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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2011, 12:55:13 am »
I've had "the law" follow behind me on my ride home from work, and
I wasn't pulled over.  I guess in Florida they're so impressed with a helmet
that everything else is moot!
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2011, 12:56:07 am »
>:D Not to rain on the parade but isn't "white" reflectors in the rear illegal? Not that being seen should be bad, I converted my rear signals into amber running lights and that is illegal here in Oregon. I only need to unplug them if stopped without affecting my signals. For what it's worth I have bought some red and amber reflector tape that I will add to my bike when it warms up. I really like the black in day tape, is there any that reflects red or amber?

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In Washington State, white visible from the rear is not legal.  Anything visible from the rear or from the side towards the rear, must be red, from the side towards the front must be yellow, from the front white is OK.  However, I've been tailgated down the highway many, many, many times by every flavor of LEO and none have stopped me to object.  If they did, I would challenge it with the court since my riding jackets have reflective stripes that are white, semi-trailers use red/white reflective strips in various places, etc.  I think that there are enough riders who use this stuff, and the safety benefits being so obvious that they just chose not to ticket people for it.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2011, 01:57:03 am »
I guess in Florida they're so impressed with a helmet that everything else is moot!
I never really have any problems with the law, and it's hardly as if I never see them.  Part of it is probably because I got the crazy-stupids out of my system years ago.  But I suspect that more of it is that I don't really look the part of a maniac.  I'm riding a motorcycle, but it's hardly a Harley.  I always wear the protective gear, even when it's blazing hot outside - in fact I have special warm-weather gear just as northern folks have special cold-weather gear.

I just don't look the part of a motorcycle outlaw anymore, and I don't really DO much of anything outside the law, so they leave me alone.

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2011, 04:52:21 am »
In Washington State, white visible from the rear is not legal.  Anything visible from the rear or from the side towards the rear, must be red, from the side towards the front must be yellow, from the front white is OK. 
I would bet that the law regarding that is specific to lights, and not to reflectors.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2011, 06:16:14 am »
I would bet that the law regarding that is specific to lights, and not to reflectors.
In Florida you may legally only run red lights in the back, except for the license plate illumination which must be white.  That said, most cars here run both red and amber in the rear (just like Connie) and nobody seems moved to cite every other vehicle on the road. 

As an odd aside, many police forces in the state have gone with the BMW K-biles, which also sport red and amber on the rear.

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2011, 01:50:30 am »
So I took it up a notch after seeing everyone's "imaginitive" conspicuity solutions.

Like I mentioned, trying to remain tasteful, so I cut some 3M reflective strips down
to pinstriping width, and took an idea from Rick3foxes (thanks Rick).  The pictures
I took really don't show it well, but it shows well with headlights.

No Flash:





With Flash:





I think my next project will be auxillary lighting up front.  Santa was nice enough
to order Murph's "No Buzz" kit, with grips, so that leaves me a little cash to
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2011, 03:24:39 am »
Ok, I did a little checking. In Oregon the code 816.180 states that rear and side to the rear reflectors are to be red. And the front and front side are to be amber. I would try and argue that being more seen is more important then the color of the reflector.

D*mn, spent part of today looking at pics of the bike figuring where I would put reflecting tape on. Had a nice spot surrounding the tail light all picked out. May still go with white on the sides. I really wanted the black in day look too.

Dean.

Checked on Florida, same as Oregon. Code is 316.224.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2011, 10:51:18 am »
Does the code preclude having reflective tape of a different color?
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2011, 01:47:40 am »
Here are some informative links.  While I try to be law-abiding, I also want to stay alive.  As I posted before, I know the white refelctive tape is not legal in Washington, but the LEO's have never stopped me.  Links below are informative.  The first one takes you to laws for different states, then some Washington codes, and text of the applicable Washington code.  Check your own state.

http://www.wykedilluzionz.com/laws/

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.110

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.060

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.100


RCW 46.37.100
Color of clearance lamps, side marker lamps, back-up lamps, and reflectors. 

(1) Front clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the front or on the side near the front of a vehicle shall display or reflect an amber color.

     (2) Rear clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear or on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color.

     (3) All lighting devices and reflectors mounted on the rear of any vehicle shall display or reflect a red color, except the stop lamp or other signal device, which may be red, amber, or yellow, and except that on any vehicle forty or more years old, or on any motorcycle regardless of age, the taillight may also contain a blue or purple insert of not more than one inch in diameter, and except that the light illuminating the license plate shall be white and the light emitted by a back-up lamp shall be white or amber.

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2011, 01:58:03 am »
You can also swap your side panel and luggage reflectors for lighted reflectors.  Mine are set-up to flash alternately with the turn signals.  Pics attached.

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2011, 07:45:16 am »
@Nosmo: What are the bag lights and where did you find them?
>I have DOT white on my front forks, like McFly
>DOT red and white cut to fit inside the aluminum band on the back of the bags. Inner white, outer red. Like 2Linby
>Also replaced the front reflectors with lights from Murph. They function as both running and turn signals.
>Electrical connection turn signal converters on the rear with amber lamps and clear lenses
>Extra center reflector on Givi. Like John Atkinson
>Red reflective tape in crease of Givi (E45) Over the top
>Red reflective tape around edge of Givi mount
>Red reflective tape around black powder-coated rims
>Wig Wag
>I run bright headlight in daytime.
>Red reflective piping on Helmet.
>All jackets have some kind of reflective strips or piping as do air pants.

I want to add reflective tape down the side pinstripes, like McFly. And Nite Brite panels like several others. (My son has em and the are bright!) and HID's
After being rear-ended last fall I want to be SEEN!

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2011, 03:13:14 pm »
Looks like stock reflector with a bulb added behind it... I seem to recall a thread about doing that some time ago, not sure if it was this forum or the other one.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2011, 10:40:57 pm »
Sooooo, to shed a little more light on this "what's legal" issue, I stopped at a 7-11 today, and lo-and-behold, a
Deputy Sheriff was getting coffee, so I had to ask him about the whole conspicuity reflector issue.

I found out that MOST law enforcement will not pull over a motorcycle with ADDITIONAL reflective tape
regardless of color (blue withstanding, as it's an emergency vehicle color).  The key here is ADDITIONAL.
Minimum requirement equipment MUST meet safety codes.  So as long as you have the required red rear,
red rear side, front yellow side reflectors, you comply with the law.  The reflectors can not impair a clear
view of the brake light, turn signal indicators or marker reflectors.... obviously.

Stay away from any flashing/strobe lights used as marker lighting, and stay away from blue anything, as it's
reserved for law enforcement (here in FL anyway).  Additional lighting must meet color requirements.

The general consensus I got was, it's OK to make your bike more visible, just don't remove/change existing
marker reflectors to teal, fuscia, or magenta, etc... He said he would not bother a bike with white
reflective tape, as it's similar to rider wearing a reflective vest with white tape.

I thought was worth mentioning.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2011, 01:43:26 am »
Most LEO's aren't gonna bother you unless you're doing stupid stuff anyway(Outlaw look/mods/noise notwithstanding!). Making the bike more visible probably won't get you a roadside meeting if you act reasonably sensible!

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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2011, 06:16:48 am »
haileymon:

Bag Lights:

2-pack    1 1/4 x 3 1/2 Reflector lights     P/N 16-107R       

from www.wingman.com        $ 42.25

On the package the brand name is SHOW CHROME ACCESSORIES / BIG BIKE PARTS  (made in Taiwan)  I've seen this brand in a  couple of bike shops, and on the internet.  They might be available cheaper from someone else, I just got them from this guy at a show in the spur of the moment.

You can wire them in in parallel so they work with your side marker lights.  They are an exact fit for the locations for the OEM reflectors, when installed you can't tell the difference. Also available in yellow.
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Re: Trying to make my Connie more visible at night... tastefully.
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2011, 05:39:53 pm »
I also found them here too.

http://www.addonaccessories.net/shop_details.asp?cat=lighting&prod=LED+LIGHT+REFLECTOR
also if you have time this site has a ton of stuff too.
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Ftruck_lights.htm#st I've ordered from here before with no issue
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