimming then installed the lights inside the case.
These holes are under the red lens on the top case, so they are afforded some weather protection.
I used Clear Silicone RTV sealant/adhesive to hold the lights in place, then filled the holes from
the outside to 'weather proof' the LEDs.  I doubt I'm ever going back in to work on the lights, so
siliconing the bejeezes out of them seemed like a good way to keep 'em dry.



So now the installation looks like this from the outside.  Doesn't need to be pretty, it's going under the lens.
The end result, with the lens in place looks like this:



A BONUS!!  The shape of the Top case actually makes the side markers visible from behind!



Now it's time to route wiring, and install a switch for the cargo lighting.  I'll likely use some foam to cover the marker
lights on the inside, before I put the top liner in.  The liner will help hide wires, and protect the cargo a bit.  All the wiring runs
through the cover. (Convenient!)

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Re: Considering a Top Case
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 09:27:05 pm »
You said you were waiting on rails to get to you so you could install your new trunk, any chance those are the Murphs top rails?  I've been trying to get some pictures of what those might look like,  but can't find pics anywhere.  If you are using the Murphs rails, would you mind posting your final install so I could see what the set up looks like?


Yes, they are Murph's Top Case Rails, though I'm buying them from another COG member.
I'll be happy to snap a few pics for ya, both off and on the motorcycle, and with the top case.


Murphs Top Case Rails:




Here they are on the bike:




I'm in the middle of working on the top case.  Once it's done I'll post up finished pics, mounted on the bike.

Hopefully in a day....two tops.   :great:
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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2013, 11:21:05 pm »
Some folks are just darn clever. :great:
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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2013, 11:42:28 pm »
Hmmm, that doesn't look right.. Shouldn't the rail risers be on the outside? Now I don't know what your mounting plate looks like, but on my Shad plate,
the rails are just the opposite from your mounting..

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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 01:31:08 am »
Hmmm, that doesn't look right.. Shouldn't the rail risers be on the outside? Now I don't know what your mounting plate looks like, but on my Shad plate,
the rails are just the opposite from your mounting..


The Shad top case would probably use the set up below....



BUT.... I have a cheapo case.... that doesn't fit on that set up...



IF I turn 'em around like I have originally pictured, the mounting plate lines up two holes...



... and I can put make a piece of steel to go across the back (view from below).....



Really wish I had a Shad Top Case, but I don't.  These rails will still provide a sturdy mount
for the Cheapo mounting plate, and require very little additional work.
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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 10:40:45 am »
Sure didn't mean for you to go out of your way for explaining the mounting choice, but thanks! Good job on the illumination, surely you've
enhanced your visibility 10 fold.. And thanks for the step by step, it helps us 'boxed in' folks some maintenance/farkling entertainment!

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Re: Considering a Top Case +
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2013, 12:21:52 pm »
Sure didn't mean for you to go out of your way for explaining the mounting choice, but thanks! Good job on the illumination, surely you've
enhanced your visibility 10 fold.. And thanks for the step by step, it helps us 'boxed in' folks some maintenance/farkling entertainment!

Not too far outta the way.  I had the pictures taken already... just didn't post 'em.  ;)
It's posts like this that have inspired me to do lots of different projects, just thought I'd 'give back' a little.
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