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Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« on: April 04, 2012, 12:51:11 pm »
Hi All,

I've got a Gerbing electric jacket and pair of Gerbing gloves that plug in to the jacket sleeves. They date to about 2002. A couple of days ago I noted the left glove was not at all warm during a chilly commute.

My multimeter told me I had continuity between the pos and neg sides of the left glove's plug, plus an impedance of between 10 and 20 ohms or so (difficult to measure exactly because the meter would not settle). The right glove which was warm, gave similar readings. That tells me the problem is in the jacket.

The left sleeve feels warm when the jacket is plugged in to the bike. That leaves me feeling the problem is in the left glove's connector on the jacket. With the jacket unplugged from the bike and gloves unplugged from the jacket, the multimeter said there's continuity between the contacts of the left sleeve plug. I also get continuity between *any two* plug contacts, like say between the left sleeve pos to right sleeve neg, or main plug neg to left sleeve pos, etc. Any two contacts between any two plugs gives me continuity.

So what's up with that?

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 01:28:47 pm »
Scott

Is this a dual wired jacket, or are the gloves on a single circuit with the jacket?

If single, what you are seeing may make sense since all the pos and neg are common respectively.

Can you see +12V a the glove connector when powered up?  Some pulsing of the voltage may be normal if you have a temp controller.  Set it to max to get a near steady voltage.
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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 01:46:04 pm »
Steve,

There's only one main 12v in to the jacket and the gloves plug into the sleeves, so it appears to be a single circuit.

For some reason I never thought to check for voltage or current at the sleeve connector. I'll have to do that.

I don't run with the controller anymore since I fried it in a rain storm coming home from Wellsboro one year. Water managed to seep in to the controller at its wire penetration due to my attachment arrangement, and it shorted. My wife said I smelled like an electrical fire when I got home. But that's another story.

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 03:52:00 pm »
Steve,

There's only one main 12v in to the jacket and the gloves plug into the sleeves, so it appears to be a single circuit.

For some reason I never thought to check for voltage or current at the sleeve connector. I'll have to do that.

I don't run with the controller anymore since I fried it in a rain storm coming home from Wellsboro one year. Water managed to seep in to the controller at its wire penetration due to my attachment arrangement, and it shorted. My wife said I smelled like an electrical fire when I got home. But that's another story.

We'll need more info for further diagnosis, so report back what you find.

BTW - If you check and find the glove connector is powered, monitor the voltage while moving all the jacket wiring around to make sure it is not intermittent.
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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 05:47:25 pm »
mmmmm.  I would swap the right and left gloves and then put them on, with the jacket off, of course.  Will tell you if it is a glove or if it is the jacket.
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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 05:52:01 pm »
mmmmm.  I would swap the right and left gloves and then put them on, with the jacket off, of course.  Will tell you if it is a glove or if it is the jacket.

If the voltage check proves indeterminant, then the swap will be called for.

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2012, 08:07:29 pm »
mmmmm.  I would swap the right and left gloves and then put them on, with the jacket off, of course.  Will tell you if it is a glove or if it is the jacket.


My thoughts exactly. If the problem stays on the left side, it's safe to say it's the jacket. If the problem goes to the right side, then it's safe to say it's the glove. The date of your gear probably means that it was built with SAE connectors. Gerbings has since moved on from them. My friends SAE connectors needed to be replaced. One for not working like you describe, and another for over heating. So don't be surprised if something needs to go back to Gerbings for some fresh wiring work.
 

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2012, 09:06:51 pm »
Don't have heated clothing, but general troubleshooting of electrics...
Why did the resistance reading on the left glove not settle?  Did the right glove give a steady number?
If no reason why left glove did not settle the reading, and the right one gave you a steady reading, there might be an intermittent connection in the left glove.
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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2012, 11:36:09 pm »
Cap'n Bob, the gloves are co-axially connected to the sleeves. The only SAE connector is jacket to bike. But I digress.

I got about 8 volts at the sleeve connector on both sleeves, so they are working just fine.

I swapped the gloves left for right and noted that the right glove on the left sleeve heated up quite nicely. The left glove on the right sleeve was a different story. The back of the hand got warm, but the fingers remained cold. Also, the left glove's connector got warm, while the right glove's connector did not. There must be a broken wire near the fingers. Time for a new pair I guess. Ten years of bending finally fatigued a wire.

Anyone know if Gerbing will take back a ten-year-old jacket for re-wiring to co-ax for the main connector?

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2012, 01:31:40 am »
Cap'n Bob, the gloves are co-axially connected to the sleeves. The only SAE connector is jacket to bike. But I digress.

I got about 8 volts at the sleeve connector on both sleeves, so they are working just fine.

I swapped the gloves left for right and noted that the right glove on the left sleeve heated up quite nicely. The left glove on the right sleeve was a different story. The back of the hand got warm, but the fingers remained cold. Also, the left glove's connector got warm, while the right glove's connector did not. There must be a broken wire near the fingers. Time for a new pair I guess. Ten years of bending finally fatigued a wire.

Anyone know if Gerbing will take back a ten-year-old jacket for re-wiring to co-ax for the main connector?

Scott


Read their warranty info: http://gerbing.com/Info/warranty.php
then call Gerbing... they can evaluate the problem and may repair it, replace it, or offer an upgrade deal.
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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 07:35:58 am »
Gerbings will upgrade to the newer connectors or whatever else might be needed. But  there might be a charge. I don't remember if my friend had to pay or not when he got his done. Call them, it can't hurt. They are very good with customer service.

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2012, 12:45:58 pm »
A guy on the stromtrooper forum just sent his secondhand gloves in to Gerbing for repair, and they sent him a brand spanking new pair for no charge.  Give it a shot.

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2012, 02:52:51 pm »
I will likely have to wait a bit longer for the weather to warm up (here in MAINE) before I'm ready to part with my cold weather riding gear for any length of time. Tuesday morning it was 28F at commute time, this morning it was 34F.  8) literally. Thanks for all the advice.

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Re: Gerbing Heated Glove Troubleshooting Problem
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2012, 04:31:02 pm »
Oh, beehave!  It was 32 when I left this morning and I hit spots where it was 28.  I left the heated gloves in the side case.  (but those heated grips sure hit the spot)    :nananana:
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