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Additional Horsepower
« on: January 04, 2016, 12:49:13 am »
Ok....I've gotten my Baldwin seat and Helibars and now I'm ready for some horsepower increases. I've been looking at pipes and mapping.......does anyone have any suggestions on the best bang?

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 12:50:35 am »
From what I have been reading.... SiSF flash
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2016, 01:04:25 am »
Seconded...

Pour through some of the 'flash' threads and see what it will do for you and your needs.  It is a substantial hp gain along with economy and smoothness, especially down low.  Kind of a best bang for the buck!
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 01:17:45 am »
I'm a huge SISF flash fan.  Where in south central are you located.  If your close enough I may let you take my flashed bike for a ride.  You never know until you know.
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 01:29:44 am »
where do I find info on the SISF or their website?  thanks

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2016, 01:36:54 am »
There are also a few threads going in in the C14 tech talk and accessor sections
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2016, 01:37:49 am »
Thanks for the info thus far......I've been doing some research on the SISF.....and I must say....it sounds exactly like what i need..... NOW.....I've been looking at the Muzzy duel exhaust system.....does anyone have any opinion about that particular one or any suggestions for a system that will deliver more horses?

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2016, 02:30:13 am »
I've posted some info on exhausts previously, you may want to do a search. I will also be doing flash for the full area p system soon, if you get your bike flashed and decide you want to continue upgrading with an exhaust, I can do a reflash to support the areaP . All the info is on my site (in my sig line) thanks, Steve
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2016, 04:23:26 am »
I read a  thread the other day on this.  Another rider had their bike set up EXACTLY the way I had my previous Conny set up, which was a HUGE difference from stock.
The author spoke about how he wasn't sure what to expect, but when the flash was done, it was night and day over the flys out commander 5 and ZX header.   :o
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2016, 02:53:12 pm »
Robin,
As someone who is fairly well known around here and also has personal knowledge and experience with the SISF flash I can tell you it is the ONLY way to go. There is NOTHING on the market that is in the same universe as Steve's flash. If you want (what I am sure will be), the ULTIMATE connie experience as far as power and drivability then wait a short time longer for Steve to finish the full Area P flash. Order your full system from Area P now so it will be delivered to you in time. The sound is absolutely fantastic and the power is unreal. Once Steve is done with it I have 100% confidence it will be off the charts! I personally know Steve, consult on C14 repairs with him and have had the pleasure of hanging out with him at the JC rally 2014 as well as RWTW last fall. Totally a stand up guy. I am a power freak when it comes to bikes and currently have a Guhl Flash with a Full Area P. I can't wait to get the new mapping from Steve. I know with 100% certainty it will blow away what I am currently running.
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 06:05:22 pm »
My bike is getting a Full Area p exhaust, Woolich Racing Log Box Pro with a wideband O2 sensor.
However im not using anyone's flash. Im tuning mine on a Dyno.
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2016, 06:17:47 pm »
John,
Good luck with that. I am curious to see what top end numbers you can get. Please let me know.  I'm sure you will find a good bit of power. When you want the ultimate in drivability though you will have to tune it OFF the dyno. Too may things that the dyno will never be able to take into account. Straight line WOT power ? definitely the dyno!  Drivability? NOT A CHANCE! 
I'd like to make a gentleman's bet with you;  I have the Area P full system and a Guhl flash currently but will have the Area P SISF flash the moment it becomes available. I would be willing to bet you a beverage of your choice that once you rode my bike with the SISF flash you would be decidedly less than satisfied with your dyno tune.  Whaddaya say?  A bet? 
   NOTE: my bike also has a Traxxion/Penske suspension so you will probably become very underwhelmed with yours if you still are riding on stock parts.
and on a same gear low rpm roll on I will be ( consistently), pulling away from you! 
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2016, 06:26:03 pm »
My 2008 has a PC, flies removed and an Area P. 154 RW HP. It is 20 hp waiting for you to unleash. I'm 6"4 260 lbs and it has power to spare. I pulled a massive wheelie this past Sat night leaving a stop light a little too fast.
You can find many zx14 single side exhausts for a deal if you look around cheaper than an Area P. Hindle make some nice ones.
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2016, 08:42:37 pm »
John,
Good luck with that. I am curious to see what top end numbers you can get. Please let me know.  I'm sure you will find a good bit of power. When you want the ultimate in drivability though you will have to tune it OFF the dyno. Too may things that the dyno will never be able to take into account. Straight line WOT power ? definitely the dyno!  Drivability? NOT A CHANCE! 
I'd like to make a gentleman's bet with you;  I have the Area P full system and a Guhl flash currently but will have the Area P SISF flash the moment it becomes available. I would be willing to bet you a beverage of your choice that once you rode my bike with the SISF flash you would be decidedly less than satisfied with your dyno tune.  Whaddaya say?  A bet? 
   NOTE: my bike also has a Traxxion/Penske suspension so you will probably become very underwhelmed with yours if you still are riding on stock parts.
and on a same gear low rpm roll on I will be ( consistently), pulling away from you! 
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 09:21:26 pm »
The cool thing with a Connie is you can ride it  like an auto. I often leave stop lights in 3 or 4th gear with a little clutch work.

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 09:43:04 pm »
The cool thing with a Connie is you can ride it  like an auto. I often leave stop lights in 3 or 4th gear with a little clutch work.

Just curious as to why you would want to do such a thing?  Just more wear and tear on your clutch. 

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2016, 12:30:46 am »
+2 on Matt.  And make sure it is a straight away, you don't stand a chance on corners with him!!!!!!!!  He does not ride his machine, he is his machine when he is riding!!! 
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2016, 01:15:13 am »
The cool thing with a Connie is you can ride it  like an auto. I often leave stop lights in 3 or 4th gear with a little clutch work.
Why? I see nothing 'cool' about  prematurely and purposely  wearing out the clutch for no good reason.
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2016, 05:44:53 pm »
Ok....I've gotten my Baldwin seat and Helibars and now I'm ready for some horsepower increases. I've been looking at pipes and mapping.......does anyone have any suggestions on the best bang?

The Area P full system is known to allow a nice 16 to 20 HP increase with some tuning and reduces several pounds of weight.  But, it is a bit loud and somewhat expensive.  The Area P slip-on (and others, I suppose) add only 2 or 3 dB of sound (noticeable) and is not that costly.  It does not change back pressure enough to need a retune per Area P.  And it will give you the Standard Sportbike Sound.  My pick would be Steve's tune and a slip-on. 

You could also bash out the catalysts in the stock header. 
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2016, 12:31:30 pm »
You guys are riding the wrong bike.


Its a touring bike.

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2016, 12:52:43 pm »
You guys are riding the wrong bike.


Its a touring bike.

JTX - good thing you're not the one who decides which bike people get. On my second Connie, my closest riding buddy is on his 2nd Connie, and we love tinkering. We have tried every exhaust, seat, windshield, Guhl, SiSF, we ride a LOT, I've had every bar riser combo and pull backs - this is half the fun for me. I've been flashed twice and would do it a third time. Keeps getting better, refined, like a touring bike oughta be. These guys that talk about going fast also commute/travel/deserve the best experience. Why be negative? I average 40k miles a year, It's not a single purpose bike nor are the roads and conditions always the same. I believe I have chosen the best bike for the most broad spectrum of riding. From fully loaded and 2-up pulling into a gas station, to riding unloaded, 1-up, scraping my boots around the mountains. When I'm good and old I'll tow a dirt bike and a super-motard bike behind a Goldwing. I'm sure people will have opinions about that too!

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2016, 04:48:03 pm »
Fais, I think JTX was funnin' ya.

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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2016, 06:34:21 pm »
Connie is exceptionally versatile.  We can make anything out of her, from a Goldwing to sport bike, to a naked street bike...... 

Anyone tried a dirt bike yet?  Knobby tires and high exhaust?   ;D
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Re: Additional Horsepower
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2016, 10:38:40 pm »
Fais, I think JTX was funnin' ya.

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