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Offline RWJC

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WIRING: Murph's Dual headlight question
« on: January 12, 2012, 07:17:35 am »
I found out it uses an H9 bulb, not the H4. So I took some advice of a brilliant engineer (shameless plug) and want to get an HID. I went to DDMtuning.com, and found a 35w or 55w HID.

Stock bulbs is about 1000lumens. The HID is Fully digital, draws less than 6 amps at start up and 3.4 amps at normal operating temperature. This system provides 3200-3400 Lumens at 35 watts and an amazing 5000 Lumens at 55 watts.  There is a warning tho: Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area. Does anyone know if this is an issue as I do not have the unit yet, and want to order the bulb ASAP. Otherwise, I'll go with the 35W.

For the HI beam...I am going to use a Xenon bulb, non HID. What is the MAX wattage I should consider? I run the 85 or 100W in my car...but that may be a tad much???

I appreciate your time and responses!!    8)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 06:18:23 pm by RWJC »
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Re: Murph's Dual headlight question
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 07:35:04 pm »
I found out it uses an H9 bulb, not the H4. So I took some advice of a brilliant engineer (shameless plug) and want to get an HID. I went to DDMtuning.com, and found a 35w or 55w HID.

Stock bulbs is about 1000lumens. The HID is Fully digital, draws less than 6 amps at start up and 3.4 amps at normal operating temperature. This system provides 3200-3400 Lumens at 35 watts and an amazing 5000 Lumens at 55 watts.  There is a warning tho: Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area. Does anyone know if this is an issue as I do not have the unit yet, and want to order the bulb ASAP. Otherwise, I'll go with the 35W.

For the HI beam...I am going to use a Xenon bulb, non HID. What is the MAX wattage I should consider? I run the 85 or 100W in my car...but that may be a tad much???

I appreciate your time and responses!!    8)

RWJC, why would you not use an HID in the high beam as well?  Key to murph's dual-beam setup is the difference in the housings...the highbeam uses a projector-style housing.  If anything, I would think that the HID would generate LESS heat than a conventional bulb...at least I hope so, because I got HIDs for both beams in my dual-beam kit...

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Re: Murph's Dual headlight question
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 09:09:34 pm »
HIDs take a bit to get up to brightness compared to Halogen or LEDs, that is my thought.
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Re: Murph's Dual headlight question
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 09:22:33 pm »
 I like to see the HID get brighter as the bike warms. The HID isn't good for on/off Hi beam, they need to stay on all the time. Most HIDs cover or shift the lamp for Hi Low with a solenoid. 

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Re: Murph's Dual headlight WIRING question
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 06:17:53 pm »
OK, ..after much  :-[:-\ , &  >:(  finally got it all together, 1 ousted bolt, 1 missing U-Nut, and 2.6hrs later. I am leaving it apart some because the HID & Xenon lights will be here Tuesday. (Did not know it came with light bulbs)

My question is: how to hook up an HID to the LOW beam with the existing hardware from Murph's?
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Re: Murph's Dual headlight WIRING question
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 07:31:15 pm »
OK, ..after much  :-[:-\ , &  >:(  finally got it all together, 1 ousted bolt, 1 missing U-Nut, and 2.6hrs later. I am leaving it apart some because the HID & Xenon lights will be here Tuesday. (Did not know it came with light bulbs)

My question is: how to hook up an HID to the LOW beam with the existing hardware from Murph's?
If it where me I would put HID in both locations, wire the ballast for low beam to always stay on and then add the relay and high beam ballast to the  high beam switch (using the old headlight harness connection  for the signal) That way when you switch from low to high the low is always on and there is no problem with  having to wait a couple of seconds for the high to come to full brightness.
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Re: WIRING: Murph's Dual headlight question
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 08:38:18 pm »
OK, so when the HID comes in, wire it to stay on:
So it will not in ANY way be connected to to the dual setup for the headlight?

And the other plugs into the old H4 harness to use the HI switch?

Thats said I could disconnect one of the two relays from the DUAL kit, and just use the one, and If/when I decide to use a second HID, it will also plug into the HI H4 past of the original connecter? The HIDs were only $25 from DDMTuning. I got the 5000k. I can post some pics if anyone is interested.
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Re: WIRING: Murph's Dual headlight question
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 12:43:23 am »
Yes pics please! This is an upgrade I want to do eventually......Thanks
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