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Poorboy Pull Backs
« on: June 16, 2011, 05:11:39 pm »
I use this when I am running the slab and need to stretch my legs and find a new riding position.  This gives my hands, back, arms and neck a rest and allows me a relaxing break from the normal riding position.  This allows me to steer the bike using bar pressure to maintain control of the bike.  I would not recommend doing this in a congested area, but out in the wide open spaces, it can be a very refreshing change.  It allows you to cool the lower part of your body  by getting away from some of the engine heat.   

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 05:56:11 pm »
When they find you smeared all over a freeway somewhere, we'll know why  :))

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2011, 08:23:43 pm »
I saw something like this several years ago and came up with a similar solution - using retractors to pull them back out of the way when not in use.

I use lanyards looped around the ends of the grips, the other end tied to small retractors (think mini-retractable- key ring) near the handlebar mounts.  They are on my C10 all the time.  My C10 doesn't have any 45-50 mph front end wobble issues.

Yes, they're safe, at least for me.  I only use them in certain places with light to no traffic, straight away cruising, excellent visibility, etc.  These are the times where I used to sit back with no hands on bars at all to change position for a while, giving my back and arthritic neck a different postion and some relief.

IMO its as safe than the one handed / no handed approach which most everybody does at one time or another to change gloves, adjust a mirror, eat some trail mix, take a drink, etc.  I don't use them in traffic, to weave through debris, or run some twisties.  If I need to grab the bars, I just let go of the lanyards which retract out of the way on their own and grab the bars.

These things really help me extend the time before I have to get off the bike for a rest.  Its very easy to keep the bike on line with a small amount of pull on one side or the other, in keeping with counter steering principles.

I call them RPIE's - Retractable Pilot Input Extenders.

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- I've made sure they do not get in they way of the grips or tankbag or anything else at any point of the lock to lock turning range, whether in use or retracted.

- They are for use on a closed course only, by professional riders.

- Do not use on heavy machinery or while sleeping.

- Please consult with your doctor to see if you are healthy enough to use RPIE's and to discuss if RPIE's are for you.

- During use of RPIE's, you should refrain from making any important decisions or doing anything requiring concentraction, alertness or physical effort of any kind.

- Children under 12 and pregnant men should not use RPEI's.

- Side effects may include unexpected and sudden bowel movements and / or the inability to control them, sudden inability of bladder control, sleeplessness, sleepiness, irritability, slurred speeach, blurred vision, dizzy spells, kidney, liver and spleen damage, and all sorts of other maladies that should cause you to think twice about even considering this.

- Contact your doctor immediately if you experience any of the above symptoms or any other embarrassing conditions lasting 4 to 6 hours.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2011, 08:31:22 pm »
I think I will call mine Gyro Stabilizers.  Do you think a LEO would buy it. :-\

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2011, 08:42:32 pm »
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2011, 10:21:15 pm »
Just lean back and steer by leaning.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2011, 10:27:26 pm »
 :32:    :))

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 01:45:12 pm »
Cap'n Bob,  are you refereeing to Pull Backs, or Willy P driving without hands on the bars?    I am still in the test mode with this.  Out of the 50 plus years I have been riding I have only used these for about 30 years.   And I have not had to say Whoa, there, big fella not one time. :)
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 02:00:06 pm »
I don't see any problem with these is reasonable care is taken. I assumeyou have a cruise control or a throttle stop.
I think they are far better than riding with no hands because of the posibilty of the dreaded Connie head shake. His idea should add that tiny bit of stability needed to prevent the shake..

I have a simple throttle lock and do the one handed procedure myself.

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 05:20:43 pm »
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 06:23:03 pm »
Another idea along this line that I have tried a few times to relieve back pain.   This will make you roll your eyes.  Try putting your hands down on the fearing just below the glove boxes and steer with your forearm/elbows. 

Once you enjoy that feeling then try reaching across and try driving with the wrong hand on the opposite side of the bars.  That is a real scary.   DNTTAH YRMV  JK... If you do this do not tell the medic or the lawyer I told you to.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 07:55:38 pm »
I have a simple throttle lock and do the one handed procedure myself.
Ride safe, Ted

Arghhh Mettler,,,
 I just realized whut I sed.....   blush,,,,

So, I'll ellaborate.....

(I have a simple throttle lock and do the one handed procedure myself.)
But this gets tiring pretty quickly and my back begins to hurt.
So,,, To relieve the stress,,,, I CHANGE HANDS periodically....  ;)

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 10:14:45 pm »
  On a long ride I ride one handed at times. Gives you hands time to relax. But to tie 2 strings to my grips and drive it like a bobsled. No way!! :32:
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2011, 06:59:59 pm »
Does anyone have this 'head shake' thing? If so it is easy to fix.
I pass on the 'pull back'. I like gadgets but I sure dont like the looks of this one.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2011, 06:59:35 pm »
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And I have not had to say Whoa, there, big fella not one time

Ditto. 

Its not at all how some of the poster's seem to think it is, and yields more secure control than a one handed approach IMO.

But to each his own and as always: YMMV.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2011, 07:04:46 pm »
Are there parachutes attached to those rip cords?   :-\    Might work for you but they are ccertainly not for me.
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2011, 10:35:44 pm »
try reaching across and try driving with the wrong hand on the opposite side of the bars.  That is a real scary.

Not scary. I've done it for years.  Freaks out the girlfriend each time.  I don't have a throttle lock (yet) and this allows me to rest my right hand some.  I usually only do it for a minute or so, then back to normal.    I've done this on dirt bikes and many street bikes for the past xx years (read: 20)
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 01:45:03 am »
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2011, 10:16:20 pm »
Zorlac , good to here from you,  If you look close you will find this is Suitable for ages 6 and older. That takes me out of the picture.  I think we are riding with a bunch of PUP'S^-^
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 04:50:15 pm »
2 posts, and the suggestion of riding a machine down the road holding onto strings......
yeah, Zorlac may be from outer space, but he ain't calling in from Uranus   :))

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 06:17:15 pm »
Rich, when are you going to mellow out?.  you hard a**. ;)   PS I would have a beer with you. ;)
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2011, 08:59:22 pm »
Rich, when are you going to mellow out?.  you hard a**. ;)   PS I would have a beer with you. ;)

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 01:05:57 am »
But seriously, Zorlac is from another planet, he told me so himself.... :rotflmao:  :beerchug:
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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 01:09:55 am »
Is planet Claire where they have Rock Lobsters??   If so ... if you can get me there, I could catch some for you!!

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Re: Poorboy Pull Backs
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2011, 12:25:39 pm »
Another idea along this line that I have tried a few times to relieve back pain.   This will make you roll your eyes.  Try putting your hands down on the fearing just below the glove boxes and steer with your forearm/elbows. 

Once you enjoy that feeling then try reaching across and try driving with the wrong hand on the opposite side of the bars.  That is a real scary.   DNTTAH YRMV  JK... If you do this do not tell the medic or the lawyer I told you to.
I have never done that, but I have rested my elbows on the bar end weights.  You can rest your hand on the dash.  It kinda looks like you are praying.  This works fantastic with electronic cruise, it works ok with the cramp buster but you can change speed very quickly with the later.
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