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Knees
« on: October 16, 2012, 10:05:37 pm »
This has probably already been covered to some degree but I'm asking anyhow. I just got back from (week ago) a 6300 mile ride. A great trip but my knees are wrecked. They have some age on them along with lots of use and some abuse.

Well, I'm now looking at options to save whats left of them. I'm looking at Murf's knee savers as well as Snarf's highway pegs. I might even consider both eventually but money is an option so one at a time. I hadn't noticed much knee problem previously but my previous longest rides were up to the Blueridge Parkway and back for a total of 2500 or so. The 6300 in two weeks killed me. Oddly, my "good" knee hurts worse than my no cartilage knee.

I'm about 6' tall and use the connie mostly for highway as I usually use my DR around town. So which option do y'all think I should try first. Anybody tried both options. The knee savers certainly look better IMHO. I've even considered the more costly tipovers with pegs option but I'm really not wild about that look.

Your humble opinions welcome, other ones too.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2012, 10:54:45 pm »
HMMM, I wonder WHY someone would name a product "kneesavers"... I'm gonna have to think on that abit... ???  Steve
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Re: Knees
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 11:05:31 pm »
Ok, smart a** ::), I'm slow but I didn't miss that. I'm sure they help but how much. Would I be better off going with the highway pegs? When I said my knees were wrecked by the time I got home I wasn't exaggerating. A week later and I'm 2/3 recovered at best. I even had trouble getting into my old 1990 Toy Camry.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2012, 12:00:25 am »
My 02 Connie came with foot peg lowering brackets already installed but I still needed highway pegs to make long road trips more tolerable and enjoyable.  I'm only 5'9" so I understand how taller folks can have problems with knee pain.  In June this year,  I completed a 6500 mile trip in 16 days and had a great time - no knee pain.   Before the trip, I installed tip over bars with highway pegs and a cruise control - IMHO $ well spent. 

If I could only do one or the other, I would go with the highway pegs. Being able to stretch your legs would help relieve the pressure on your knees. 

 

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Re: Knees
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2012, 12:17:30 am »
Hi;I'm 6'2 and just bought my new to me 01 concours in june and that was the first thing I did was get the lowering pegs from murph's.They helped alot;But I also just purchased a set of highway pegs off ebay for $67.00 in like new cond.I haven't put them on yet but sure they will give some extra relief when going long distances I hope.By the way; The lowering pegs from murph's are kind of sloppy fitting as is ( wobbly) ??? which doesn't hurt anything but I spent some extra time and did some filing and shimming with washers to take up the slack and now they fit like stock. Tony ;)
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Re: Knees
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2012, 12:51:40 am »
Get some highway pegs for sure , whatever kind , I have the tipover bars but whatever suits you . Great for cooling off in the summer too .
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Re: Knees
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2012, 01:06:04 am »
 :sign0144: Hi again; I didn't mean to say anything negative about murph's in my previous comment about the lowering pegs. He even knows about the loose fit and admits it. Murph's is a GREAT business and an asset to us connie owners.I've purchased my share of products from him and am not done yet.It's great to have these kind of businesses that cater to older discontinued motorcycles with better aftermarket parts etc. Tony :great:
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Re: Knees
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2012, 01:18:06 am »
I did a 7400 mile trip this summer and had an issue with my right knee (it's still recovering a bit) - since installed Murph's product and it's great!  Very similar to my old R100RT, wish I had known before the trip what a difference these make.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2012, 02:11:02 am »
Ok, smart a** ::)

  HEHE, guilty as charged >:D

  What nobody on this thread has mentioned (or perhaps knows) is that I invented the kneesavers and made a marketing agreement with Murph to sell them. In supreme shortsightedness (in retrospect) I never forsaw any further products, so having Murph sell them made the most sense to me. Gary has a great reputation which he earned honestly, And I've never re-thought my decision to work with him to get the kneesavers to market.
    I named them kneesavers because my right knee is demolished with a medial meniscus removed, a torn lateral ligament and damaged acl and has been for over 30 years. It didn't help that it was further injured in the 2007 crash that totaled my first connie. I can't run, I limp everywhere, and I'm always in pain. Without having found a way to lower the pegs, I simply can't ride a connie for more than 30 minutes without screaming in pain. I did over 3k on the trip to/ from the national this year, and almost never used my tipover bar-mounted highway pegs (yeah, I have those too). Ask the guys I ride with, I almost never use the highway pegs, though I do occasionally just hang one leg down for a few seconds here or there.
   As far as the kneesavers being "loose" they're designed that way, with dual articulation points so if the bike tips, they'll fold up and not break like stock pegs, or stockers on genmars would.
    IMO, being a BTDT guy, having had a connie for 7 years now and having a knee that's surely as bad as anyone's here, I feel the kneesavers are the best way to go. Think about it. You will have your feet down alot more than you will have them up. When you sit with your feet up on the highway bars your weight is heavily shifted to your butt / tailbone area, whereas with your feet down  more weight is borne on your hands, thighs and feet. when butts get sore, they don't get un-sore easily... something to think about... Steve
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Re: Knees
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2012, 02:53:01 am »
  Before Knee savers day long trips were painful. It really didn't dawn on me after I installed the Knee savers for a whole year that my knees didn't hurt anymore. When you're in pain you remember it. When you're comfy everthing is right with the world.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2012, 04:39:07 am »
The Kneesavers make a real difference...that's for sure...I've had them on my bike for over a year...and, they just seem natural now...when I sit on a C10 with stock pegs, I feel all cramped up...like on a sport bike...that being said...Snarf's highway pegs are nice to stretch my legs on longer rides...and, when I recently earned my CDA, they acted as an outrigger...and the only damage from my stationary drop was scratches on the end of the highway bar itself...no plastic even came close to the gravel! 

I would probably go for Snarf's highway pegs first...because you can stretch your legs out as often as you need to...but...I would also add Kneesavers when I had the dough...both make long rides more comfortable...

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Re: Knees
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 10:11:29 am »
+1 on the knee savers. I would get them first and do the pegs later. My .02.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 12:23:09 pm »
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Murf's knee savers as well as Snarf's highway pegs

I have both.  The kneesavers came first, then the highway bars.

The kneesavers helped with my bad right knee and also improved how my backside interfaces with the seat (Corbin) - making that better too.  When I hop on a stock C10 now I feel like my legs are doubled up in a squat position.

The highway bars help even further to stretch out those legs and knees.

My feet spend most of the time on the pegs, so if you had to choose (money is always anb object isn't it?) I'ld do those first.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 01:24:57 pm »
I also have both...    Kneesavers are worth twice what you pay!   I rode a stock connie again after having the kneesavers on mine, and it was incredibly unconfortable for me.  For me, it will most likey not even use the highway pegs in less than 50 mile trips (or 20 miles on the mindless slab).

In retrospect, I think the tip-over bars are a good way to go.  I have not only spend more money in aux-light mount brackets than the bars cost, The added insurance of the protection can not be ignored.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 02:42:17 pm »
To paraphrase an old line, "Murph's Kneesavers cost too much, but they're worth it."   ;D

I have the Kneesavers, but I don't have highway pegs on my tipover bars.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 03:57:10 pm »
Okay, here's a question that is slightly off topic, but really not. I ordered a set of Kneesavers a few days ago and oddly enough Murph didn't do his instant shipping thing, so I called. Got voicemail. I emailed which usually gets a quick response. Nope.

Question: Has anyone talked to Murph or someone there since the 15th and is everything okay? I'm in no huge hurry, but no response, no ship, not nothing is not Murph's MO.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 05:13:37 pm »
Ordered Murf's plug caps and wires yesterday. Got notification of processing same day. Got notification of shipping this morning the 17th. Very prompt as usual.

He's not much for answering his phone which is somewhat irritating for those of us that prefer to order from a person, even if just on the phone, rather than an internet page.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2012, 05:35:20 pm »
Do both asap in my opinion.   The peg lowering helps all the time and the hwy pegs give you a way to change position if a knee starts to hurt.  Not to mention jetting cooler air up you on a hot day.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2012, 06:51:33 pm »
I use a patella band...You can get them at most sports shows.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2012, 07:18:54 pm »
Thanks bldonk. Just busy I guess.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2012, 08:12:33 pm »
I have both, and find the highway pegs just a bit uncomfortable to use.  They tend to jam the inside of my knee into the fairing.

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Re: Knees
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2012, 08:21:57 pm »
I'M thinking Ill get some kneesavers . Don't have much knee pain now but those might prevent future trouble .
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2012, 10:04:36 pm »
Found Murph, got mine ordered (again). The mixup was mine fault. I accidentally checked the wrong box. Oops.
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Re: Knees
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2012, 02:25:52 am »
Funny how differant areas of the body respond to various riding positions. For me with bad hips, well, now good hips after two total replacements, I find the Connie riding position very comfortable. Actually more leg extension as compared to my R1200ST that has you much more folded up leg wise. I would not want the Connie pegs any lower or more forward, no thanks. Matter of fact the more folded my legs the more comfortable for me. Well, other than the total Ducati sport bike clip-on posture. It is the most relaxed or extended legs cruiser position that I can't take. And for me the more extended and stretched I am relative to peg vs. center of gravity to the bike, the less feel or control I have over the machine. I just don't see how one has absolute control of the bike when you are leg forward, sprawled out with your feet at nearly tank level, no thanks. I'll take Sport TOURING at the least and SPORT Touring at best, any time. Arkansas Ozarks here we come this weekend for some beautiful Fall follage!

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Re: Knees
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2012, 03:48:26 am »
Well I appreciate all of the responses prior to the thread getting moved to obscurity. It seems the consensus is that I should get the knee savers 1st, although the recommendation wasn't unanimous. I try not to be one that ignores advice, especially solicited advice, so Knee savers it is.
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