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Offline JerBear

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Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« on: July 23, 2012, 09:09:19 pm »
I really like the sound of the stock exhaust pipe but that huge obnoxious cannon has to go!  >:(  What would be the closest to the stock sound an Area P slip on or a V&H CS one?
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 09:17:08 pm »
The Area P was pretty quiet for an aftermarket exhaust. From what I have heard on here. It sounds like the CS one is pretty loud. But like I said, I never have heard one that I know of.

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 09:33:58 pm »
There are some videos with sound on youtube.  Just do a search on youtube Concours 14 exhaust. 

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 10:56:45 pm »
There is NO sound from the stock muffler , no matter what you put on there it will be louder, ...
Put in the smallest restrictor  on a aftermarket muffler  and get over it ;)
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 03:09:58 am »
The full Muzzys dual system sounds deep like Barry White...  :great:
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 11:21:38 am »
What, the sound of little baby sewing machines, out of oem pipe. It's a big bore super bike motor, let it's Mr. Hyde out....
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 01:42:05 pm »
I just read in Popular Mechanics that some auto-makers are installing devices that re-create engine/exhaust sounds electronically. Maybe someone will do this for playback through helmet speakers.? I tried a Muzzy's and found it a little too loud, sounds good but I don't want to annoy others.
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 11:15:48 pm »
If I could find an aftermarket exhaust that was QUIETER then stock I'd install it in a heartbeat...  I want quiet for LD rides :)    Current aftermarket sounds great, but after 1k miles of that loud drone (and the needed music to drown it out) it's tiring
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2012, 07:19:22 am »
If I could find an aftermarket exhaust that was QUIETER then stock I'd install it in a heartbeat...  I want quiet for LD rides :)    Current aftermarket sounds great, but after 1k miles of that loud drone (and the needed music to drown it out) it's tiring


   Exactly!   I had the Area P stainless steel slip on. I looked great, saved weight and was actually very quiet for a slip on. But it was the slight drone on long trips that got to me. So I did go back to the howitzer. But I will say that I was amazed how much quieter the bike seemed when I reinstalled the OEM pipe. Even though it really wasn't much quieter, just the smoother tone. It's actually kind of funny, because it doesn't seem much (if any) louder than OEM when I installed the Area P.  :))

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2012, 03:09:13 pm »
On my bike at least (2009 ABS), I have a CS One, and for the rider / passenger under 30mph it is slightly louder, from 30-40 it is about the same as stock, and beyond that it is like the stock exhaust that you can't hear it over the wind / road / engine noise.

Now, for those around you, it is slightly louder at lower RPMS, but it is quite a bit louder at higher RPMs.

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In the video, on his first pass by the camera, it isn't loud. On the second, they get the engine into a high enough RPM range to hear the cam advance. When riding thru tunnels and under bridges I am surprised by how different it sounds.

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2012, 11:38:13 pm »
What, the sound of little baby sewing machines, out of oem pipe. It's a big bore super bike motor, let it's Mr. Hyde out....

No, its not a "big bore super bike motor". It is intake restricted, ECU restricted, throttlebody restricted. I would say its a big bore detuned version of a superbike motor.

A ZX14 engine is a big bore superbike motor, and responds very nicely to good aftermarket exhaust systems like the Muzzy and the Brock's Performance. Pre-2012 ZX14s have been taken past 200 rwhp on a Brock's Performance exhaust with piggy and ignition module.

You can't do that for less than twice as much money on a C14, if not three times as much. First you have to get past the variable intake cam, and smaller throttlebodies, and the smaller valves.
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 06:00:49 pm »
I went with the Vance & Hine CS one and I also went back to the OEM and my mileage is now back to what it was before I tried the aftermarket.  I actually lose a few tenths of a mile in mileage.  I know that is not much.  Then there was the backfiring when I let off.  I know that you can pinch a tube to help eliminate that but to much work.

From what I have heard if you go with the aftermarket then you should also consider remapping the ECU to get the most out of it and that is another $400.

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 07:01:50 pm »
I went with the Vance & Hine CS one and I also went back to the OEM and my mileage is now back to what it was before I tried the aftermarket.  I actually lose a few tenths of a mile in mileage.  I know that is not much.  Then there was the backfiring when I let off.  I know that you can pinch a tube to help eliminate that but to much work.

From what I have heard if you go with the aftermarket then you should also consider remapping the ECU to get the most out of it and that is another $400.

Yeah I heard the same and that is coming from Vance and Hines. When you receive the exhaust there is a big sticker on it that reads that you will need a FuelPak or something similar. But here is the tricky part V&H tech tells me he is not sure if the Fuel Pak will work on the 2011 or 2012 because they have not actually hooked it up to one yet.  ???
So I called Two Brothers and they say the same thing about using a their exhaust and their Juice Box it is recommended to get the maximum performance and fuel economy. I will probably go with the DynoJet Power Commander 5 it is just a better piece of equipment.

 

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 07:32:46 pm »
I went with the Vance & Hine CS one and I also went back to the OEM and my mileage is now back to what it was before I tried the aftermarket.  I actually lose a few tenths of a mile in mileage.  I know that is not much.  Then there was the backfiring when I let off.  I know that you can pinch a tube to help eliminate that but to much work.

From what I have heard if you go with the aftermarket then you should also consider remapping the ECU to get the most out of it and that is another $400.

Yeah I heard the same and that is coming from Vance and Hines. When you receive the exhaust there is a big sticker on it that reads that you will need a FuelPak or something similar. But here is the tricky part V&H tech tells me he is not sure if the Fuel Pak will work on the 2011 or 2012 because they have not actually hooked it up to one yet.  ???
So I called Two Brothers and they say the same thing about using a their exhaust and their Juice Box it is recommended to get the maximum performance and fuel economy. I will probably go with the DynoJet Power Commander 5 it is just a better piece of equipment.

I have a 2010 and installed a Black V&H CSOne.  I didn't have any problems with the bike running correctly after the install.  That's all I did.  I do not have a PC5 or anything.  I also have not done the Guhl ECU flash, which I hear makes the bike even a faster rocket with the CSOne, if you can believe that.  I also installed the 1 7/8" insert which quieted it down a bit, but it sounds great.  Doesn't bother my wife either as we normally ride 2 up.  Like I have said, we have had absolutely zero issues.

Hope this helps and good luck.
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 07:30:49 pm »
I had the CS1 installed on my 2012 C14 at my first service along with the power commander and love the sound! When I went to the dealer to pick the bike up I asked the mechanic how it sounded and he said " not much different than stock", I could tell the difference as soon as I started it up. Really the only time it can get loud is if you get on the throttle. I have read a bunch of threads that claim you don't need to change the map if you install just slip ons but my dealer said that is not true? I have read about people having popping issues, I don't have any, is the power commander with the correct map the answer, I don't know, I'm not a cycle mechanic. I can tell you my dealer said he would not install the CS1 without the power commander because I would probably have issues, was he just trying to sell me something else or does he know what he is talking about? I have no reason not to trust my dealer and beleive he was steering me in the right direction! I think the CS1 is perfect for my C14 not too loud and not too quiet just right. I also use a Bluetooth headset for music or my radar detector so I really don't hear much of the exhaust. Hope this helps, after all it is a sport bike and should sound as good as it looks, IMHO.
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2012, 06:16:49 pm »
The full Muzzys dual system sounds deep like Barry White...  :great:

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2012, 06:53:33 pm »
I have a near new Van and Hines Black cs1 with quiet tip... if anyone is interested......paid 450......325

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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 05:50:24 pm »
I purchased the Area P slip on used from a member here who had de-farkled before selling. I installed it yesterday afternoon and got in an hour or so last night. As stated before, at idle the sound is a definite improvement. Deep and a bit louder coming up through gears. At highway speeds, I can not tell a difference. Over wind and road noise, I could not hear it any more than the stocker.

No pop or backfire, but there is a definite "burble" at low RPM which sounds great to me.

I was leaning toward the CS One, with the Area P being my second choice, but couldn't be happier, especially after finding a clean, second hand option for a good price. How my riding buddies react may be different :)
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Re: Aftermarket Exhaust sound?
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