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Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« on: March 24, 2012, 01:47:49 pm »
After recently viewing the 2011/2012 concourier on page 22 is a bike covered in snow and it looks like an aftermarket pipe showing through the snow. I have a 2000 and the exhaust is starting to show its age. Any ideas or info will really help an aftermarket parts

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 06:16:27 pm »
Hi Chris,

as per our conversation this morning, unfortunately, I don't know who sent me this particular picture. Every time we are assembling new issue of the Concourier many members send me or the editor their pictures for possible use and as soon as issue is completed and sent to printer I delete old pictures to make space for next issue. But don't be discouraged. COG is a great club and this Forum is a great deposit of collective knowledge about anything related to all models of Kawasaki Concours.  :great:

I did quick search and here is one interesting discussion about 4-into-1 exhaust. Even though it is sold, you will find contacts for Jim Snyder, Steve (Steve in Sunny Fla) and Rev Ryder - these gents are very knowledgeable and very technical about anything related to C10. Contact them directly and you will get more tech info than you can chew!  :-\

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,32812.msg163232.html#msg163232

Also, try to use advanced search on the Forum yourself - there is a wealth of info right under your fingertips.

As for OEM mufflers, here is the info on parts from Kawasaki:

Part#                          Part Name
18091   18091-0206  BODY-COMP-MUFFLER, LH
18091A 18091-0207  BODY-COMP-MUFFLER, RH

http://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/?gclid=CKLZnMCZgK8CFYNx4AodN0fP0g#/Kawasaki/ZG1000-A15_Concours_(2000)/MUFFLER(S)/ZG1000-A15-2000/C19C1903E1140

Hope these help. If not, please, contact me and will try to get you more info or lead you to right people.

Best regards and welcome to COG and Forum!  :beerchug:
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 07:19:32 pm »
THanks Alex for the heads up on this thread.

n/a, there aren;t a LOT of options for the COnnie when it comes to bolt-on aftermarket exhausts/mufflers.  But here's one option...
http://www.holeshot.com/

As far as performance, these have a nice sound and will give a slight increase in power.  However, try doing a search for "bafflectomy" and see what comes up.  Dyno testing has proven the bafflectomy to provide about the same power increase and a similar sound to the more expensive mufflers.  Hundreds of C-10 owners have taken holesaws, punches, and even a hammer and re-bar after their exhaust's internal pieces in search of sound and performance.

Personally... I like quiet, but then I'm wierd.   :D
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 12:29:30 am »
After recently viewing the 2011/2012 concourier on page 22 is a bike covered in snow and it looks like an aftermarket pipe showing through the snow. I have a 2000 and the exhaust is starting to show its age. Any ideas or info will really help an aftermarket parts

Another option are the Delkevic mufflers. Naturally they don't make one for the Connie but thats not important. Two of the GSXR-1000 mufflers can be easily fitted to the stock exhaust with some minor modifications. Someone on the ZG/GTR forum did this a year or so ago. The other option is to shop ebay for some used holeshots or Cobra F-1's. Problem there is they are WAY loud. The Delkevics are fairly quiet in comparison.
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 03:08:44 am »
I believe on ebay there's a aftermarket company by the name of motad that makes aftermarket mufflers for the connie.
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 03:13:53 am »
This Carbon Fiber Vance and Hines SS2R is what I modified for the turbo.  It has a straight through glass pack design that is a solid 2" hole straight through.

 But it really hasn't held up at all appearance wise.  It got trashy looking WAY too soon.
EDIT TO ADD: It was for a Buell.
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2012, 02:18:54 pm »
Rev ryder thanx for the heads up  on the connie exhaust aftermearket . I checked out the website and will be ordering them asap.Holeshot ha sgot just what I wanted thanx again

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2012, 10:04:02 pm »
I believe on ebay there's a aftermarket company by the name of motad that makes aftermarket mufflers for the connie.

Yes, Motad. I recall a thread about six or seven months ago about this. I think Motad is based in England.

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2012, 10:08:04 pm »
I believe on ebay there's a aftermarket company by the name of motad that makes aftermarket mufflers for the connie.


Yes, Motad. I recall a thread about six or seven months ago about this. I think Motad is based in England.




24th line down on the list.   ;)

http://www.motad.co.uk/category.php?cat=&manu=Kawasaki

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 10:11:16 pm »
Rev ryder thanx for the heads up  on the connie exhaust aftermearket . I checked out the website and will be ordering them asap.Holeshot ha sgot just what I wanted thanx again

I would be interested in the Holeshots if they provided a sound clip on the website. One COGger in-the-know told me they are "obnoxiously loud." I really would not buy a muffler sound-unheard. You may just end up with something that draws undue attention to an otherwise civilized (seeming) motorcycle. One of the greatest things about the C10 is that most people (car drivers and non-C10 riders) don't pay much attention to it.

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 10:40:52 pm »
Simon, I have the Cobra's on mine.
I've heard the Holeshots on several other bikes. The Cobra's are much louder.
Because of the loudness, I built an internal muffler chamber in my Cobra's to help quiten them down a bit.
Lots of work to do!!! But, I like the sound better.....

If you like quiet, the Connie Mufflers are the quietest,
the Connie Mufflers with baffelectomy give only a slight/mild increase in sound.
But do give an increase in Mid range torque.

The Delkivic is probably is the next loudest.

The Holeshots are next in loudness, they look GOOD, and are not excessively loud (to my thinking).

The loudest are the Cobra's.'

I think all the Aftermarket mufflers will give you a slight increase in Mid range. They are also about 20 lbs lighter than Stock Connie Mufflers.

Final Note: I recently built a 4 into 1.
I then modified and installed a Jardine. Unless your 20 years old, its Too loud...
So I'm planning to try a Delkevic in the near future...

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 10:57:32 pm »
Ted:

Thanks for all the good info.

I am certainly looking for more mid-range torque, which is why my carbs. are en route to SISF. I'll be doing the exhaust cam sprocket mod., as well, and I can't wait to try out my "new" bike.

As for muffler mods., I'm interested in something throaty, but not obnoxious. I was a minor (micro) player in the recent attempt to get Lang Hindle to manufacture an aftermarket performance system for the C10. I had one of his 4-into-1 systems on my Maxim 650, and it sounded fabulous. It also improved the mid-range acceleration, even though I was too young and too stupid to get the carbs. modified.

The bafflectomy sounds like a great option, but after reading so many descriptions of how to do it and with what tools, I am unclear as to how to proceed. I shall continue to search for a how-to that makes obvious sense to me.

I would be very interested in a sound byte of your custom solutions.

Again, Ted, thanks for the great input.

Cheers,

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2012, 12:01:37 am »
I think I'd go for the bafellectomy and Steve's torque cams not just his exhaust cam mod.
The PO of my 90 removed the rivets and then removed a at least one baffel and then screwed my cans back together.
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2012, 02:53:32 pm »
I think I'd go for the bafellectomy and Steve's torque cams not just his exhaust cam mod.
The PO of my 90 removed the rivets and then removed a at least one baffel and then screwed my cans back together.

You lost me ... what is the "PO"?

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2012, 03:40:31 pm »
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2012, 04:51:06 pm »
After recently viewing the 2011/2012 concourier on page 22 is a bike covered in snow and it looks like an aftermarket pipe showing through the snow. I have a 2000 and the exhaust is starting to show its age. Any ideas or info will really help an aftermarket parts

Dude, where were you last month when I sold my new 4 into 1 exhaust right here? I could have fixed you up. It will be winter until I build another one.
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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2012, 11:43:24 pm »
Simon, the easiest way to do a baffelectomy is;
Find a piece of steel bar that will just fit into the muffler,
Grind a tapered point on it, (Approx 2"-3" long)
Use a "Harley Davidson Fine Tuning Tool" (Hammer) to drive it into your muffler until the point "starts" to break thru the inner baffle plate on the muffler,
Inspect with a flash light,
Do other muffler, to same depth,
Inspect with a flash light,
Ride bike and see what you think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Repeat process, increasing hole size slowly until you chicken out....   :confuse:

Or,,,,,,

Find a piece of steel bar that will just fit into the muffler,
Grind a tapered point on it, (Approx 2"-3" long)
Use a "Harley Davidson Fine Tuning Tool" (Hammer) to drive it into your muffler until the point "starts" to break thru the inner baffle plate on the muffler,
Inspect with a flash light,
Do other muffler, to same depth,
Inspect with a flash light,

Keep beating on the steel bar with the (HDFTT) until the hole is as big as the inside of your muffler. 
(Use a little care to ensure that you don't drive it out the other end of your muffler)..
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Ride bike and see what you think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 06:39:49 am »
Can any one tell me the minor modifications needed  that Jim Snyder mentioned to fit the Delkevics GSXR 1000 Mufflers to the Concours? I like the way the Delkevics sounded on a Concours 14. The weight savings is pretty good over stock also. The Dale Walker mufflers are very nice but pricey.

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2012, 04:53:00 pm »
Brian,

The Delkevic installation that I've seen for dual pipes was done using a kit for a Honda CBR1100xx, which ends up being a little less expensive than buying two GSXR mufflers.  You may want to PM forum member Britconc, who is the one who did the work.  The work required involves cutting out the bend in the midpipe and modifying one end to fit the C10 exhaust and making a stop for the centerstand.  I have some Delkevics that I plan on installing, but will be using custom midpipes.

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Re: Aftermarket exhaust for the 2000 Connie
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2012, 02:22:35 am »
Ted:

You're one funny guy. I owe you a [HUGE] beer, both for your great how-to and for your sense of humour.

When my carbs return from Florida and the bike is back together, I will give the baffelectomy a whirl.

Thanks, man.

Simon