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Offline freebird6

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Aeroflow Crack
« on: December 16, 2015, 11:20:24 pm »
Interesting problem. Developed a crack in my4 month old  Aeroflow while riding. Just looked down and it was there.....called Aeroflow and now I have to make a decision. They know it is a problem with the flexing brackets on the Connie and the owner was very nice to explain that it is a known problem. His offer was to return and refund 85% or have me drill the end of the crack with a 1/16th drill and use a plastic weld material. Looking for some input from the collective minds here.

I like the Aeroflow wind characteristics and turbulence better than my previous Cee Baileys but I am unsure which way to go with this .  Welcoming opinions






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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 12:42:41 am »
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I would go back to a stock windscreen.  Is this a real TALL aftermarket style?



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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 02:50:53 am »
Consider doing the stop-drilling of the crack, and then you can put a cool graphic of your choosing to cover lower area of the windscreen.   Think body-wraps on vehicles.....

Covers up unsightly crack and you get to keep that screen.   Just another opportunity to customize your bike.  Win!

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 11:03:49 am »
Consider doing the stop-drilling of the crack, and then you can put a cool graphic of your choosing to cover lower area of the windscreen.   Think body-wraps on vehicles.....

Covers up unsightly crack and you get to keep that screen.   Just another opportunity to customize your bike.  Win!
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2015, 03:51:02 am »
I have had the large aeroflow on my 14 with no issue and I live in windy Wyoming.i only raise it a couple of inches.is it possible you may have over tightened that bolt?
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2015, 01:04:22 pm »
My Aeroflow cracked in the same location.
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2015, 01:15:45 pm »
I have had the large aeroflow on my 14 with no issue and I live in windy Wyoming.i only raise it a couple of inches.is it possible you may have over tightened that bolt?

Not a chance. I put screws in delicate bones for a living. "2 finger tight" and check the torque specs on most everything I do. The owner explained in great detail why they are cracking, the material limitations, comparisons to other brands and the R&D on this. It is a known situation and has to do as much with the material, geometry of the shield and the weakness of the mounting points as anything.   I am thinking I am going to drill it and tell folks.....I love the windshield from an airflow standpoint but I would not suggest buying one as this is a pretty well known defect. Appreciate the owner getting on the phone and telling me why and offering an 85% refund.  Wish I had your experience.

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2015, 06:50:37 pm »
Well you wanted opinions, right?

If you like the screen well enough, ask the owner if he will send you a new one, maybe if you pay shipping?
Then you could try it again and use some rubber washers around the screw holes and see if that helped.  Then you would have a spare
if something worse happened (another split) or you ever had an accident etc.

I assume to get a refund you would have to pay for shipping it back - so you would be paying shipping either way.

If he refused to send you a new one just for shipping costs - I might cut my loses and get the 85% back and try a different screen.
I assume you haven't tried all the screens out there - so you might find one even better then what you have now.

Good luck with what ever you try. 

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2015, 03:55:18 pm »
Exact same issue with my Large Aeroflow...cracked at the top right mounting hole. I drilled the ends of the crack, but that did not stop it and the crack was almost to the edge of the shield when I removed it. I'm not going to bother with trying to get Aeroflow to replace it, since I was not the original purchaser, and I've heard Aeroflow is not the most customer friendly when it comes to trying to return something. Hence, him only offering 85% on something that is warrantied and they should stand behind. If they know there is an issue with it cracking, they should look at a way of fixing the product. Maybe a thicker material?

I'm thinking about adding a piece of plexiglass and screwing it to the shield to try to hold it together and cover it with a sticker.
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 04:36:15 pm »
I agree with Caffeinated. To me, a known issue with the shield means two things: A) It shouldn't be on the market until the issue is resolved (or, at the very least, not until a "buy at your own risk" notice is posted; and B) A 100% refund or free replacement should be offered for those who purchased prior to such warning and experienced the defect.

It may not be worth "going to war" with the guy over 20%, but I'm sorry...that's a short-sighted way to do business. 

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 07:52:07 pm »
I agree with Caffeinated. To me, a known issue with the shield means two things: A) It shouldn't be on the market until the issue is resolved (or, at the very least, not until a "buy at your own risk" notice is posted; and B) A 100% refund or free replacement should be offered for those who purchased prior to such warning and experienced the defect.

It may not be worth "going to war" with the guy over 20%, but I'm sorry...that's a short-sighted way to do business.

here's my take on this...
They know there is an issue, and have done nothing to prevent it, and still keep selling the same product? not too savvy in my opinion...poor business practice, and saying they will refund you some money ain't the cure...

I would re contact them, get a return shipping approval, and prepaid shipping, return it, and have them send another shield.
I say this because you like the shield.
then, when you get the shield, re-drill the mounting holes to completely clear the screws, so they do not contact the plastic. Then, using 200 grit wet sand paper, rolled into a cylinder, sand the hole, and slightly chamfer the edges on both sides...
now for the secret, with great care, use a heat gun, or even a propane torch, to heat an area about 1" in diameter around each of the modified holes. Heat the plastic enough that you begin to see a slight change in the surface and clarity, softening and allowing the plastic to re-harden has the same effect as "annealing" the material, even if it's plastic. This decreases the chance of localized stress' cracking a sharply edged drilled hole. The issue stems from flat, cold formed plastics being bent into shape with low/moderate heat, and there is still stress built into the part... couple this with the material they use being a "thermoplastic" with a high strength, when flexed changes the grain structure of the polymer at the pinch points, and especially so when the screws rub and impact the drilled holes... placing extreme stress on flexed plastic.
The process outlined should relieve these stress' and prevent fractures...

get another one from them on their dime, preemptively modify it, and you will never have an issue.

I'm an engineer, I do this stuff for a living, and having designed tons of Lexan shields for machinery I have found stress relief on bent formed, and drilled Lexan requires a bit of tender loving care.

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2016, 05:29:21 am »
I have this same shield. I mounted it onto a Madstad bracket for more air gap and the shield has held up well. However, I may have pushed the limits of the factory windshield mechanism too far. High speeds are addicting and farkles are too but they don't always mix perfectly: During a high speed run the Kawasaki windshield adjusting mechanism broke and the top of the windshield moved about three inches toward my face then stopped (thank God). When I came to a stop to check it the windshield flopped forward the same distance and stopped. After determining it was not going to fly off I eased home and took off the cowling under the windshield to look at the mechanism. The little white plastic clip was laying there below the attaching point in two pieces. The local Kawa dealer is supposed to be ordering me a warranty replacement for my 2012 C14. The white plastic guide broke and that is not a "serviceable part". $684 is the retail price to replace what is essentially a $2 plastic clip. I showed it to a friend and he built me a metal replacement clip in 30 minutes (he's a genius) and now it will last longer and endure the fulcrum pressure of the tall Aeroflow shield. The Kawa replacement may or may not be improved over the original but I'm going to have to study the whole mess to see if I am asking too much of the shield and the mounting points. One thing I was shocked by when the windshield was floppy was how much air pressure is at the top of the Aeroflow "flip" design. It works great managing the air flow but the tall shield might be beyond the engineering specs of Kawa mounting design. Especially mounted to the Madstad bracket and at 100+ mph. I'm going to mount the stock shield back on with the warranty replacement mechanism and study my options. This whole wind management issue has me re evaluating my goals. I love long distance riding. I may be asking too much of the bike. I suppose I could slow down? NAH! That's part of the fun...
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 06:28:17 pm »
What year is your bike?  I can't tell from the pics. 

On My '09, the stock screen with Projekt D's AeroWings gives excellent coverage, too much in hot weather, in fact. 
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2016, 10:40:23 pm »
Mine cracked as well, and here I thought it was just wasn't test for the higher end of triple digits. I drilled holes at the ends of ALL the cracks. Worked for a while however cracks continued pasted the holes. I went back to the Cee Bailey.
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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2016, 06:10:07 pm »
Hi all.   I just called Aeroflow to order a tall shield for my c14.  They said they only had shorter screens in stock
 would not be making any more.  I may have misinterpreted what she said but it sounded like they may be
dropping the c14.   She said they would email me about it, but have not herd back yet.   :??:

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 01:15:51 am »
Hi all again.  My bad on first post.  Aeroflow has only stop producing the Tall Windscreen, sorry for the bad info. 

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2016, 01:55:45 am »
Hi all again.  My bad on first post.  Aeroflow has only stop producing the Tall Windscreen, sorry for the bad info.

Sent mine back months ago. No response to the package with the RMA number the gave me. I called again today for the owner. "he's out riding and testing, can I take a message"......."no thanks, you have already taken 5 and he has not called back yet, I'll keep tryiing"

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Re: Aeroflow Crack
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2016, 03:11:18 am »
I hope the Puig works out for you.
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