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GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« on: May 15, 2011, 05:01:41 pm »
Had these for a good month now. Took me two weeks to get around to installing, and another two weeks to post. Have not been our at night yet to get pics off the difference in lighting pattern, but it looks better that I can tell when I have had them on.

I used to have both my Hella FF50's and the LED Running Lights mounted on the Tip Over Bars, with the light mounts that Murph has for it. Now I have the FF50's on the GBYII Light Mounts, and left the DRL's on the tip over bars. For the DRL's the tip over bars get them down lower and out wider, allowing for a nice triangle pattern with the headlight. They have always look good there and I kept them there. For the FF50's I really wanted them higher and further forward so they did not have glare in the mirrors, and shine better down the road. For driving lights the higher the better, in terms of aiming down the road.  I considered mounting both lights at the GBYII mounts, but having the DRL's underneath interferes with getting to the fairing screws. With only the one set you can easily unplug the lights and remove the screws, removing the bracket and the light mounting should stay in place. No need to mess with the adjustments. This is something that was always nice about the tip over bars, was I could remove the bars and not dismount the lights. Aiming and all that stayed in place.

When I first mounted the FF50's long time ago, I really wanted the GBYII light mounts. I like that idea. But all there was available was a template so you could make them yourself. No one seemed to want to make them for those of us with no fabrication and powder coating skills. Over time I have observed COG  member Snarf making some nice Block Off Plates and other items for sale. I decided to contact him, send him the template for the GBYII light mounts and see if he would make me a set.

Here is the finished product.
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6271.JPG

A pic from the side showing both lights
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6280.JPG

And one from the front
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6276.JPG


I am pleased with how this came out.  I will get out some evening when the weather is nice and try to get some pics of the lighting, in the same position as my old pics so I have a somewhat close comparison.  So a big thanks from me to Snarf for making these for me.  And one final note I believe the original idea for these and the template came from COG member Guy Young  and the reason these were originally called GBYII light mounts.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 12:38:07 am »
Had these for a good month now. Took me two weeks to get around to installing, and another two weeks to post. Have not been our at night yet to get pics off the difference in lighting pattern, but it looks better that I can tell when I have had them on.

I used to have both my Hella FF50's and the LED Running Lights mounted on the Tip Over Bars, with the light mounts that Murph has for it. Now I have the FF50's on the GBYII Light Mounts, and left the DRL's on the tip over bars. For the DRL's the tip over bars get them down lower and out wider, allowing for a nice triangle pattern with the headlight. They have always look good there and I kept them there. For the FF50's I really wanted them higher and further forward so they did not have glare in the mirrors, and shine better down the road. For driving lights the higher the better, in terms of aiming down the road.  I considered mounting both lights at the GBYII mounts, but having the DRL's underneath interferes with getting to the fairing screws. With only the one set you can easily unplug the lights and remove the screws, removing the bracket and the light mounting should stay in place. No need to mess with the adjustments. This is something that was always nice about the tip over bars, was I could remove the bars and not dismount the lights. Aiming and all that stayed in place.

When I first mounted the FF50's long time ago, I really wanted the GBYII light mounts. I like that idea. But all there was available was a template so you could make them yourself. No one seemed to want to make them for those of us with no fabrication and powder coating skills. Over time I have observed COG  member Snarf making some nice Block Off Plates and other items for sale. I decided to contact him, send him the template for the GBYII light mounts and see if he would make me a set.

Here is the finished product.
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6271.JPG

A pic from the side showing both lights
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6280.JPG

And one from the front
http://home.comcast.net/~slybones/Concours/images/IMGP6276.JPG


I am pleased with how this came out.  I will get out some evening when the weather is nice and try to get some pics of the lighting, in the same position as my old pics so I have a somewhat close comparison.  So a big thanks from me to Snarf for making these for me.  And one final note I believe the original idea for these and the template came from COG member Guy Young  and the reason these were originally called GBYII light mounts.



so did Guy approve ???







I have to comment here, as I made some a lonnnng time ago, from alternative materials...
after just looking at his, but I would never have made and transferred them to anyone because that just ain't right.

Other than using Guy's name here in the thread, has anyone contacted Guy, and asked if they COULD manufacture, and sell a part, designed by him, and even though he had this on HIS website, years ago (been gone well over a year, maybe even 2 years) Gotten HIS permission to use HIS template, and produce a saleable item?

I say this with earnest, seeing as he is my best friend, and a co-worker of mine, and also my introduction to COG....I owe him that respect....

sooooo, with those things out of the way, am I out of line asking this?

Please, if permission was not granted for production and distributon of his design, I have to ask that you contact him....he's an engineer as I am, (although hes an electrical engineer..), and as I see it, there should be compesation to him, moreso than just using his name.... for criminy sakes, there wasn't even an obligatory "thank you GBYII for your idea" given here.....you thanked Snarf...what about Guy????? ::) ::)

just so you understand, in case you have'nt seen his 1000 postings about his new garage/shop/retirement project, it appears he intends to leave me working at my day job in the near future, and retire, and do what he wants to do most...work for himself....: and this just might include manufacturing his parts, kinda like the Centerstand Assist lever attachment he made years ago, that somone decided to market and sell (not to be confused with the Blind Melon Chittlin' trinket), which I believe provoked him to break all links with his massive tech libraries....hint hint, hint......now you know why you can't find his stuff anymore.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 10:22:39 am »
Well i feel bad about this.  Anyone that knows me or has dealt with me knows that i would never blatantly take someone's ideas.  I had never seen these brackets before and when talking with Sly it sounded as though nobody was making them and a template for them was readily available on line.  I apologize if I offended anyone, that is not my style. 
I wouldn't even start making highway pegs until Jimmy Miller stopped production.  And they arent even remotely the same. 
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 01:31:27 pm »
Chris, I fully understand your train of thought leading to your makeing a set for someone, but as I suggested, it would be more fitting to contact Guy, and make arrangements with him, seeing as it was his design. He may wish to bless production, and even ask that you donate a mini% to something as a "fee", or he may not, but it's only fair and proper....just speak with him.
Not doing so may be a bit rude.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 02:37:44 pm »
For one who said they were in production and distribution, for sale and attached a price to them?

I said that I have always wanted a set. And that only the template was ever made available. You have to make them yourself ( which many COG members have over the years). I felt I did not have the fab skills to make a set, and observed a fellow COG member who did, and asked it he would make me a set. -- No where did I advertise these as for sale.

As for the design or template,  that has been made publicly available on the COG forum over the years. Many COG members have made them.  From that point of view there is nothing that is stolen from anyone. That ship sailed years ago.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 04:26:11 pm »
GBYII, if you go buy the forum name connieklr; I sent you a pm.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 11:39:55 pm »
GBYII, if you go buy the forum name connieklr; I sent you a pm.

I do, and received your note.  No apologies necessary.

When I posted the template on my site a number of years ago, in effect, they were put in the Public Domain. If someone wanted to make them for themselves, so be it. Ditto that if someone wanted to make a buck making them for others. No royality; no strings attached.

Well, perhaps one minor thing. Buy me a beer the next time we meet. I'm a cheap date.   :D

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 11:09:44 am »
GBYII, if you go buy the forum name connieklr; I sent you a pm.

I do, and received your note.  No apologies necessary.

When I posted the template on my site a number of years ago, in effect, they were put in the Public Domain. If someone wanted to make them for themselves, so be it. Ditto that if someone wanted to make a buck making them for others. No royality; no strings attached.
 8) I'll buy ya two :party0036:
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:27:42 pm »
MOB said: "which I believe provoked him to break all links with his massive tech libraries...."

The links were broken, and my storage area gone, when I changed ISP's from Earthlink to Verizon. I just couldn't find the time at the time, or motivation, to reassemble all that stuff. May do it one day, but not "tomorrow."
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 01:19:24 pm »
GBYII, if you go buy the forum name connieklr; I sent you a pm.

I do, and received your note.  No apologies necessary.

When I posted the template on my site a number of years ago, in effect, they were put in the Public Domain. If someone wanted to make them for themselves, so be it. Ditto that if someone wanted to make a buck making them for others. No royality; no strings attached.

This is why I stay in COG.... 8)  Good on You Guy

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 03:32:47 pm »
MOB said: "which I believe provoked him to break all links with his massive tech libraries...."

The links were broken, and my storage area gone, when I changed ISP's from Earthlink to Verizon. I just couldn't find the time at the time, or motivation, to reassemble all that stuff. May do it one day, but not "tomorrow."

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 03:45:36 pm »
Once again MOB gets it wrong...
Those templateswere offered free wayyy back in 2000 or so because I contemplated making a set when I had my '99. As has been stated, no one planned on mass-producing them.  Defending a friend is great, but how about some reading comprehension before you go off on a tangent like that?  This isn't the first, not I think the last, time wqe'll see him rant :P

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2011, 03:55:54 pm »
Let's all chill...
No harm, no foul, no ambulance and all that.  No one intended to injure anyone and no injury was done so we're all good now.  It's also good to know that Guy is fine with folks still using that template.  I used a variation of it maybe five years ago or so for my old 98.  THey worked great until I hit my first deer and THAT was the only part that got ripped off the bike. LOL
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2011, 07:02:25 pm »
Once again MOB gets it wrong...
Those templateswere offered free wayyy back in 2000 or so because I contemplated making a set when I had my '99. As has been stated, no one planned on mass-producing them.  Defending a friend is great, but how about some reading comprehension before you go off on a tangent like that?  This isn't the first, not I think the last, time wqe'll see him rant :P

Bruce, take a hike.
I read fine, and there was nothing to "comprehend" from the original post other than Chris made parts for someone...
I clearly in my photos, showed a version I made for myself also...so what?
that stuff has been off the net for over 6 years i.i.r.c.
I sit next to Guy everyday, 5 days a week.
We talk.
You are not privey to every conversation we have.
 Including the ones on peoples attitudes. Mine included.
It may have been coincidence, but Guy removed his data 2 days after I brought up that someone was manufacturing and selling his "shared design" for his centerstand assist device, which I will say at the time, he was visibly p/o'd....I was standing there, you were not.

you are being a typical "pile-on" hater, just because you don't really know doo-doo about this subject.
I ASKED HIM NICELY (the word Please was used clearly)  TO CONTACT GUY, HE DID (ALONG WITH A SIDE CONVERSATION TO ME) BUTT OUT OF IT OK????
it's over, Guy was not p/o'd, end of subject.
and cram your razzberry smiley where the sun don't shine.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 07:19:01 pm »
Gee I'm real sorry MOB.  I guess you put me in my place!  Can we be friends now? :-*

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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 07:27:12 pm »
Gee I'm real sorry MOB.  I guess you put me in my place!  Can we be friends now? :-*

sure, no problem. Have a beer on me...it's almost 4:30. :rotflmao:

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2011, 07:43:15 pm »
Wish I was in your time zone...45 more minutes then the 85 mile commute..... :beer:

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2012, 01:52:31 pm »









I've been unsuccessful in trying to buy brackets to mount my LED driving lights so it looks like I'm going to have to try and make some.  I bought a piece of angle iron to try and copy what Man of Blues did above.  Cutting that stuff with a rotary tool is slow going.  And now that I've taken another look at the above pictures I'm afraid that I bought too narrow a piece of angle iron for the lights to fit without rubbing on the fairing. :-[  I'll have to do a trial fitting before I waste any more time trying to cut the angle iron with my rotary tool. 

It is a shame that Murphs' Bug Eye Light Mounts are so expensive, not to mention a violation of the vehicle code in many places, because I like the look. 



But I'm planning on using my lights often so I might attract too much of the wrong type of attention with them mounted that high.
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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2012, 03:24:09 pm »
This was my version of the GBYII mounts.  I used the front screw and then the bracket went forward and was form fitted around the front of the fairing to stabilize it.  It had a little foam under it to keep it from scratching.  Worked great until I hit a deer and knocked the right one off. 

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 07:41:21 pm »
So...anyone still have links to plans on these types of mounts?  I'm to the point of wanting to make them myself. (Snarf has been too busy with life to make them)

All the pics in the thread are dead (Webshots).  I seem to recall some hole based angle iron and a curve.  But it's been a few years.

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2013, 06:32:41 pm »
So...anyone still have links to plans on these types of mounts?  I'm to the point of wanting to make them myself. (Snarf has been too busy with life to make them)

All the pics in the thread are dead (Webshots).  I seem to recall some hole based angle iron and a curve.  But it's been a few years.

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2013, 06:37:22 pm »
So...anyone still have links to plans on these types of mounts?  I'm to the point of wanting to make them myself. (Snarf has been too busy with life to make them)

All the pics in the thread are dead (Webshots).  I seem to recall some hole based angle iron and a curve.  But it's been a few years.

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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2013, 07:39:47 pm »
OK. Here's the gist.
Run down to your local hardware store and grab a couple of corner braces.  They look like little metal "L"s and are shiny silver... kinda like this.


Now make that bend at the arrow so it looks like this.



Now look at your Connie's side panel and note the mounting holes.  You can drill your own or use existing.  GBY used existing IIRC.  Mine used only the front hole.  But this is trying to remember his deal.  Now you realized the brackets you bought were too small... so it's back to the hardware store for bigger ones.






I'm probably making it look way too hard.  It is a twenty minute build.
Two brackets.
Two bends.
Drill a hole or four.
Grind Corners round if desired.
Paint to suit or leave chrome if you don't grind. (Cut area will rust unless stainless brackets are used).

Mine used the front hole and simply bent around the front bend of the panel to hold in place and were dipped in Black Plasti-Dip to protect the paint and give a matching "no chrome" look.  Lots of ways to skin this cat, but this is one and I hope that this is something like the old GBY2 bracket.  Using the bracket's existing holes requires drilling a hole in the plastic for the rearward screw/bolt.  Or you can change the height of the bracket by NOT using these existing bolts and simply drilling your own to get what you want.  Fine tuning of the light beam can be accomplished by careful bending once things are assembled and fitted.  DO NOT PRY AGAINST THE PLASTIC TO ADJUST OR FINE TUNE.

IF I HAVE TOTALLY MISREPRESENTED THE GBYII BRACKET, THEN I"M SORRY GUY. AND HERE'S YET ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT THAT IS SOMEONE'S IDEA, SOMEWHERE.
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2013, 08:28:38 pm »
Guy made his out of 16 ga aluminum, but when I made mine i had some "hol-ee" metal angle sitting in my garage...
I cut the pieces using a sawzall, but a hacksaw would work...file / belt sander the edges...viola.....and a little paint.
I used strips of bike innertube as a protective buffer.










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Re: GBYII Light Mounts by Snarf
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2013, 04:34:08 am »
Those were the exact pics I was looking for (which are now missing earlier in this thread, darn webshots).  Thanks MOB!

And Rev, thanks for that idea as well.  For some reason it took me reading it two different days to understand it.  I might try both ideas :)

Dunno whatever happened to Snarf still making stuff.  Looks like a lot of people have been asking about the block off plates, these light mounts and the highway pegs.  I paid for mounts and plates last July.  Got the plates but never the mounts.  Keep hoping one day his family drama and wreck recovery will make it so he can start up again.
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