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Title: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on May 31, 2014, 10:37:39 pm
I have a set of Cree lights and one stopped lighting. I switched lights to see if it was the wiring or the light. It was the light. I am having a hard time finding the kit and/or just one light. The box says DRL LED04.
So if anyone knows where I can find that, or recommend another, that'd be great. I want it bright enough, where if I ever have an issue with my HID, then at least I could still see.
The ones I have are round with 4 elements each.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: beegee on May 31, 2014, 11:16:20 pm
Those...?
I ordered them last week...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CREE-LED-Mirror-Mount-LED-Daytime-Running-Fog-Lights-Fits-Kawasaki-1400-GTR-Gra-/390800714516?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5afd89ab14 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/CREE-LED-Mirror-Mount-LED-Daytime-Running-Fog-Lights-Fits-Kawasaki-1400-GTR-Gra-/390800714516?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5afd89ab14)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: WillyP on May 31, 2014, 11:51:02 pm
I'd start with a Google search for DRL LED04. Not knowing the brand, or even a description, it's a random guess.

Here's what i came up with from a Google search:

(http://www.hqlights.se/image/cache/data/38739_1_xlarge-800x600.jpg)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on May 31, 2014, 11:56:34 pm
Yep, those are the ones. I did find these these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301175427390?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/301175427390?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
I thought "awesome!" so I bought them. Good price, I figured and my situation would be solved. So they came today and they do look exactly like mine, but plastic housing. Mine are alloy. I hooked one up to compare with the one that works and the output is significantly less. So I am back to square one.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on May 31, 2014, 11:59:25 pm
I'll keep looking to see if I can buy just one if that is possible.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 01, 2014, 12:02:51 am
Here is the set, same box too, for less than 1/2 what I paid. I 'spose I could just order this.
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-High-power-Multi-Function-LED-04-Car-LED-DRL-Car-LED-Daytime-Running-Light/703831040.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-High-power-Multi-Function-LED-04-Car-LED-DRL-Car-LED-Daytime-Running-Light/703831040.html)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 01, 2014, 02:02:48 am
This is what I'm planning on getting for my Connie: http://stores.advmonster.com/f11-fog-light-pair/ (http://stores.advmonster.com/f11-fog-light-pair/)
Much brighter and has the proper cut-off for road use. I'm planning on mounting them to my roll-over bars. They have mounting brackets on the same site.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Mr Orange on June 01, 2014, 05:55:46 am
Here's what I'm running with mounted on these brackets...
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/photos/i-LfFSJwq/0/M/i-LfFSJwq-M.jpg) (http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/photos/i-xKL9HJL/0/M/i-xKL9HJL-M.jpg)

(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/photos/i-BW4KNJ9/0/M/i-BW4KNJ9-M.jpg)

http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_darla.html (http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_darla.html)

and I'm in the process of installing these...
(http://gargoyle.smugmug.com/photos/i-VNSwSfg/0/M/i-VNSwSfg-M.jpg)

http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_erica.html (http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_erica.html)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 01, 2014, 12:42:06 pm
I am reluctant to give my visa to the folks in China selling the DRL's. They do not take paypal. Nice options you guys. I might go with Paul's ADV Monsters. Thanks for the tips.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 01, 2014, 01:14:15 pm
Paul, do you need to buy their rotary dimmer or use some other dimmer switch? Or just run them full power?
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: WillyP on June 01, 2014, 01:31:07 pm
There's also these: MondoMotos - LED Lighting and lots more (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,39495.0.html), and I believe they are a COG Industry Member too.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: WillyP on June 01, 2014, 01:35:54 pm
Here's what I'm running with mounted on these brackets...



and I'm in the process of installing these...

[url]http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_erica.html[/url] ([url]http://www.clearwaterlights.com/infopg_erica.html[/url])


E-gads... 850 for the large lights and 500 for the small? Seriously?
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 01, 2014, 01:38:59 pm
I know. I saw that too... yowza!
Thx Willy, your suggestion looks great.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 01, 2014, 04:43:26 pm
I haven't committed to buying aux lights yet, so I don't know if I will need to dim the ADVMonster lights or not. Since they are designed to be used as fog lights and have a proper cut-off (like your headlights so as not to blind oncoming traffic), I'm thinking that I won't need a dimmer.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 02, 2014, 03:50:09 pm
I just bought the F11 ADV's. Thx Paul for the tip. I talked to John over there. He said it'll hook up just fine with my existing wiring from the crappy Chinese kit. I also bought that flashlight. Charge once a year!? Cool.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 03, 2014, 12:57:50 am
Todd, let us know what you think of the lights when you get them installed. I see you live in Eagan. I work there. Maybe we can get together some day after work so that I can see how they look.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 03, 2014, 01:02:01 am
Wow! Small world! I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 03, 2014, 01:15:47 pm
Sounds good Todd. I'm sure we'll have a good time comparing farkles.  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 14, 2014, 12:14:43 am
I have them installed. I like 'em. I haven't ridden at night yet though.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Derick on June 15, 2014, 11:56:03 pm
I know this thread is a bit dated, but I just bought the model 90s from advmonster.com

(http://www.beginnerbikers.org/derick/482611.jpg)

I like them a lot, but they are way bright. This is during the day, on one of the lowest dimmer settings.....

I paid 225ish or so, found a coupon code that saved me 10 or 15 percent.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Mr Orange on June 17, 2014, 09:13:11 pm
I know this thread is a bit dated, but I just bought the model 90s from advmonster.com

([url]http://www.beginnerbikers.org/derick/482611.jpg[/url])

I like them a lot, but they are way bright. This is during the day, on one of the lowest dimmer settings.....

I paid 225ish or so, found a coupon code that saved me 10 or 15 percent.


Do you have a link to that model 90 light? I went to the advmonster site and couldn't find a model 90. I'm looking for a less expensive set of lights for a friend and these might be the ticket.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 17, 2014, 09:32:16 pm
The F11's were a lot less.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 17, 2014, 11:23:15 pm
No only are the F11's less expensive, they don't require a dimmer because they have the proper cut-off to prevent blinding oncoming traffic. I too could not find a model 90, or anything else in that price range. As far as I can tell, all the the other lights they sell are for off-road use, whereas the F11's are intended for use on the road.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Derick on June 23, 2014, 05:18:22 pm
My fault..they are actually 60's..

http://stores.advmonster.com/model-60-led-off-road-flood-light/ (http://stores.advmonster.com/model-60-led-off-road-flood-light/)

The F11's have 1/3 of the lumens, thats why I liked the dimmer....in addition, I've got them aimed low enough that they are very effective, but not blinding to oncoming traffic...
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: squishman on June 23, 2014, 06:00:07 pm
Here's a shot of what they look like on my Conk. The mounts were made and powdercoated by Snarf. I hooked the F11's to my existing wiring from the cheap chinese kit. It's great. I have a dash switch, but the lights will not come on until you click the starter, like the headlight.


(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx159/Squishman/1cb0a602-8334-461d-b246-5d2f54e4acc5.jpg) (http://s751.photobucket.com/user/Squishman/media/1cb0a602-8334-461d-b246-5d2f54e4acc5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: virtualdev on June 24, 2014, 03:58:06 pm
Wow, I guess I'm just super broke or frugal or cheap or something.  $225 sounds like a fortune to me for LED driving lights.  I paid $25 each here, looks like they are a little less now:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009SAAK7G/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009SAAK7G&linkCode=as2&tag=theborkeduniv-20&linkId=XNBWLU2YGH3RVS3I (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009SAAK7G/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B009SAAK7G&linkCode=as2&tag=theborkeduniv-20&linkId=XNBWLU2YGH3RVS3I)

Pics of them mounted on Snarf mounts:

Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 24, 2014, 04:25:04 pm
Virtualdev, you get what you pay for generally. I think you'll find that the cheaper lights are not very weather resistant. I've also found that the weak link in LED lights are not the emitters; pretty much everybody uses Cree emitters these days, but in the drivers. LEDs require a constant current source and often times this is where the corners are cut. Another place is inferior heat sinks. High power LEDs put out a lot of heat, but unlike incan bulbs, the heat must be removed or they will burn out quickly. Heat sinks are made out of aluminum and skimping on this saves cost at the expense of overall lifetime of the LED module. The cheap Chinese units also overstate their output figures considerably; like 100% or more.

Personally I want lights that are made for on-road use, will work as DRLs, will work as fog-lights, and can work as backup lights to get me home if the main headlamp goes out at night. Oh, and they have to be made well so they don't fail after a few hundred hours. So far only the lights that Todd got look like they will meet all those requirements, and for $110 they are a good value all things considered.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: virtualdev on June 24, 2014, 05:55:13 pm
Agreed, I'm not saying they are the best engineered thing ever, but at 10% the cost I feel they are a good product.  I've run mine for a year so far in many different kinds of weather, no issues to speak of.  The 30 degree beam is about as wide as I'd ever want to go, narrower wouldn't hurt.

YMMV.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Outback Jon on June 24, 2014, 07:29:47 pm
I'm on my second year with some cheap (at the time) LED driving/work/off-road lights mounted to my tip-over bars.  (They were $75 each when I got them - similar ones are about $30 now)  They're 27W each, with an array of 9 LEDs.  (They replaced a set of 55W each halogen lights)  And they are BRIGHT!  For using half the power, they work really well.  They seem quite weather resistant, and have been through all sorts of horrible weather, both on rides and while parked.  Most of the "shell" of the light is a really large heatsink, so I expect them to work for quite some time.  I rode herd on a group ride of 12 bikes a couple of weekends ago, and the leader had no problem seeing that I was back there, so he knew the group was together.  They have been used as my only "headlight" when I had a HID unit go bad on my way to work.  I just aimed the right side one higher than usual (I have them aimed roughly with the low beam) so I could see a bit further down the road.  Everyone I've ridden with has commented about how much more visible they make the bike.

Speaking of this, I just replaced my headlight with an LED unit.  So far, I really like it.  I've gone through several HID units with failed bulbs, solenoids, or ballasts.  Loved the light, but didn't like the failure rate.  So I figured I'd give some of the new LED units a try.  I wound up with a Genssi LED headlight conversion kit (http://www.genssiled.com/shop/led-conversion-kit-dual-filament/).  Plug and play, has a decent looking heatsink with a fan, and runs 40W on high beam.  (20W on low- and keeps the low on when you go to high)  Uses two LED arrays (one for high, one for low) and claims 2200 lumens, which I believe.  (They list at $200 on their website, but I got them off Ebay for $85) 
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: virtualdev on June 24, 2014, 08:05:44 pm
Wow, those look pretty good if they actually perform.  Interesting, I'll have to put that on my wish list.  Looks like they are on Amazon too, sometimes easier than eBay to deal with:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQ04YI8/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00KQ04YI8&linkCode=as2&tag=theborkeduniv-20&linkId=CON72HW6FAYH7FKG (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQ04YI8/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00KQ04YI8&linkCode=as2&tag=theborkeduniv-20&linkId=CON72HW6FAYH7FKG)

Did you leave the rubber headlight gasket off so the heatsink hangs out in the air?
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Outback Jon on June 25, 2014, 07:37:11 am
Did you leave the rubber headlight gasket off so the heatsink hangs out in the air?
Yeah.  For now.  I've already modded the gasket a bit to fit on the HID bulbs I had.  I have to mod it a bit more to fit on the LEDs.  I will be putting it back on, though.  (Didn't have time the other day when I did the install)  I think with proper trimming, it won't interfere much with the heatsink's function.  Without it, too much light (for my taste, anyway) comes back through the back of the bulb mount and lights up inside the fairing.  It isn't a lot of light, but it is a bit distracting.

Thanks for the Amazon link.  I keep forgetting to check there, and I would have saved $5.  But no complaints from the folks I got it from on Ebay.  California to NY in 2 days via USPS Priority Mail. 
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 25, 2014, 06:20:27 pm
Jon,

How does the pattern look compared to the original and HID bulbs? I'm concerned it won't have the proper horizontal cut-off to prevent blinding oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Outback Jon on June 25, 2014, 09:07:20 pm
How does the pattern look compared to the original and HID bulbs? I'm concerned it won't have the proper horizontal cut-off to prevent blinding oncoming traffic.
Well, I haven't had anyone flash their high beams at me.  Actually, it seems pretty good.  The designs have gotten much better in the last couple of years to be used in standard reflector headlight shells like the C10 uses.  I compared the placement of the LED arrays with the placement of the filaments in the standard H4 bulb I removed, and they're really comparable, so they throw light in a very similar way.  And the added advantage of both the low and high being on when on high beam is really nice.  If it weren't for the deer around here, it is almost nice enough to turn off my extra lights.

I'll have to get it out in some real dark one night, find a good wall, and get some pictures of the beams. 

I also love the "instant on" that LEDs provide when I switch beams. 
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 26, 2014, 05:17:13 pm
Hmmm, I see the GENSSI kit on Amazon is for cars and comes with a pair of modules. If this is the same one you got Jon, what did you do with the second module? I might be interested in buying it from you if you don't have a use for it.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Outback Jon on June 26, 2014, 11:12:44 pm
Hmmm, I see the GENSSI kit on Amazon is for cars and comes with a pair of modules. If this is the same one you got Jon, what did you do with the second module? I might be interested in buying it from you if you don't have a use for it.
I've been debating keeping it as a spare or whatever.  Tell you what, if you don't mind it slightly used, I'll sell it to you.  My daughter's Subaru has H4 headlights and I wanted to try it to compare the light on a two light system.  It will only be used for one night to see how it compares.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 27, 2014, 01:48:30 am
Sounds good to me. At least I'll know that it works!
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Zarticus on June 27, 2014, 11:32:42 am
Been running these for a year & a half, They are on day & night & have almost 15,000 miles of use. Never a problem & at $129 a pair they are a great deal. Yes they are from overseas but they ship fast & got mine in 5 days.
 http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/cPath/33/products_id/63 (http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/cPath/33/products_id/63)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: TinDog on June 27, 2014, 12:03:18 pm
Has anybody tried these basic (cheap) "work lights", usually advertized usually as 18 watt CREE?  I've got my Hella FF50's mounted for night time use when I actually want the driving lights to help me see, but these LED's might be a way to be seen during the daylight hours.  A lot of sellers carry them on Amazon, eBay, etc. for about $20 each (+ or -); almost certainly all just re-branded versions of the same Chinese product.  These, or similar, come in both spot and flood patterns and supposedly put out about 900 to 1200 lumens depending on whose ad you read, so similar to a 55w driving or fog light for total lumens , but at 1/2 the cost and 1/3rd the power. 

I'm not very hopeful about the LED's being adequate to light up the road, but being bright, glary (?), and white/blue, they hopefully will nicely augment my triangle of light.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: PaulP on June 27, 2014, 12:48:18 pm
I'm always wary of putting these kind of lights on the front of any on-road vehicle. They are not designed for that purpose and can cause a lot of glare for oncoming drivers, even in daylight if they are bright enough. I actually do know someone that put high output floods on the front of his car because of the dark back roads he often drives. He wanted to be able to see deer and other wildlife far out in front of him and off to the sides. I understand his reasoning, but he was ticketed for having illegal lights. I think it was a $250 fine or something like that. After that incident he didn't take them off, but did run them through a switch so they don't run all the time. Now he only uses them on those back roads, although he admits he sometimes forgets he has them on when he gets back on a main road or goes in town. Amazingly he has only been flashed a couple of times. I think that's because so many cars have HIDs and other very bright lights these days that most people think it's normal to be a bit dazzled by oncoming traffic once in a while. It's not, and I will flash people that have obviously "upgraded" their lighting to illegal levels. But I'm in the minority. Most people where I live won't complain even if you are quite obnoxious. It's called "Minnesota Nice", but I call it "Minnesota Wimp".
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: WillyP on June 27, 2014, 09:47:55 pm
I don't often buys LED's but when I do... http://www.superbrightleds.com/ (http://www.superbrightleds.com/)
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Pierre1960 on May 23, 2018, 03:07:26 pm
Hi!

I was wondering about the vibration if the Aux lights are installed on the bottom section of the shock-absorber.
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Daboo on May 23, 2018, 03:21:23 pm
My current bike has them installed on the forks and the lights are working fine.

I highly recommend ADVMonster for LED auxiliary lights.  The quality is excellent and the prices are really inexpensive.  They have a thread over on ADVRider and there's a lot of satisfied customers there.

Chris
Title: Re: recommend LED aux lights?
Post by: Boomer on May 24, 2018, 08:55:06 pm
I bought these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-10W-Bright-Cree-LED-Car-Motorcycle-Work-Driving-Fog-Light-Spot-Beam-Lamp/263572417463?epid=24017221311&hash=item3d5e23ebb7:g:GQMAAOSwQKBaukor (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-10W-Bright-Cree-LED-Car-Motorcycle-Work-Driving-Fog-Light-Spot-Beam-Lamp/263572417463?epid=24017221311&hash=item3d5e23ebb7:g:GQMAAOSwQKBaukor)

Yes, they are cheap, but I have 4 of them and not one has leaked or failed on me in 4 years of English weather and 2 crashes.
I have 2 mounted to the mirror brackets wired to come on with high beam, and 2 mounted to the forks wired to be on with low and high beam. The low ones are aimed to not dazzle other road users but the high ones are set for distance.

I also have a pair of LED strips mounted on the front of the forks wired to be on all the time.

Combined with an LED headlamp bulb the lights are better than my C14s, which ain't bad for a 29 year old machine.  :)