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Offline Solomookie

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Upper Fairing Extender?
« on: November 25, 2015, 12:37:14 am »
I am super impressed with the job my fairing extenders do of protecting my legs and feet from the cold.  So it got me to thinking about the upper area of the fairing.  Has anyone tried to create the same sort of deflector for up around the mirror area?  The area in red is what I'm thinking about.  Excuse the crudeness of the illustration; I'm on my home computer so my graphic manipulation options are limited.



I'm thinking that if I could make the air bubble a bit wider at the top of the fairing, I could get away with less clothes.  I haven't even had to add the liner to my armored pants yet because of the fairing extenders.  The Madstad does a good job of keeping the breeze off my body and face, but my arms still catch it on the blow around.

So, with all the innovative thinkers we have on these boards; has anyone come up with a workable solution or at least a concept so I don't have to start from scratch?

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 01:42:00 am »
I'd say you've done a fine job already, what's the problem?  :)) :))

Oh, by the way, I think you need to try again on that paint job on your extenders! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 06:14:34 pm »
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I think that's a great idea. With the expertise in this group, I'm sure some one will have an idea how to fabricate the upper extender. I'm not a fabricator, but this gets me to thinking....
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2015, 04:55:51 pm »
Another idea might be to make a single panel and test it out.  Something like this would simplify mounting since the same windshield holes could be reused.  I think it'd be stronger than trying to make mounts for separate wings on each side.   Making it out of the same material as the windscreen would make it almost invisible.    It wouldn't be flat like my horrible drawing, but would have the same arch as the fairing.  Removal would be a snap too. 

Patent pending: :))

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2015, 01:20:07 pm »
You might have something there, Notime.  My thoughts were on wings for each side, but a single wing should be easier to mount, especially if like you say, the windshield mounting holes are used. 

The Post Office lost the Nissin calipers that I was planning on installing today, so I have time to direct my energies toward this mod.  I recall guys saying they bought sheets of lexan or whatever to custom make windshields.  Anyone suggest the best / cheapest place to buy it? 
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2015, 01:31:18 pm »
The Madstad looks sorta flat and looks to clear the mirror mounts, what about making a winter screen with a little more width at the mirror area. I wonder if Madstad would be interested in making a winter screen.
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2015, 02:44:22 pm »
McMaster Carr is the place to buy Lexan.

But as Bob said... perhaps you could float this idea with Madstrad and see if they could make an extra wide windshield that would incorporate the wings one piece with the shield?

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 12:56:57 am »
Okay...  Here's what I came up with.  I purchased a 4' x 1' sheet of polycarbonate online.  It was only $11 something, but because of the size they charged another $17 something to get it to me.  So investment: just under $30.

I started out cutting a template out of the shipping carton it came in.  Got a rough idea of what I wanted, and then traced the cut line on to the protective sheeting of the poly.  This stuff cuts very nice; no splintering.  I used a recip saw.  It took me about 7 cuts total to get it how I wanted it (or at least close).  Here's a picture from the front with the protective covering on so you can see where the deflector is.



Here's a shot from the back.



And here are front and back views of the final installation. 





Pictures never come out very well in a garage at night, but you get the idea.  I won't have a chance to test it outside for a few days yet because an issue with incompatible thread patterns made it impossible for me to complete my 4 pot calipers changeover until a new double banjo bolt arrives (subject for another post). Riding without front brakes... not a good idea. 


I think it will work out okay.   :whoo:
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 12:50:46 pm »
Good work!  Just think how helpful it would be to have access to a wind tunnel!  :))

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 01:14:50 pm »
Nice. You'll be riding comfortably in sub-artic climates, watch out for ice.  :rotflmao:

With all that extra weight and wind force, I hope your upper fairing stay mounting bracket is up to snuff. They have been known to break.
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 02:47:32 pm »
With all that extra weight and wind force, I hope your upper fairing stay mounting bracket is up to snuff. They have been known to break.

Yeah; I'm a little concerned with the affect of wind forces.  I'm only adding about 60 sq. inches of surface, but we all know how strong the force of wind can be.  The weight itself is negligible; not more than about 1 pound, and it is secured at 6 points across at least 160 sq. inches.  My concern is focused more on the mounting brackets and base of the Madstad than the upper fairing mounting bracket, but both are legitimate concerns.

Considering how much of a difference the 2 inch (or so) lip of the lower fairing extender makes in the air bubble, I am considering cutting down the size of the "wings".  They probably would not need to be as tall, or extend so far over the mirrors, to change the bubble the way I want.  I'll do a little more thinking on it.

I'm pleased with the appearance, and I believe the concept itself is sound and will make cold weather riding more comfortable.  Just might need a bit more tweaking. 

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 03:33:40 pm »
Looks great!  :great:  I had similar thing in mind when I had my C10 but didn't have time for it. Once you have it nailed down, might want to start selling to folks, could be an interest!  >:D
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 06:17:03 pm »
Only thing I would suggest is to round out those sharp ends , in case God forbid, you have a wreck . Those might hurt .
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2015, 05:19:16 pm »
GO AIR FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!  :great:
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 02:26:31 am »
Still waiting on the banjo bolt, so I messed with the extender again.  I shortened the wings, and rounded the edges (good call, cra-z1000).  I'm pleased with the way it came out.  Keep in mind, I am not a "work with my hands" guy, and am a truly mediocre mechanic.  So anything that works out close to what I tried to do is a pleasant surprise!



 
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2015, 03:00:16 pm »
I've finally had some opportunities to ride in colder weather with the new extender.  I am very pleased with it.  Both the hands and arms are better protected from the breeze.  There might be just a touch more shimmy when you get up around 90 mph, but wind and truck buffeting have never bothered me so to me it is well worth it for the extra cold protection.  I have mine secured at six points, and its removal in spring will only take about 5 minutes.

In case anyone wants to try their hand at it, here is the website where I got the polycarbonate sheet:  www.onlinemetals.com .  I started with a 1' x 4', 0.11" thick sheet.  It is easy to cut, and does not splinter.  I just received an e-offer from them.  The promo code WA4SVQ will get you 5% off your order.  Just a nod to the legendary frugality of COG Nation.
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2016, 07:09:52 am »
Solomookie,The Wizard here.Hey I was on a ride with a friend on his K1200BMW,anyway you should look at them for an idea about the upper fairing extender.They have exactly what you are describing. Just looked at your last pic,that's it what they look like.Except they don't go all the way across."If you build it they will buy".   The Wizard
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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2016, 08:38:22 am »
Love the sticker  :)

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2016, 02:45:17 pm »
Love the sticker  :)

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2016, 04:01:35 pm »
Love the sticker  :)
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Actually Mo, that logo is etched into the interior side of the windshield; it's not a sticker.  Madstad is the bomb! 

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Re: Upper Fairing Extender?
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2016, 05:07:42 pm »
Hey SOLO ever think about hand guards?  If I can find my pictures I'll post them.  Work great for the rain.  Wind ahhhh not so great.
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