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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2013, 09:58:46 am »
Certainly correct Fred. I am more or less on the tall side myself, but very pleased to hear that you seem to have found the right set up to fit you Fred, could be Marty is right on the money for himself.

Lookin great Marty, looking forward to hearing your smile report :)
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2013, 10:34:11 pm »
FINALLY got out for a ride yesterday.  It's the dog-daze of summer here in Fla., and after
spending all day at work in the heat, getting on a two-wheeled heater in gear isn't easy for me to do.

I only took a quick ride, and first impressions are very good for wind protection.  I was hot...
found little joy in adjustment 'on the fly'.  The adjustment knobs, which were easy to operate
with gloves on, needed lotsa turnin' before the windscreen would adjust.  Height was extra fickle.
I put the blame of this frustration on being hot (and bothered).  Dropping the screen down and
back allows plenty of air flow on the helmet which is exactly what I needed.  I made it home!

Once home, and cooled off a bit, I got the hang of adjusting...  I did NOT want to go back out
in the sweltering heat to play with it more.  I'll strategically pick some riding time this weekend
to continue fiddling with it.  So far, I like what I've got.  A morning ride up to Daytona on I95
will help work out the kinks.

On a different note, I finally got to use the Big Bad Max air horn on a cager pushing me into a dividing wall.   >:D

The horn does its job quite well.
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2013, 02:39:23 am »
I may have misinterpreted you, maybe not. Just puttin it out there... It wasn't "designed" to be adjusted on the fly. Not that it can't be done, but it it a little awkward. For vertical adjustments it may bind a bit less after a little breaking in also. I have to shimmy mine a bit to move it up n down, if you are doin it on the McFly, please be McCareful!!
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2013, 11:16:15 am »
Capo, I'm not even attempting to adjust the windshield while moving.  I did try to adjust
it at a red light once... just once.  Quick adjustments weren't working for me, they took time,
which when sitting on the hot bike in the heat (heat index 102*) perceptions of time tend to warp,
and little things tend to irritate more than usual.  Thinking a 'quick' stop and adjust was where
things started to go wrong.

Overall it wasn't a good day for me to just jump on the bike and try it out.... but I did anyway. :-[
Today is a bad day too.... have to help Mom move.  Ugh.  Maybe a sunrise cruise tomorrow.   :motonoises:

I'm by no means passing judgement yet...  My inaugural ride sucked.  So everything involved sucked too!  >:(
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2013, 07:20:58 am »
Understood. Be safe, and enjoy :)
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2013, 11:57:51 am »
How are the windshields in the rain? Does rain fly up behind it?

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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2013, 11:05:39 pm »
Nothing flies up behind it in fl. monsoons. It performs excellent in the rain, clears itself like a "rain-x" commercial. Again... A definite 2 thumbs up... Way up!!
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2013, 01:55:40 am »
  Have had my Madstad for about a week and have been trying to find the sweet spot in the adjustments. The best so far seems to be where I'm looking thru the upper couple of inches. I like the looks and the fact that it's not almost in my face like the Cee Bailey. Also with the Cee Bailey it was hot from the engine heat. With the Madstad you get more cooling air.
  My wife says she hears a slight whistle. I think that may be the air blowing across the grill just below the shield.
  Was kind of frustrated at first trying to find the right adjustment but am getting close. At least you can change it to suit you.  ;)
   
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2013, 01:59:41 am »
I can't get rid of the whistle no matter what I do.  I can make it less loud, but not gone.  The Rifle made zero noise so that is my goal.  If I angle it outward, it whistles less but makes the wind noise more turbulent.  I'll try doing something with the air cowl in the fairing.
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2013, 03:46:47 am »
  The air cowl is the only thing I can think of. When I had the shield lower the whistle was louder.
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2013, 12:06:10 pm »
Ken, you don't think one of your buddies stuck one of those road kill (deer) prevention whistles somewhere on your bike do you??
I know you are frustrated, keep at it though, you'll find the cure.
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2013, 04:27:22 pm »
Maybe put a piece of masking tape over the air cowl and test it out.
Sounds like a good source for noise.

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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2013, 04:34:12 pm »
Seeing that the Madstad is raised off the fairing, I don't think I need the extra venting at all to the inside of the shield.  I'm gonna block the front vent and see how that works. 
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2013, 04:36:46 pm »
Seeing that the Madstad is raised off the fairing, I don't think I need the extra venting at all to the inside of the shield.  I'm gonna block the front vent and see how that works.

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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2013, 01:04:30 am »
Seeing that the Madstad is raised off the fairing, I don't think I need the extra venting at all to the inside of the shield.  I'm gonna block the front vent and see how that works.


Because there's no turbulent air, or back pressure that existed with the fixed screens, I'm sure the air is
moving through those vents much faster...  Any small hole, such as a hole in the frame could potentially
cause that whistle.  I put my air horn compressor in there, and removed the OEM horn and bracket.

Here's what's back there: 



I'm thinking it's the air going between that back cover (above and behind the horn assy) and the dash top's leading edge... kinda like having
the car window down a crack.... causing the whistle.  My dash is pushed back in this pic, so it's not the best example,
but gives you a look in.  Perhaps some weatherstripping to close that gap??

Or some Black RTV and a spackle knife....                    :sign0151:


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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #65 on: August 20, 2013, 02:06:53 am »
Capo, thanks for the info, I think a new shield is on the wish list.

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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #66 on: August 20, 2013, 09:58:03 pm »
Hopeful your test solves the problem Ken. I like the theory Marty. My fingers are crossed.
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2013, 02:30:29 pm »
This morning I got to run the Connie for a good two hours with the new windscreen.   :great:
A fresh rider and some cool(er) air made a big difference.

Ken, with my windscreen all the way up and upright I get a faint whistle too.  It's hardly there,
a tilting the screen back a few degrees eliminates it with no noticeable effect on performance.

Funny thing is, with this setup it's better all the way down than the OEM screen was,  probably
because of the lack of back pressure, and smooth airflow over the top.   All the way down and
back and it is air blasting in my face.  Around town in the summer this is actually welcome
because I can use the helmet visor to block air if necessary.

Highway with the Madstad all the way up, and tilted 'a bit' back is pure bliss in comparison
to Kawasaki's "Turbulator" windscreen.  A very brief  ::) run at 90 mph on the slab was
quiet and comfortable, though enough air passes into the 'pocket' to warrant the helmet
visor staying down.  Think an adjustment might reduce that too?   Usually the buffeting
is so bad at high speed I get the feeling Mike Tyson is hitting my helmet like a speed bag.
Behind big rigs is a little better to me, but not so much that I'd stay behind one indefinitely.

I really didn't have a lot of glare issues, though once as I was riding into the sun, the edge
of the screen lit up like a neon tube for a few seconds.   ???

I think the Madstad is well worth the investment, and I will continue to fiddle with it to find
the best positions for different riding conditions.  I may start marking favorite settings on the
adjustable bracket somehow.  Infinite adjustability makes it hard to lock in a previous
setting I liked. (<--not a complaint)  Anyone on the fence about dropping the coin on one
of these (I was for a while) should know that going from OEM to Madstad... it's worth it.
As I've only had the factory windscreen on my Connie, I couldn't (and wouldn't) make any
claims on how it compares to other aftermarket offerings.

This one's for you Capo:   :)
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2013, 03:51:10 pm »
 :great: :motonoises:    :)
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2013, 01:26:56 am »
I found that if I block the space in the middle between the shield and the fairing piece, the whistle goes away.  Changing the angle out only makes the air flow buffet more to me.  I have to find a way to make up for the way this thing was engineered by installing some kind of baffle in that space.  I'm not sure what to use though.  I don't want it looking stupid and I don't want to impede its adjustability. 
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2013, 09:30:30 pm »
I found that if I block the space in the middle between the shield and the fairing piece, the whistle goes away.  Changing the angle out only makes the air flow buffet more to me.  I have to find a way to make up for the way this thing was engineered by installing some kind of baffle in that space.  I'm not sure what to use though.  I don't want it looking stupid and I don't want to impede its adjustability.

Hey Ken, try blocking the air to just the windscreen bracket.  My right side bracket causes a slight whistle at
highway speed (50 mph +)  Blocking the air to just that bracket stopped the whistle completely.  I'm thinking
the little holes and spaces between the bracket parts cause the whistle.  I'm going to try easy stuff first. and
see if some split vacuum tube on the leading edge of the bracket stops it.

If I adjust the windscreen, the whistle will go away (proven), so I'm locking it down in this spot to try to
figure out how to stop it.  I'll post back with the results tomorrow.  I'm riding to work while the humidity is low!   :great:
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2013, 11:33:21 pm »
I'll be watching. 
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2013, 08:40:39 pm »
I sent an e-mail to Madstad, and they've sent me a reply, so I'm going to share it
in hopes of helping those with the dreaded 'whistle'. 

I'm going to try this with some weatherstripping I have laying about, and report back when I get the chance to ride... (effin' rain! :38:  )

Marty,

I apologize for the late reply. We have had a few other reports of a whistling sound, and usually it turned out to be a small gap between our base plate and the fairing where air was whistling through. I don't know if you have any sort of foam strip to apply around the edges of the shield, but if you want I can send you some to see if that fixes the problem. This would be a thin adhesive foam strip that you apply onto your fairing, right at the bottom edge of where the windshield attaches. Let me know if you need this and we'll get it out to you. Thank you.

Best regards,
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2013, 09:58:43 pm »
Dang,
how come they don't make a screen for a C14? with the customer service I have seen from them lately I would buy one just because of that!
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Re: My Madstad experience
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2013, 01:33:21 am »
damn, like I said months ago two thumbs up for Madstad, that IS customer service there
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