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Offline Larry Killebrew OK

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« on: April 26, 2009, 09:24:00 pm »
Saw a goldwing last night on Oklahoma I-40 that had very tasteful accent lighting, the lights appeared to be some sort of fiber optic or LED.     The thing that stood out to me is how visible he was at dusk. I have seen bikes with ground effect, This guy did a great job.     Got me to thinking have any of you done that with your C-10's???  
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 04:38:00 pm »
I have wanted some led lights pointing to the ground to make it look like I am floating on a cloud but never done it.  From what I have seen this group is not to heavy into the bling.  I bet you can find someone to install them for you at your local hog rally though. :)  ----------------------------------  South Central Area Director  Email scad@cog-online.org    <p align="left">My Photos<br
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 04:56:00 pm »
Lots of talk about reflective decals and such, but very little about accent lighting. I'm a big fan of LEDs though, low power consumption, imperceptible heat and 20 year life span. I think it's a great idea to start up some threads on it if we have any guys with experience (there always seems to be one, regardless of what it is, who has been doing it for years. :))     ::EDIT:: I should also mention that there are a LOT of prebuilt lighting kits for Goldwings, so what you saw may have been just soemthing he ordered off the Internet and plugged in.      
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 09:13:00 pm »
WOW!!!  I just logged on to start a discussion about LED's.  I just ordered a kit from Florida-Joe and I am looking to install them real soon.  I'm looking forward to the end result but not the installation.  I am worried about properly placing the LED's and having them able to be disconnected when the sections of plastic are removed.  On a side note Joe was the most reasonable priced kits around that I saw and when I had one fail during check out he replaced it and also added a couple more for free.  If anyone has any thoughts or has done this please post with hints and or pictures that would help.  I will post soon if I'm the Guinna pig.  

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2009, 07:47:00 pm »
Be werry of blue and red. I have heard of peaple getting tickets in there tuner cars with blue lights.  check your local laws.   I thought a red glow from the connies gills would be cool.  
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 11:35:00 am »
Take a look at the law, but understand the intent. They're trying to keep people from impersonating emergency services. Blue and Red lights in many circumstances could cause that confusion, but in others would not. LED's are available in a LOT of colors these days so there are choices.  
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 03:57:00 pm »
Definately look at the laws, not only in your state but any state you plan on riding into.  I remember that in SC there used to be a law that restricted red lights to rear view only and amber on the front and sides.  So localities even have restrictions on having LED/NEON running while a vehicle is motion.  Robert Elliott  Cornelia, GA  2006 C10  COG # 7598  CDA#0293
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 10:27:00 am »
Well I just got my LED's installed and they look great.  Just reading these post and I never thought that the BLUE that I bought would be a problem with the law.  I will definitely have to check the local laws before I hit the switch.  

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2009, 01:42:00 pm »
I contacted the MA state police and they said blue=police=ticket even if it's not flashing or oscillating.  At best it will give them a chance to stop you.  I guess I will just have to admire it while its parked, so much for riding on my cloud.  

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 02:17:00 pm »
Swap'em out for purple or something that's legal. Also, did you ask them if the lights weren't visible but just reflecting off of your wheels or engine for example?  
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 07:42:00 pm »
Did I tell you how much fun it was installing them(30 pairs of wires) the first time...LOL.  I did email the suppler stating that he may want to state that the buyer should check there local ans state laws before purchasing.  I also am considering replacing them with green. Did I tell you how much fun it was installing them(30 pairs of wires) the first time...LOL.    Yes I explained to them that is glows from underneath (I will try to post a picture when I can)and it doesn't flash or strobe or oscillate. I am also reading that it may not matter the color that you may not be able to have any color due to distracting other motorist.  Anyone notice those digital billboards?  I am now wondering why I don't see many Connie's with LED's.  I guess I'll be the '06 C10 parked at Ameriacade glowing blue :-( feeling blue.  
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 08:17:00 am »
LEOs tend to look at thing like this in very black and white (blue and red? :confuse:)perspectives. Also, "NO" is the easiest answer to give in this circumstance.  
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 10:47:00 am »
Yes the old 'let's ban them because they distract other motorists' scheme. Yet another in an endless line of legislative initiatives based purely on urban legend. No studies done, no facts presented no evidence anybody's ever even been distracted by them or that any ill effect resulted because they were. Shouldn't we also ban sports bras and bikini bottoms by this same logic? . The best example of this in recent history was the push to ban cell phones being used at gas pumps because of the risk that they'll ignite a fire. Problem with it is that there's no evidence that this has ever happened anywhere in the world, don't you think with 8 billion people in the world somebody somewhere would have started one of these fires if it was actually possible?     Our legislators need to realize a couple of things. First off, we have plenty of real problems, there's no need to make up problems to fix. Second, just because they have the power to write laws doesn't mean we NEED new ones.     Me personally, with'em already installed, I'd ride and see if I got pulled over for it. I'm betting you won't. I think motorcycles are looked at in a different light when it comes to safety, I certainly see Goldwings looking like Christmas Day riding around town all the time.  
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 04:25:00 pm »
Here's the law on blue lights in North Carolina;    (c)       It is unlawful for any person to possess a blue light or to install, activate, or operate a blue light in or on any vehicle in this State, except for a publicly owned vehicle used for law enforcement purposes or any other vehicle when used by law enforcement officers in the performance of their official duties. As used in this subsection, unless the context requires otherwise, "blue light" means any forward facing blue light installed on a vehicle after initial manufacture of the vehicle; or an operable blue light which:    (1)       Is not (i) being installed on, held in inventory for the purpose of being installed on, or held in inventory for the purpose of sale for installation on a vehicle on which it may be lawfully operated or (ii) installed on a vehicle which is used solely for the purpose of demonstrating the blue light for sale to law enforcement personnel;    (1a)     Is designed for use by an emergency vehicle, or is similar in appearance to a blue light designed for use by an emergency vehicle; and    (2)       Can be operated by use of the vehicle's battery, the vehicle's electrical system, or a dry cell battery.      Section 1a there pretty much makes it legal. I don't think there's any way that blue LED accent lights could be construed as being
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 07:52:00 am »
Now that they are installed I'm going to try to go with them and if I get stopped I will see what happens and make a discussion after seeing how much of a hassle it may or may not be.  Thanks for everyone's input  

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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 12:52:00 pm »
My friend tried that with his vehicle a couple years back, he had the led windshield washer lights (in blue).  The cop didn't mind giving him an h.t.a. ticket.  

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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2009, 01:26:00 pm »
Sure, the police are supposed to issue citations it's their job to enforce the law. It's not their job though to interpret the law, that's left to a judge. Having the windshield washer lights would be risky, forward facing blue light seems awful police-y to me. I'd look at it very differently if it were illuminating and reflecting off of the engine or the wheels for example.     Hey, that brings in the big question. Where are pics? We want to see them!  
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 03:00:00 pm »
This is with 60 LED's doesn't seem like much but it's a lot of wiring.        
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2009, 02:28:00 am »
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 Saw a goldwing last night on Oklahoma I-40 that had very tasteful accent lighting, the lights appeared to be some sort of fiber optic or LED.  
   It is NOT POSSIBLE to have "tasteful accent lighting" on any motorcycle.  It is just plain ghay.  Go all out; Do purple.  :)        
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2009, 08:18:00 am »
I like it... I really do... I am thinking my o3 may be getting some Christmas Tree lighting soon... Seeking to be seen.  LK  
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2009, 09:50:00 am »
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es the old 'let's ban them because they distract other motorists' scheme. Yet another in an endless line of legislative initiatives based purely on urban legend. No studies done, no facts presented no evidence anybody's ever even been distracted by them or that any ill effect resulted because they were. Shouldn't we also ban sports bras and bikini bottoms by this same logic? . The best example of this in recent history was the push to ban cell phones being used at gas pumps because of the risk that they'll ignite a fire. Problem with it is that there's no evidence that this has ever happened anywhere in the world, don't you think with 8 billion people in the world somebody somewhere would have started one of these fires if it was actually possible?    Our legislators need to realize a couple of things. First off, we have plenty of real problems, there's no need to make up problems to fix. Second, just because they have the power to write laws doesn't mean we NEED new ones.    Me personally, with'em already installed, I'd ride and see if I got pulled over for it. I'm betting you won't. I think motorcycles are looked at in a different light when it comes to safety, I certainly see Goldwings looking like Christmas Day riding around town all the time.    '06 C10  Brett Hatfield  AMA# 1019197  COG# 8229 (CDA# 0267)  
   Brett, years ago, in Los Angeles, there was a guy maned Caryl Chessman who used red lights to fool motorists into thinking he was a cop. He robbed, raped and killed several people there. I think he may be responsible for those prohibitions on using red and/or blue lights by the general public.     Frankly, I prefer such a law. God knows there  are enough crazies out there who would try the same thing.     Here's a Wiki entry on Chessman      
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2009, 12:19:00 pm »
As used in this subsection, unless the context requires otherwise, "blue light" means any forward facing blue light installed on a vehicle after initial manufacture of the vehicle; or an operable blue light which:    (1)       Is not (i) being installed on, held in inventory for the purpose of being installed on, or held in inventory for the purpose of sale for installation on a vehicle on which it may be lawfully operated or (ii) installed on a vehicle which is used solely for the purpose of demonstrating the blue light for sale to law enforcement personnel;        (2)       Can be operated by use of the vehicle's battery, the vehicle's electrical system, or a dry cell battery.    I think this one will cover everything else.  How can you make it light up without power?  
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2009, 01:46:00 pm »
Chemical lights will be exempt according to that entry.  
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2009, 04:16:00 pm »
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 This is with 60 LED's doesn't seem like much but it's a lot of wiring.    
   I'm guessing that you used 10 strips of 6 LEDs.  Where did you place the strip to light your front wheel?    Mike Aldea, COG-528  Charter Life AMA   Hawthorne, NJ    
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2009, 04:33:00 pm »
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 As used in this subsection, unless the context requires otherwise, "blue light" means any forward facing blue light installed on a vehicle after initial manufacture of the vehicle; or an operable blue light which:      (1)  Is not (i) being installed on, held in inventory for the purpose of being installed on, or held in inventory for the purpose of sale for installation on a vehicle on which it may be lawfully operated or (ii) installed on a vehicle which is used solely for the purpose of demonstrating the blue light for sale to law enforcement personnel;        (1a)  Is designed for use by an emergency vehicle, or is similar in appearance to a blue light designed for use by an emergency vehicle; and     (2)  Can be operated by use of the vehicle's battery, the vehicle's electrical system, or a dry cell battery.      I think this one will cover everything else.  How can you make it light up without power?      Later,          Charlie COG# 8048  
   I'm no lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.... but my interpretation of the statute is both (1A) and (2) have to apply for the light to be illegal.    I thought about doing something like this when I first got my C-10 back before 12 volts LEDs were available.  In those days you needed expensive neon lights or large incandescent light fixtures which convinced me it wasn't worth the effort.  But I'm reconsidering now that colored LED light clusters can be easily installed.    Mike Aldea, COG-528  Charter Life AMA   Hawthorne, NJ    
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