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GPS mounting question
« on: September 19, 2013, 03:29:45 pm »
I picked up a Garmin Nuvi GPS with minimal expenditure (cheap).
Now I ponder the mounting possibilities. 

Question:  Is there just as much vibration at the top of the triple tree (Ignition cover)
as there is out further on the bars, say at the reservoir?  Is it the same?  Worse?

I've come up with a creative (to me) solution for mounting the GPS there, the  other
mounting places I've pondered would be on the windshield, or top of the dash. 

It seems the dash is the least effected by vibes... and I'm not too crazy about a suction cup
to the windshield, so the top of the triple tree, or the dash are my choices at the moment.

Is one better than the other?

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2013, 04:06:33 pm »
Martin - there are two types of vibration you need to consider... high amplitude, low frequency (high impact shock), and low amplitude, high frequency (engine buzz). The dash area is susceptible to the former (shock), whereas the bars are will transmit the second (buzz).  The Nuvi series is not designed to withstand either, that's one of the reasons the Zumo line is much more expensive.

That said, most of us had had very good results with a Nuvi mounted to the top of the triple tree or even the on the handlebar contol clamp. A few members have hard mounted it to the top of the dash with good results, butt...  although there's no real hard data on failures, I think people using the dash mount may have had a slightly higher rate of failure, and most of those were related to power cord or battery issues.

I had a Street Pilot III for many years mounted on a Gadget Guy triple tree mount, later replaced with a Nuvi on the same mount. Both worked fine as the hi-freq buzz is lower in that location than at the handlebars.

The one thing I would recommend is mounting your GPS as high as possible. Getting it too low in relation to your line of sight takes your eyes off the road too long when looking at it. After giving my Gadget Guy mount to a friend in Germany who admired it, I have been playing with a RAM Mount on the handlebar with good results so far (a couple thousand miles on a C10 and C14).
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 04:28:43 pm »
I made a stem mount with a 1/4-20 female Ram ball and
1/4" threaded rod through the stearing stem.
Addition of a Ram arm, adapter and cradle completed
the install.
Vibration isn't bad. Ram mounts inherently allow
a little movement.

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 04:55:21 pm »
Here are a couple of shots of the Ram mount I used. Sorry it isn't a better shot. If your interested I would be glad to grab a few more close-up shots. Just give me a holler.



Here's a link to it… http://www.rammount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid/082065077045066045051048057045049085/Default.aspx


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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 05:40:29 pm »
Great input Guys!  This is just what I'm looking for.

I have had my iPhone on a ball mount set up similar to
Mr Orange's pictures.  It works well, and so I'm trying to
keep that set-up as is. 

JP:  My concerns with mounting at the triple tree is primarily
visibility, like you've mentioned, far out of line of sight, and if
raised up, the view of my gauge cluster is being compromised,
as well as unfettered access to the ignition switch.

As far as visual aesthetics and line of sight are concerned, I'm
leaning towards a top of dash mount, and I think.....

I've.... got.... a.... plan....   :-\

Using a piece of sheet lexan that previously kept our (now dearly departed)
high energy vicious attack miniature poodle from going through the screen door,
I'm making a visor for the Nuvi.  Now Instead of using Garmin's flimsy ball mount,
I am going to try and concoct a mount that's affixed to the visor (rather than the GPS).

I'm pretty sure I can put a rubber bushing(s) 'tween the visor and the base plate to ease
some of 'shock and awwww crap' of bumps in the road.  Some 3M velcro should hold the GPS
to the visor back plate....  I just have to work out affixing the assembly to the bike itself.

At least I have a direction now!  working out the particulars is the fun part!   ;)

EDIT TO ADD:

RAM Mount has my solution:



This clamp set up will clamp onto the lip of the Madstad Base (1/4 in. thick), and keep my dash top
free from drilling or the like.  The bottom of the visor unit can even rest on the dash for added
support.  Ok.... back to work.  I'll post pictures as this project progresses. :great:

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 12:41:16 am »
Here's the first stages of the visor...  Some lexan, some 2 part epoxy, and
a bit of creative clamping, and I've ended up with this (sanded/scuffed for paint):



And here's a picture of the GPS in the visor...



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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2013, 01:02:59 am »
So you have a Madstad windshield. I had one on my Spyder and here is how I mounted things on it. I'll get you a link to the actual RAM part later after I get to work.





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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 01:14:45 am »
My first prototype is similar to that Marty. If you spray the inside surface, it gives the appearance of black plastic.
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 01:25:53 am »
No need Mr Orange, but appreciate your help.  I'm going with this RAM Mount:



Clamps over the top over the Madstad base... no drilling, easy to remove... 
When I was sizing it all up, the base of the visor will rest on the dash.

My next concern is affixing the GPS to the visor.  May be as easy as some 3M Velcro.
Still a ways off for that... time to figger.

I'm probably going to paint the whole thing Randy.  Just to be different.  :dance:
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 02:45:47 am »
Martin - you didn't say what Nuvi you have, but I have a RAM Nuvi mount that bolts to the diamond base.

Don't use Velcro, it's not strong enough. If you want to go that route, use 3M Dual Lock, it has mushroom shaped heads on both halves and has to be pried apart.

I have a clamp like that mounting a Catz driving lamp to the lower cross bar of the upper fairing mount. It's been there since '96. But that was years before RAM came up with their version.

(edit) Hmmm... thinking about it, you may need to add some rubber strips, like from an inner tube, to prevent slipping.
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 04:24:42 am »
McFly, are you going to have that shield pointing toward you when riding?

Looks a little dangerous to me.

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2013, 04:55:23 am »
My tank bag has a clear pocket thats waterproof. It works fine in there. Of course I have to have the tank bag to use my nuvi 40. I don't mind. Someday I will be less lazy and mount the thing like your doing.

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2013, 10:10:02 am »
My tank bag has a clear pocket thats waterproof. It works fine in there. Of course I have to have the tank bag to use my nuvi 40. I don't mind. Someday I will be less lazy and mount the thing like your doing.

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I have the same type of pocket on my tank bag.  Problem is, the heat gets locked in, and the
equipment overheats.  I'd also like the GPS up higher so it's not so far out of plain sight.
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 09:13:03 pm »
Here in western Washington we can use the rain to keep the garmin cool even in the map holder on the tank bag. Thanks  I will have to do something by July. Must not have needed it on those few hot days we have.  Maybe some icecubes in the camelback might help. Seeing those pictures though I do like the appearance of all those gadgets and higher up would be nice.

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 09:32:09 pm »
Down in Sunny Florida the equipment doesn't fair well in the tank bag...  I'm just waiting on the
Ram Mount, and I'll have a prototype to test out on a commute or two.  So far so good.  Working
out access to the power button which is inconveniently positioned on TOP of the GPS.  The GPS
does allow me to flip the screen.... but there's no challenge in that. 

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2013, 09:59:34 pm »
Looks good. Some easy access I would even use mine more often. Not going for the voice command synced to the communication devise. Tecnology accelerated faster than the life of the electronics. Use the old stuff up first is my way.

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2013, 10:20:31 pm »
I just ordered up this here one, less than $20. We will see how it works out.

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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2013, 12:01:21 am »
McFly, are you going to have that shield pointing toward you when riding?

Looks a little dangerous to me.

FWIW,  -Jeff


Jeff, If I go head first over the bars, I've got a lot more to worry about.  The visor will set back
from the edge of the dash, and has a clamp on mount that will certainly give way to my fat @$$
flyin' through it!  I'm more worried about the Madstad system impaling me to be honest.

I've rounded the edges a bit..... does that help?    Appreciate the concern though.   :beerchug:

Martin - you didn't say what Nuvi you have, but I have a RAM Nuvi mount that bolts to the diamond base.

Don't use Velcro, it's not strong enough. If you want to go that route, use 3M Dual Lock, it has mushroom shaped heads on both halves and has to be pried apart.

I have a clamp like that mounting a Catz driving lamp to the lower cross bar of the upper fairing mount. It's been there since '96. But that was years before RAM came up with their version.

(edit) Hmmm... thinking about it, you may need to add some rubber strips, like from an inner tube, to prevent slipping.


JP, it's a Nuvi 2595LMT...  Real slim, big screen for my aging eyes.  Got it on the cheap off a buddy...  AS FOR THE RAM BASE...
RAM Mounts has just made a slimmer mounting base for the 2595, and won't ship til November, the old one is big and bulky.
Using all RAM equipment was my 1st choice, but they're not going to Barber in a few weeks... I am.

I put some black paint on the visor to see if it actually makes the screen viewable in direct sunlight.  aaand.. It does.
I can cut a bottom shelf  with a lip to hold the bottom of the GPS but I'm trying to avoid that, so it's easier to get in and out
of the visor.



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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2013, 12:54:00 am »
At this rate we are going to look like twins Marty! Same bike, same fandangled gps enclosure...Except if we stand too close...then we may be mistaken for Wren and Stimpy. 
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2013, 01:29:44 am »
At this rate we are going to look like twins Marty! Same bike, same fandangled gps enclosure...Except if we stand too close...then we may be mistaken for Wren and Stimpy.

To make it reaally scary, I ordered the "Obnoxiously fettered dirt road map" upgrade on the GPS...  BTW, I got my gauges,
but don't have all the plumbing.  Might need to stop at Graingers.  Hoping to have it set up for Barber... we'll see.


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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2013, 10:09:10 pm »
Careful Marty...I may swap in a 21 inch front and some dual sport tires. Have me a fat dual sport for next years off road extravaganza!
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2013, 10:20:49 pm »
I just ordered up this here one, less than $20. We will see how it works out.




I tried the same mount to the mirror post on a GoPro.... didn't work too well for me
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2013, 09:10:54 pm »
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I tried the same mount to the mirror post on a GoPro.... didn't work too well for me

Would you care to elaborate, please?
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2013, 01:11:49 am »
I attached what looks like a similar mount onto the right mirror post under the RAM ball (used to hold the mount in place) that I already had on the bike for the iPod.   I then mounted the GoPro to the end of the mount.  It may be a different setup, but looks similar

http://www.amazon.com/ME-MMDC-DCGO-Motorcycle-digital-Recorder/dp/B00B9H3ETM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1380161190&sr=8-1&keywords=gopro motorcycle mirror mount

I went to take a video and it shook so bad, I could hardly watch it.  (I might be able to upload it to YouTube if you are interested) My concern would be that you wouldn't be able to see/read the GPS screen as much as it was vibrating... I had the camera out as far and high as she would go.  I wanted the instrument cluster as well as a good view of the road in the frame.

I would be interested to hear how your install went, took longer to find the crecent wrench for the RAM ball than to get the thing put on the bike.

Still trying to find a good place to mount the GoPro (so far helmet has worked best for me), also didn't try it on the KLR, but I will need to figure out how to get the ZUMO on there eventually too.

By the way, not sure if this is one of the guys on here, but this is my inspiration for the GoPro!  (It looks like he is helmet mounted from video).  I tend to look around a lot, and it gets kind of distracting.
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Re: GPS mounting question
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2013, 01:56:47 am »
Thanks for the info, mine arrived today. I'll try mounting it with as little extension as possible and see how it goes.
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