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Windshield options
« on: January 09, 2013, 01:35:42 am »
I'm putting the final touches on my 94.  I bought the cee baileys  tallest screen.  I'm 6'3 and I use a Russell day long saddle.  The 26.6 cee baileys is too short.  The wind hits me in the top of the head.   I'm trying to figure out what screen to use.  The rifle with 19" is almost too short. I had it on my 93.  But will work if I have too.  What do you guys think?

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 01:55:56 am »
Get a custom cut shield for the Rifle base.
Sounds like 21" would work for you.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 04:17:58 pm »
Get a custom cut shield for the Rifle base.
Sounds like 21" would work for you.
+1  I'm 6'1" and the 19" Rifle is a little too short for me, too.  Broke the shield in a (fortunately) slow crash and am going to replace it with a taller one this spring.  It is supposed to be easy to cut your own for the Rifle bases, so I might try that first, just to get the height right.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 03:42:27 am »
 Several years and three Connies ago used a Slipstreamer w/s made for a 83 GW Interstate (JCW) with the the lower edge cut to fit the Rifle base.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 11:45:55 am »
Another option is to have a couple of windscreens you can use. I use two different CB's, a shorter, narrower one in warm weather and a taller, wider one for the winter which naturaly is on now. works pretty good and it's nice to have options. They're easy to cut by taping em up with masking tape and using a fine tooth blade on a bandsaw and have a wooden block underneath while you're cutting it.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 12:26:33 pm »
I'm 6'3 and I use a Russell day long saddle.  The 26.6 cee baileys is too short.  The wind hits me in the top of the head.   I'm trying to figure out what screen to use.  What do you guys think?

I'm at 6'4", and I'm hesitant to get a windscreen for this very reason.  I've seen some recommend a Laminar Lip
to direct the air up, there's also a trim that goes around the perimeter of the windshield to deflect air.

I'll probably get the tallest rifle they make, and cut my OEM down for a summer screen.  It seems pretty popular.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2006, 06:13:34 pm »
I'm 6'05" and when I purchased my bike it had the tallest CB Shield.  For my height it was to low, and for my taste the CB swept back to far.  I sold the CB and purchased a Rifle with a custom height.  I can't remember how tall I had it made, but it is plenty high and is more up right which is perfect for me.  I do have GL1200 bars on my bike and I sit in a completely upright position using a Russel seat.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 02:09:20 am »
I'm at 6'4", and I'm hesitant to get a windscreen for this very reason.  I've seen some recommend a Laminar Lip
to direct the air up, there's also a trim that goes around the perimeter of the windshield to deflect air.

I'll probably get the tallest rifle they make, and cut my OEM down for a summer screen.  It seems pretty popular.

McFly - I was also thinking of cutting off 4-5 inches off my OEM windscreen.
Just a little below the flipped-up top edge.  Have you done this?  How'd it
work out?  Thanks ~ John in Kent, WA.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 02:32:51 am »
John,
I did that to mine and it made for a quieter, less turbulent, ride. I cut more from the center than the sides to give it a swept-back look. Only bad thing is I have to cleany faceshield now from bugs. There is also less wind protection for cold mornings, but so far I've survived  :great:

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2014, 03:12:14 am »
I'm 6'1" and I installed a tall Rifle, but I can't remember the exact height.  I subsequently cut it down a bit.  I took off a little at a time until I got it where I want it.  I think I took off a total of about 2 -1/2 inches.  The top edge is just below my sight line so I look over it. Everyone wants something different.  The nice thing about the Rifle is that it is only a single curve.  It is straight top-to-bottom so it is easy to cut down.

I used my old Connie 'shield (actually a Givi replacement, but same size and shape as the OEM unit, just tinted dark grey) to make a 'shield for my Wee-Strom.  On that bike, combined with a Madstad adjustable bracket, it works perfectly for me.  I had to cut it all around, but the main thing was to get rid of that stupid flip on the top edge.  That flip is what causes most of the turbulence.  If I was going to experiment, I think I'd trim that off and see how it works.  A lot of times a shorter windshield feels smoother than a taller one, why I don't know.

There are many things that  affect how the 'shield works for you.  Your height, arm length (distance from the 'shield), type of helmet, etc.  I ride with the face shield of my Shoei RF1000 open and I wear safety glasses to protect my eyes.  I find that very smooth and quiet.  If I closed the face shield on the helmet, it makes more noise (resonates) and I sense more turbulence, and I just don't like it.  I think the open face shield acts as a spoiler to direct the airflow smoothly over the top of the helmet.  But that may not work for other people.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 01:00:44 pm »
I'm at 6'4", and I'm hesitant to get a windscreen for this very reason.  I've seen some recommend a Laminar Lip
to direct the air up, there's also a trim that goes around the perimeter of the windshield to deflect air.

I'll probably get the tallest rifle they make, and cut my OEM down for a summer screen.  It seems pretty popular.

McFly - I was also thinking of cutting off 4-5 inches off my OEM windscreen.
Just a little below the flipped-up top edge.  Have you done this?  How'd it
work out?  Thanks ~ John in Kent, WA.

Actually, my final decision was a new entry into the windshield market the Madstad.
With the adjustability the new shield offers, The OEM screen never got a second look.   :(

Having said that, a lot of people have cut down the factory shield to increase comfort,
as has been mentioned.  Worst case scenario... if it doesn't work out, there's lots of
OEM screens out there to replace it with!
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 08:21:58 pm »
What's been your experience with the Madstad so far? How's the turbulence and general noise level compared to your stock windscreen?
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 09:12:27 pm »
What's been your experience with the Madstad so far? How's the turbulence and general noise level compared to your stock windscreen?

The difference is HUGE

First look at the rider...  6'4" tall, and a long torso.  That put's my head way up there.
The OEM windscreen seemed to put turbulent air right in my face.  Riding highway speed
was not very enjoyable, even with a Shoei helmet the noise and buffeting was pretty severe.
The air turbulence in the 'cockpit' was really bad as well. 

The Madstad has eliminated the cockpit turbulence completely.  I can now ride at 70+ MPH
with my visor up comfortably, if I so chose.  I couldn't crack open the visor over 40.  Wind
would smack it shut.  Turbulence is gone, the Madstad design pushes the air up and over
my head.  If I adjust the windscreen down I get a clean blast of air in face, not a head wobbler.

There's less air noise, but some is still there.  I can hear the engine more  :motonoises: no complaints!
Overall it is quieter, though I do wear ear plugs on longer rides.

Madstad made a great product.  Yes it is pricey, but I got what I paid for.   :great:

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2014, 08:56:33 am »
I'm 6'4" and have a Rifle plus home-made screen (3mm polycarbonate).
No turbulence unless I am behind a truck or a fast van. Even then it's more noise than turbulence.
I may replace the screen soon as it's getting bad after 8 years and lots of miles.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2014, 04:57:01 pm »
What's been your experience with the Madstad so far? How's the turbulence and general noise level compared to your stock windscreen?

The difference is HUGE

First look at the rider...  6'4" tall, and a long torso.  That put's my head way up there.
The OEM windscreen seemed to put turbulent air right in my face.  Riding highway speed
was not very enjoyable, even with a Shoei helmet the noise and buffeting was pretty severe.
The air turbulence in the 'cockpit' was really bad as well. 

The Madstad has eliminated the cockpit turbulence completely.  I can now ride at 70+ MPH
with my visor up comfortably, if I so chose.  I couldn't crack open the visor over 40.  Wind
would smack it shut.  Turbulence is gone, the Madstad design pushes the air up and over
my head.  If I adjust the windscreen down I get a clean blast of air in face, not a head wobbler.

There's less air noise, but some is still there.  I can hear the engine more  :motonoises: no complaints!
Overall it is quieter, though I do wear ear plugs on longer rides.

Madstad made a great product.  Yes it is pricey, but I got what I paid for.   :great:

Thanks, Mcfly. I'm trying to figure out if my expectations for the Madstad will actually match with reality. My commute is 35 minutes of freeway and I would prefer being able to hear what's around me. However, I know that if I ride over 45mph for any length of time, I want to put in earplugs. There is also a lot of head buffeting, which is tiring and distracting.

I would like to ride without earplugs, but I'm not sure how realistic that is.  (There's also the issue of hearing damage to consider).

Are other motorcycles quieter at highway speeds than the Concours? (A Wing, for example...) I've never owned a touring bike, so have nothing to compare it to.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2014, 05:12:35 pm »
I like the way the oem looks,can't wait to see some after market ones at the national in Johnson city,maybe I will buy one after seeing it.
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2015, 05:35:16 pm »
John,
I did that to mine and it made for a quieter, less turbulent, ride. I cut more from the center than the sides to give it a swept-back look. Only bad thing is I have to cleany faceshield now from bugs. There is also less wind protection for cold mornings, but so far I've survived  :great:

Jorge

Sorry to nudge awake this dormant/ hibernating thread.

I just bought a 2001 Concours 1000, and based on my experience of riding the bike about 200 miles in the past week, would like some advise on lowering the windshield .

I have two issues with the stock shield :

1. I am 5ft 7, and the upper edge of the stock shield, intrudes directly into my line of vision. It bisects my vision at precisely that part of the road where I usually look while riding. Had the shield been about 3 inches shorter or taller, it would have fitted me perfectly.

2. I would rather lower it, than raise it, because I am used to riding with unfettered vision. Somehow looking through a windshield makes me uneasy. Moreover unlike in cars, these shields are made of different material and I feel ( rightly or wrongly ) that these do not have that clarity of sight or transparency I need. I am prepared to live with the slight discomfort of a lower shield.

3. Quite surprisingly there is a 2 inch horizontal band on my stock shield ( located about 4 inches below the top edge ) where the vision is distorted  (like in a carnival mirror you find at fairs). Surprising, because the original owner of the bike told me that this shield is all stock. ( The shield even has the presumably original "Concours Kawasaki" moniker /badge at the bottom left. So I am inclined to believe it is OEM.). Could the manufacturer have shipped out this bike with a distorted shield, or has the shield degraded over the past 14 years. Bike was garage-stored its whole life. There are no imperfections on the shield physically, the surface seems smooth and not bent etc. The distortion is probably optical only. )

If possible I would like to buy a shorter shield. Used or new. ( and preserve this carnival shield for the next owner)

I would like to chop off he existing shield only as a last resort.
Any ideas / leads will be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2015, 07:16:01 pm »
yep... get a Madstad  >:(
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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2015, 04:37:35 pm »
Thanks for the info.

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Re: Windshield options
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2015, 05:31:47 pm »
I'm 6'4" and have a Rifle plus home-made screen (3mm polycarbonate).
No turbulence unless I am behind a truck or a fast van. Even then it's more noise than turbulence.
I may replace the screen soon as it's getting bad after 8 years and lots of miles.



Hey Boomer have any issues with rain???  I made mine from polycarbonate and the rain sticks to it.  I've waxed it and all that rain stuff, stiff sticks.......  ???  I don't have the anitstatic polycarb........
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