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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2014, 03:27:09 pm »
Probably because they are on Photo-bucket, which has been known to have malicious content.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2014, 01:09:58 am »
Hey LessPaul, So they are blocking photo downloads at work....then they are probably logging the sites you go to. Hope they like you there at work...too much time on those dirty forums can get you in trouble with the boss.

Only small companies with inexperienced IT (or businesses with a need to track) actually track where you go - it's a LOT of data which can then be used to blame the company for not preventing you doing something immoral/illegal because then the company "knew" and could've done something. I've had the misfortune of working with this type of company (the "likes to track you" ones - then they use the data in the most crappy ways, even give it to managers to use in performance reviews...sigh)...most other companies just block stuff using a specialized firewall/router that receives updates from a vendor which produces a list of "known naughty sites".

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2014, 12:10:57 am »
 Well, I couldn't make time to finish my billet mounts so I fabbed up a light bar real quick.
 I used a 24" piece of 7/8 stainless tubing that I picked up at a local machine shop for cheap, 2 stainless 1/4-20x3/4 socket head capscrews with lock washers, and 2 6mmx1.25 by 60mm sainless bolts.
 I cut the material into one 19" piece and two 1-1/4" pieces. The two short pieces were notched on one end with a holesaw then welded on to the bar 4-1/4" from center of 19" bar. Drilled and tapped a 1/4-20 hole on both ends to mount the lights.
 I'm happy with how it turned out. I have not wired lights back up because I'm waiting for a weather tight socket plug so that they can be removed to remove the plastecs for maintenance. I also have a couple of bar end sliders I am going to use to plug the ends of the bar.
















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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2014, 01:13:59 am »
Hey Big C,

I agree that turned out pretty darn sweet. Now you have to admit, looking at that table and those boots in the picture that wasn't your first welding job now was it.

You better be careful or you are going to be spending all your weekend welding instead of riding if too many people see this.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2014, 01:19:50 am »
The way he assembled it, with through bolts, it could have been done without welding.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2014, 02:12:54 am »
Hey Big C,

I agree that turned out pretty darn sweet. Now you have to admit, looking at that table and those boots in the picture that wasn't your first welding job now was it.

You better be careful or you are going to be spending all your weekend welding instead of riding if too many people see this.
No Murph, it wasn't my first welding job. Working in industrial maintenance I get to weld a lot. I would love to have a little 110V welder to use around the house for these little projects, I welded this one up on my lunch break at work with a huge 480 stick welder, even with this unit turned all the way down I had to be real careful not to blow straight through this tubing.
  By the way, I can knock a few of these out pretty quick if anyone would want one, cheap too. :great:

The way he assembled it, with through bolts, it could have been done without welding.

 You could do it without welding Willy P, I jist didn't like the thought of chasing three seperate pieces around everytime I remove it to work on the bike.

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2014, 02:55:32 pm »
Agreed, and I didn't mean to criticize, just pointing out this could be made without welding.


 Now, how many of these would you need to sell to pay for a little mig welder?  :))
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2014, 03:21:15 pm »
Agreed, and I didn't mean to criticize, just pointing out this could be made without welding.


 Now, how many of these would you need to sell to pay for a little mig welder?  :))

 No worries, I embrace criticism, makes for better ideas if you're open to it. ;)

 And to answer your question: not many! >:D

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2014, 06:00:59 pm »
I've got one similar that a former COG member used to make and sell, but it used square tubing for the cross bar, I want say 3/4 inch.  I see you don't have a fender extender on yours.  I do and mine rubbed on the bar.  I took the bar off, because I didn't want to chance the suspension compressing enough so the extender hooked on the bar.  Do you think an extender would hit your bar?

I've thought about taking a grinder to mine to grind off the front side of the bar where the extender hit, even grinding off through to the back side if necessary, but never got around to it.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2014, 07:36:22 pm »
I'll have to take a closer look when I get home from work. Without the extender there's plenty of room for travel, but don't want to assume it will clear the extender. If it won't clear I can design one that will. :great:

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2014, 06:27:22 am »
For my C10, I bought my LED driving lights from 24x7 DIY on the recommendation of another COGger, Bob Spine.  I bought the Quad CREE XML U2 3100Lm 12V 30Watt LED Auxiliary Light Pair [BL3000] in black for $182 in July 2012.  Certainly not as cheap as the ones from WalMart but if you want to see well at night sometimes you just have to spend the money.



They are now available for $146.  These suckers are bright so I followed Bob's recommendation and wired them with a dimmer so I can run them dimmed with the low beam or at full brightness when I flip on my high beam. 

I've also got a similar set (Model 60) I bought from ADVMonster in August 2013 on my FJR. 



With the way they illuminate the road, these puppies made riding at speed on I-40 through the Smokies from Tennessee into Maggie Valley, NC at 1 AM a lot of fun. 

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2014, 11:53:02 pm »
Hey Big C

I know you get what you pay for, but I had my daughters jeep that needed some welding (hadn't done any since I was early 20s some 30+ years prior. I bought one of the little wire feeds they sell at Harbor Freight on a sale for $90 bucks. I figure what the heck if it didn't work I would take it back, if it did I would save myself $500 over what the guy wanted to do the job for me. Both of the tube that make of the frame where the belly pan/cross member part that goes under the transmission was showing signs of rust with one side worse. Needed to cut out the bottom part of the frame and replace it with a new piece with nuts welded in place for the cross member.

I can't remember what the gauge was but fairly thick. That little welder did a great job of laying down a line of weld with great penetration. I did use some Lincoln wire from HD instead of the wire that came with it. Anyway it would be a great little welder for projects like your light bar. I see one in my near future. I already have some lights the PO had on the side panels and I didn't like the way they were mounted.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2014, 01:11:44 am »
For my C10, I bought my LED driving lights from 24x7 DIY on the recommendation of another COGger, Bob Spine.  I bought the Quad CREE XML U2 3100Lm 12V 30Watt LED Auxiliary Light Pair [BL3000] in black for $182 in July 2012.  Certainly not as cheap as the ones from WalMart but if you want to see well at night sometimes you just have to spend the money.



They are now available for $146.  These suckers are bright so I followed Bob's recommendation and wired them with a dimmer so I can run them dimmed with the low beam or at full brightness when I flip on my high beam. 

I've also got a similar set (Model 60) I bought from ADVMonster in August 2013 on my FJR. 



With the way they illuminate the road, these puppies made riding at speed on I-40 through the Smokies from Tennessee into Maggie Valley, NC at 1 AM a lot of fun. 



 Those are nice! Maybe I can talk the wife into buying me some! :)

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2014, 01:14:18 am »
Hey Big C

I know you get what you pay for, but I had my daughters jeep that needed some welding (hadn't done any since I was early 20s some 30+ years prior. I bought one of the little wire feeds they sell at Harbor Freight on a sale for $90 bucks. I figure what the heck if it didn't work I would take it back, if it did I would save myself $500 over what the guy wanted to do the job for me. Both of the tube that make of the frame where the belly pan/cross member part that goes under the transmission was showing signs of rust with one side worse. Needed to cut out the bottom part of the frame and replace it with a new piece with nuts welded in place for the cross member.

I can't remember what the gauge was but fairly thick. That little welder did a great job of laying down a line of weld with great penetration. I did use some Lincoln wire from HD instead of the wire that came with it. Anyway it would be a great little welder for projects like your light bar. I see one in my near future. I already have some lights the PO had on the side panels and I didn't like the way they were mounted.

 I've been considering that one, was wondering about it's capabilities though. Thanks for shedding some light. :great:

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2014, 02:04:47 pm »
I'm looking to put some LEDs on my bike to supplement the inadequate low beam.  My bike is a commuter and as we enter into winter again, I find myself riding in the dark - often morning and night - for about 30 miles on city road and freeways.  I've got my Hella FF50's for out in the country, but they're too bright for city night use with other cars on the road. 

Do any of these low-dollar LEDs put out enough light to be helpful at 70 mph, but not too ridiculously bright to be used in traffic?  I realize the biggest difference between low and high dollar lights will be the optics (reflector and lens).  Many bright LEDs just scatter light rather than having a defined beam and/or cutoff.  Okay on the farm, not so much on Main Street.

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2014, 04:48:14 pm »
I'm looking to put some LEDs on my bike to supplement the inadequate low beam.  My bike is a commuter and as we enter into winter again, I find myself riding in the dark - often morning and night - for about 30 miles on city road and freeways.  I've got my Hella FF50's for out in the country, but they're too bright for city night use with other cars on the road. 

Do any of these low-dollar LEDs put out enough light to be helpful at 70 mph, but not too ridiculously bright to be used in traffic?  I realize the biggest difference between low and high dollar lights will be the optics (reflector and lens).  Many bright LEDs just scatter light rather than having a defined beam and/or cutoff.  Okay on the farm, not so much on Main Street.
 
Wiring in a dimmer for use with your Hella FF50's might be an easier solution for you.  If the dimmer won't work with the FF50's you could always add LEDs with a dimmer.  The LEDs I'm using have a flood light pattern with no defined beam cutoff.  I've had no indication that when dimmed with the low beam that they are a problem from the other drivers on the road.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2014, 05:20:40 pm »
By the time you spend money and time on a dimmer, you may as well buy lights with the correct cutoff. Check out the LED "fog lights" at ADVMonster.com for $110.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2014, 01:27:03 am »
By the time you spend money and time on a dimmer, you may as well buy lights with the correct cutoff. Check out the LED "fog lights" at ADVMonster.com for $110.

 I agree with PaulP on this one, $110 is pretty cheap for a good set of LED Driving/fog lights. My Wally World lights are no good at helping me see at night but do help me be seen, which is what I was going for. I do believe I will be trying the ADVmonster.com lights very soon though. >:D

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2014, 04:32:31 am »
By the time you spend money and time on a dimmer, you may as well buy lights with the correct cutoff. Check out the LED "fog lights" at ADVMonster.com for $110.

The LED Fog Lights could work as a supplement to TinDog's Hella FF50's.  But anyone who doesn't already have some good driving lights on their C10, would be better off going with a bright set of the LED Flood lamps and a dimmer for night riding.  That way they could really light up the road when they need to and still avoid creating problems for on coming drivers in traffic.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2014, 05:09:11 pm »
I've got one similar that a former COG member used to make and sell, but it used square tubing for the cross bar, I want say 3/4 inch.  I see you don't have a fender extender on yours.  I do and mine rubbed on the bar.  I took the bar off, because I didn't want to chance the suspension compressing enough so the extender hooked on the bar.  Do you think an extender would hit your bar?

I've thought about taking a grinder to mine to grind off the front side of the bar where the extender hit, even grinding off through to the back side if necessary, but never got around to it.

 Hey Bill, I looked real closely at the bar last night and it looks as though the fenda-extenda would not cause a problem. I'll tape up some card board to resemble the extender since I don't have one and get some pictures for you.

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2014, 11:54:54 am »
Wiring in a dimmer for use with your Hella FF50's might be an easier solution for you.  If the dimmer won't work with the FF50's you could always add LEDs with a dimmer.  The LEDs I'm using have a flood light pattern with no defined beam cutoff.  I've had no indication that when dimmed with the low beam that they are a problem from the other drivers on the road.[/font][/size]



Thanks for the diagram 528.  Are these dimmers generic electronic or auto store stuff, or are they something motorcycle specific?  Remember, C10 owners are like KLR 650 owners, but just go faster.  In other words, I'm trying to come up with something that's cheap and good enough, rather than pricey and ideal.   ;)     

There are a lot of cheap affordable 15° LED spots on Amazon that are supposedly rated IP67.  I've already got Murph's headlight wiring upgrade in place, so some of my relay and wiring issues are already taken care of.  I just don't want to find myself spending $80 for a switch and dimmer to turn on a pair of $40 lights.

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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2014, 12:10:29 pm »
You could just use a switch to put them in series, instead of parallel, to dim them. Try them is series first, before you go through wiring them up, to see if that's the right amount of dimming. Probably a couple bucks for a toggle at Radio Shack, or get a fancy waterproof rocker for a little more: Paneltronics Contura Rocker Switch Waterproof - Star Marine Depot

A single double pole, double throw, center-off switch could turn them on and off as well as dim them. You would also have to isolate the ground on one of them.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2014, 04:23:15 pm »
Good luck with that. It's not as easy as just reducing the voltage (by putting them in series) to dim an LED. Most likely it will either have no effect or they will not turn on at all. Depends on how they are designed. LEDs are current driven devices, not voltage like incandescents. Generally to dim an LED you need to PWM it. So yeah, to dim your $40 lights you will probably need  a $80 dimmer.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2014, 06:54:19 pm »
I love this little switch/dimmer/bypass I got with my advmonster lights.

http://stores.advmonster.com/rotary-led-dimmer-with-high-beam-bypass/

Not only allows you to dim the LED, but automatically goes to FULL when you switch to high beams.
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Re: Wal-Mart LED's
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2014, 09:12:54 pm »
I went with this dimmer on my FJR.  It was the frugal alternative from ADVMonster and also has the high beam bypass.

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