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Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« on: April 27, 2015, 12:36:49 pm »
This is related to the OTHER thread about LED LIGHTS, but its a different install/topic so I created another thread for this one specifically.

I searched FUSE BLOCK and all the threads were pretty old from 2011.

I want a basic fuse block to go from the battery to under seat. It needs to be small. Nothing big.  I would say nothing more than 15A is needed.

I need a couple of direct battery connection, but the Dang battery compartment is so small, and the battery terminals are not designed for this. ( Multiple connections )

So I need an accessory fuse block for an alarm system positive connection and and LED light installation that I plan to do in the future. So I dont need much more than 10amps total.

I appreciate, as usual the replies and photos if you ahve some as well as product links.  The links I've seen in searches are broken.



Something like this i like.  But I wanna see what the HIVE has installed!

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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2015, 01:09:45 pm »
While I not yet installed one in the Goblin - I used this fuse block on my ST1300 for the last 10 years

http://www.aerostich.com/auxiliary-power-fused-panel.html

Worked just fine.. Never an issue.. I ran a PowerLet plug into it that powered my GPS as well as connections for my heated grips and vest..
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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2015, 02:15:10 pm »
As cool as I think those nice fuseblocks are, I just can't justify the $$ on them, for what is relatively simple tech in my book. (Not to say others won't justify it - there are some really nice fuseblocks out there).

I just used a cheap one - like these:
http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H84960091-6-Way-Lateral-Single/dp/B000VU9D1G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1430147469&sr=8-2&keywords=fuse+block

And since I already have wire, relays, etc, my total cost was less than $10 for a 5-position fuseblock. It's mounted above the junction box to the same bracket. (sorry for lack of pic, iPad now crashes the browser when I try to attach them!...iDevices being perfect and all)

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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 02:48:02 pm »
This is why I posted here. You rock.  This is what I'm looking for. Simple.  Im not going to be drawing much current, and like you I have wiring and such to make the connections as well.  That'll fit under the seat almost anywhere too.  Probably mount in the toolbox like another member did.


Did you jumper the one side for always on? Or did you need things separated ?


As cool as I think those nice fuseblocks are, I just can't justify the $$ on them, for what is relatively simple tech in my book. (Not to say others won't justify it - there are some really nice fuseblocks out there).

I just used a cheap one - like these:
http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H84960091-6-Way-Lateral-Single/dp/B000VU9D1G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1430147469&sr=8-2&keywords=fuse+block

And since I already have wire, relays, etc, my total cost was less than $10 for a 5-position fuseblock. It's mounted above the junction box to the same bracket. (sorry for lack of pic, iPad now crashes the browser when I try to attach them!...iDevices being perfect and all)
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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 03:13:57 pm »
While I not yet installed one in the Goblin - I used this fuse block on my ST1300 for the last 10 years

http://www.aerostich.com/auxiliary-power-fused-panel.html

Worked just fine.. Never an issue.. I ran a PowerLet plug into it that powered my GPS as well as connections for my heated grips and vest..



This is a good option too but I dont need that many connections. I only need a MAX of 4.

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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2015, 03:15:05 pm »
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems-Independent-Circuit/dp/B006VELERM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1430151274&sr=8-2&keywords=blue+sea+systems+st+blade+6

I like this as well.  I can always jumper them for always ON, which is how I need it.  Gonna keep lookin !
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2015, 03:23:37 pm »
I still love my Dispatch 1, and the new Dispatch 2 (it has a new name, I forget it) is smaller and controlled by a cellphone. They offered me a D2 for half price since I was an early adopter of the D1, but I refuse to handle a cellphone while riding because so many states will ticket you big time for just touching the cellphone while operating a motor vehicle, starting with my state.

But this is overkill for a lot of people.

I had a problem in my battery compartment. I had like 6 red wires coming off the battery terminal, not counting the bike's harness wire. Had to use a longer bolt to get them all on the terminal.  :rotflmao:

Well, that just wouldn't do. So I got a nice 60A-capable 6 hole junction box (only about 2" long and 3/4" wide and 1/2" thick) and on one side I put a single heavy gauge red wire to connect to the battery. Then using the same heavy gauge wire, I stripped the insulation off of about 3" of it, and wound it from terminal to terminal to distribute the battery volts/amps to each gang terminal in the box. Meaning on the other side each terminal had battery volts/amps. Then I connected each of my existing red wires to the side opposite the feed wire. The "box" has a top which screws on, but the sides are open so the wires can get to the terminals. So I filled the sides with RTV adhesive.

This is working quite well. I have pulled the plastic upper battery cover off after riding it and running the heated seat, and the powerlet ports used for heated gear, and the Denali LED driving lights, and the Nautilus air horn, and the "box" isn't even warm, nor are the wires on either side.  :great:

I just fuse each red wire getting juice from the "box" inline, individually, because each device has its own amperage requirements.

One of the red wires goes to the Dispatch 1, so when heated seat is on, and heated gear, the Dispatch 1 is drawing a bit of juice. 
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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2015, 03:29:07 pm »

VERY COOL.

But I dont need that much hardware.  The battery compartments SUCK in the concourse.  JEESH!

So I need to reduce the direct battery terminal connections to just ONE.  I have a battery tender on it, and that was a complete pain in the BUTT CRACK.  I'm not making a hornet nest in the battery compartment.  So I'm going to re-locate things elsewhere.

I still have a spare circuit in the back, factory if I decide to use electrics.

And, I only need a spot for my alarm, the LED Lighting and I might use it for the battery tender as well.  It should be OK to charge from this same fuseblock.  The battery tender is pretty low voltage.




I still love my Dispatch 1, and the new Dispatch 2 (it has a new name, I forget it) is smaller and controlled by a cellphone. They offered me a D2 for half price since I was an early adopter of the D1, but I
refuse to handle a cellphone while riding because so many states will ticket you big time for just touching the cellphone while operating a motor vehicle, starting with my state.


But this is overkill for a lot of people.

I had a problem in my battery compartment. I had like 6 red wires coming off the battery terminal, not counting the bike's harness wire. Had to use a longer bolt to get them all on the terminal.  :rotflmao:

Well, that just wouldn't do. So I got a nice 60A-capable 6 hole junction box (only about 2" long and 3/4" wide and 1/2" thick) and on one side I put a single heavy gauge red wire to connect to the battery. Then using the same heavy gauge wire, I stripped the insulation off of about 3" of it, and wound it from terminal to terminal to distribute the battery volts/amps to each gang terminal in the box. Meaning on the other side each terminal had battery volts/amps. Then I connected each of my existing red wires to the side opposite the feed wire. The "box" has a top which screws on, but the sides are open so the wires can get to the terminals. So I filled the sides with RTV adhesive.

This is working quite well. I have pulled the plastic upper battery cover off after riding it and running the heated seat, and the powerlet ports used for heated gear, and the Denali LED driving lights, and the Nautilus air horn, and the "box" isn't even warm, nor are the wires on either side.  :great:

I just fuse each red wire getting juice from the "box" inline, individually, because each device has its own amperage requirements.

One of the red wires goes to the Dispatch 1, so when heated seat is on, and heated gear, the Dispatch 1 is drawing a bit of juice.

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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2015, 05:03:17 pm »
I mounted mine in wasted space up under front front right fairing cover.  Takes 5 seconds to get to fuses





Came out fairly nice


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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2015, 05:59:14 pm »
How will it handle water?

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How will it handle water?

It won't, its not waterproof.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2015, 07:54:55 pm »
ok I was wondering. I can't use that one there then. It will easily get wet during my vacation ride to Wyoming.


I'm really leaning towards something with 3-4 gangs, and under the seat area where it wont get drenched.


How will it handle water?

It won't, its not waterproof.

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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2015, 08:04:59 pm »
uh-huh, mine has not has a water issue in 98,000 miles. And it regularly sees it share of monsoons and FL flooding

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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2015, 08:09:16 pm »
uh-huh, mine has not has a water issue in 98,000 miles. And it regularly sees it share of monsoons and FL flooding




Yeah I figured some water would not kill it per-se.  But I won't chance it. 

If it fails, it will happen to me.


ETA: With that ahead, it's time to sit still overnight =D or don the go-go-gadget life jacket

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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2015, 08:10:16 pm »
For the simplicity, and uber low cost involved, coupled with being a very safe alternative, using a 35A 6 circuit Bussman fuseblock, placed inside the underseat tool kit, with a short multi tap terminal strip for grounds, and 2 lengthes of 10awg wire with ring lugs running right to the battery, you can accomplish all this wor less than $20.... do some searching, I posted this install years ago, I'll try to find it for you... simply pull all the fuses to keep it isolated untill you need a circuit... and you can attach and back feed the battery with a Tender right thru the block, its only 24" of wire....from the block to the batt..

http://www.amazon.com/Bussmann-BP-15600-06-20-Quick-Connect/dp/B001BXKLNQ

Available at autozone, or advance, or pepboys...








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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2015, 08:32:52 pm »
For the simplicity, and uber low cost involved, coupled with being a very safe alternative, using a 35A 6 circuit Bussman fuseblock, placed inside the underseat tool kit, with a short multi tap terminal strip for grounds, and 2 lengthes of 10awg wire with ring lugs running right to the battery, you can accomplish all this wor less than $20.... do some searching, I posted this install years ago, I'll try to find it for you... simply pull all the fuses to keep it isolated untill you need a circuit... and you can attach and back feed the battery with a Tender right thru the block, its only 24" of wire....from the block to the batt..



Yeah, I searched, and I Saw it.  But none of the product links were valid and I dont build nothin based off 4 year old posts on the internet.  But hey if it still works TODAY it must be good to go.

I took note of your install location and will do the same thing. :great: :great:

I'm just going with a much simpler and smaller 4-gang system as I dont need much amperage. 

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2015, 12:19:24 pm »
uh-huh, mine has not has a water issue in 98,000 miles. And it regularly sees it share of monsoons and FL flooding




I'm with Steve on this. I have my Fuze block mounted on the right fairing and it stays dry. Here is mine installed. It's kind of difficult to see, especially with the Rostra wedged in there also.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2015, 02:22:33 pm »
Put mine in the tool box works for me
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2015, 02:30:21 pm »
Put mine in the tool box works for me


Thats what I intend to do, with whichever I end up with.  I really dont need that many connections. BUT its nice to know it fits.  I might. It just depends on how the 4gang units end up looking to me once I get one.  50$ is not really much investment, considering.

The rub is I only need 3-4 connections.

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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2015, 02:35:59 pm »
Put mine in the tool box works for me




The rub is I only need 3-4 connections.

LOL ya you say that now......
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2015, 03:18:29 pm »
Put mine in the tool box works for me




The rub is I only need 3-4 connections.




LOL ya you say that now......

VERY TRUE.  But, at least once I have the primary wire run to the battery into the mount location, it's easy to change it out.  The only other thing I can see needing is a heated vest port. And I still have a cig plug un-used in the front, and the rear tail connection pigtails.

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2015, 05:37:54 pm »
For the simplicity, and uber low cost involved, coupled with being a very safe alternative, using a 35A 6 circuit Bussman fuseblock, placed inside the underseat tool kit, with a short multi tap terminal strip for grounds, and 2 lengthes of 10awg wire with ring lugs running right to the battery, you can accomplish all this wor less than $20.... do some searching, I posted this install years ago, I'll try to find it for you... simply pull all the fuses to keep it isolated untill you need a circuit... and you can attach and back feed the battery with a Tender right thru the block, its only 24" of wire....from the block to the batt..



Yeah, I searched, and I Saw it.  But none of the product links were valid and I dont build nothin based off 4 year old posts on the internet.  But hey if it still works TODAY it must be good to go.

I took note of your install location and will do the same thing. :great: :great:

I'm just going with a much simpler and smaller 4-gang system as I dont need much amperage.

If its worked for 4+ years, you might want to believe it still works fine today.... I wouldn't post it if it didn't..... 
The Bussmann 6 position block is $10.... at the most... the rest is simple...

Saying you only "need" 4 circuits is silly, when you get 6 in this tiny package... so you have spares.... you can use them when the time comes without additional futzing around, just plug in a fuse and go.... like when you want to add a Battery Tender, or a correctly fused lighter plug for emergency use on a tire pump, or anything you may need to plug in.... digging out the OEM accessory wires and having them dangling around still limits your amp draw to the accessory fuse, which is puny....and requires whatever you wanna plug in to bullet connectors...which I hate, I prefer insulated faston blade connectors as they are good for 20A.

Ymmv,
In the end, an accessably connection, with a relaible wire connector, that requires NO tools, and can be worked with in almost tatal darkness, simply works.
Id never bury a fused connection device up under a cover that required tools to get to, mkunted in a position that everytime you need to do something with it you have to worr about dropping something into an abbyss, including a fuse... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Re: Accessory Fuse block installations ( photo requests )
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2015, 07:50:36 pm »
I got a 4-pos on the way from amazon to check it out and decide if I want something the other member posted with some electronics. Bussman I believe is what it is. 

If it tickles me, I'll put the 4pos one in.  That will leave me with one more with nothing in it. Should be good to go.

ANd yes my battery tender leads will go to it.  I know they say to go direct to the battery, but in this application, it should be OK since the amp/volts is pretty low being applied.

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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2015, 11:37:16 pm »
I think Im going to go with the method you did  here. The ground bar you used looks like a basic one I've seen in autozone.

I used this style fuse block in an unrelated electronics project, Same brand too I Think. I never did check autozone. I will check their prices out for this one though and see if its worth the sales tax.

Did they have the grounding block ?


For the simplicity, and uber low cost involved, coupled with being a very safe alternative, using a 35A 6 circuit Bussman fuseblock, placed inside the underseat tool kit, with a short multi tap terminal strip for grounds, and 2 lengthes of 10awg wire with ring lugs running right to the battery, you can accomplish all this wor less than $20.... do some searching, I posted this install years ago, I'll try to find it for you... simply pull all the fuses to keep it isolated untill you need a circuit... and you can attach and back feed the battery with a Tender right thru the block, its only 24" of wire....from the block to the batt..



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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2015, 11:04:14 pm »
It's a bit blurry but this is what I got so far. Almost done.  Need a couple spade connectors and I can connect my alarm system and the charger, then I'll be all set for the set of LED lights I want as driving lights.  Its a bit cramped in there with the 10G wire.

I'll get some good pix after it's done and buttoned up.