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Auxiliary Light mounts
« on: March 10, 2019, 05:04:33 pm »
I'm creating this as a new thread at the suggestion of several contributors to the OLD thread. I'm also hoping not to do anything that the moderators wouldn't care for, so please let me know if this crosses any lines.

I love my C14. Was still driving my second C10 when they came out. It took a couple years, but I finally found mine courtesy of Craigslist, and a wife patient enough to drive halfway across California with me. And NOT for the first time either!

Among all the things Kawasaki did right, there are a few miscues that just cry out "Why?!?" I refer in this case to the fact that their design group evidently made a studied decision NOT to provide anything resembling a plumb, level surface that could be easily co-opted for mounting add-on lights. Right?

For the full history, please check out the earlier thread:
http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/any-interest/

For those with  no patience for tedious backstory:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113680847477

These are 3d printed with a carbon fiber-PLA filament. The exterior surfaces are made thick for strength, and with a 25% infill pattern (technospeak for MORE strength). The hardware is stainless steel. I do not supply the 8mm bolt for actually attaching the lights, because there are just too many variations possible. It's cheaper for us both if I don't include something that you might not need.

My first two units have already been sold. And I'm hoping, nay- pleading, for some honest feedback from their new owners once they've had time to evaluate.

Ride safe folks.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2019, 07:00:06 pm »
Hi PeterL,

As soon as they get here, I'll put up a review.

Hmm.. I wonder if production #001 will become a collector's item?  :rotflmao:

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2019, 07:13:14 pm »
You need a catchy name for those Pete.  Pete's EZ Light Mounts or something.  You'll be famous! :great:
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2019, 07:45:26 pm »
Yah. Asking me to name something is like standing in lane#2 of the 405, on a Friday afternoon, during an electrical storm, whilst wearing underwear made from recycled Brillo pads. I'm a lifelong unrepentant punster.  My Connie is called "Thunder" because it ROLLS! (Garth Brooks humor)

Great. Now I'll be up until all hours, striving to come up with something capable of making dozens of people groan in perfect synchronicity AND in five-part harmony. Be warned- I've done it before.

This isn't over...
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2019, 01:33:12 pm »
Nice

I like the simplicity. THe light snugs up to the inserted nut? Strength is enough to keep the nut from coming through? How is pricing and shipping? Getting ready to add fuzeblock and lights.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2019, 01:58:56 pm »
I designed the structure in keeping with my life philosophy:
      "Anything worth doing is worth OVERdoing"

The top and sidewall are thick, and the internal structure is filled with a grid pattern at a 25% fill rate. (This saves material but insures structural integrity) The bottom plate is made even thicker, so that if you have a light that wants a secondary locating screw, you could actually drill into it for the purpose. Also it helps to absorb vibrational stresses inherent with any suspended mass. I went with a coupling nut, rather than just a regular type, because the added surface area makes a r-e-a-l-l-y strong bond with the internal recess, insuring very low load stress on the wall structure. It also gives a very secure purchase for the mounting bolt for the light itself.

Mine have held up great so far, and showed no stress lines or fractures when I pulled the one off the other day. And where my originals were made with an "ABS+" filament, I'm using a "carbon fiber-PLA" matrix for all my production versions, as it has even greater structural strength.

Please see the eBay link for the commercial info. I don't want to push my luck with the moderators here.

-Peter

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2019, 03:18:13 pm »
Yah. Asking me to name something is like standing in lane#2 of the 405, on a Friday afternoon, during an electrical storm, whilst wearing underwear made from recycled Brillo pads. I'm a lifelong unrepentant punster.  My Connie is called "Thunder" because it ROLLS! (Garth Brooks humor)

Great. Now I'll be up until all hours, striving to come up with something capable of making dozens of people groan in perfect synchronicity AND in five-part harmony. Be warned- I've done it before.

This isn't over...
Somebody had to do it! :nananana: :nananana: :))
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2019, 04:22:44 pm »
Well, to go along with the "Thunder" bike name, you could call these "LIGHTning Mounts"

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2019, 10:38:09 pm »
Whilst I absolutely refuse to bind myself to public opinion, I'm putting this to a vote. Herewith are the three leading contenders for naming rights (preliminary judging was by my wife. YOU argue with her if you like...)

1.  Peter's Perfect Pod Perches
2.  IBuiltThisBecauseKawasakiWouldn't
3.  Phantastic Photonic Pharkles

Voting is now open.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2019, 10:52:45 pm »
Hmm...

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2019, 11:22:31 am »
Just placed my order.  Now I have to figure out which lights to get.  :)
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2019, 06:51:48 pm »
Those look great! I ended up fabricating a mount for mine in the same location. You're right, it doesn't seem like there is a flat spot on our C14's!!!!
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2019, 01:35:22 am »
Nice. Elegant in it’s simplicity.
I want to add some driving lights, but I have the Skene Photon Blasters mounted on either side of the front fender, not leaving me a lot of options for aux light mounting. Your nameless widgets look like they’ll do the trick.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2019, 02:11:09 am »
Well... it looks like they will henceforth be known as "Pod Perches". Putting my name on 'em seemed rather egocentric (I am rather, but I do not generally advertise the fact!), and 'perfect' is often sought but rarely achieved. Or is that just me?

The first few units have shipped, and I hope to be caught up with all orders by this coming Monday. Once that landmark is achieved, I'm actually going to try and print a few ahead, so folks in future won't have to wait quite so long for theirs. The response has been more than I was prepared for, and I hope everyone will be pleased when they receive and install.

Thanks to all,

Peter

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2019, 04:33:24 pm »
Just put my order in.  Looks like a cool place to mount a camera as well.
Really looking forward to something else to bolt on my bike.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2019, 12:17:09 am »
Just received mine yesterday.

While I have not mounted them yet, due to cold temps and an unheated garage, I am very happy with the build quality.

The mounts are exactly as described by PeterL.

Having no experience with 3D printed parts, I wasn't sure what to expect as far as the material goes. These feel solid and have a little bit of weight to them. Definitely not generic plastic pucks.

The only problem with them is one of my own making. The mounts for the lights I picked use an M6 bolt as the main fastener, while the Pod Perches are set up for an M8 bolt. All is good, as this gave me an excuse to go to the local "old school" hardware store and do some shopping. ;) Nothing a new drill, bit set, vice and M8 bolt couldn't cure. I'll just drill out the mounts that came with the lights and wait for temps above 25 F to install.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2019, 12:41:38 am »
I'd be interested to know if this is a common issue. I designed these for 8mm because that was what every light I've installed (at least those I can REMEMBER installing) were all M8. I can supply an M6 version as well if enough folks require/request that. It would be a fairly easy modification to my design.

Chuck- I'm glad first impressions are positive, hopefully the long term will be likewise. Looking forward to hearing of your experiences. Also, while I put it in the install notes, I want to stress for everyone's benefit: do NOT use a mounting bolt longer than 25mm. You don't even really need that, as the coupling nut gives you w-a-y more thread area than a 'regular' nut. Anything longer than 25mm would run into the pot metal mirror base piece. It wouldn't end well (for the mirror).

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 01:00:26 am »
I'd be interested to know if this is a common issue. I designed these for 8mm because that was what every light I've installed (at least those I can REMEMBER installing) were all M8. I can supply an M6 version as well if enough folks require/request that. It would be a fairly easy modification to my design.

Chuck- I'm glad first impressions are positive, hopefully the long term will be likewise. Looking forward to hearing of your experiences. Also, while I put it in the install notes, I want to stress for everyone's benefit: do NOT use a mounting bolt longer than 25mm. You don't even really need that, as the coupling nut gives you w-a-y more thread area than a 'regular' nut. Anything longer than 25mm would run into the pot metal mirror base piece. It wouldn't end well (for the mirror).

Peter

Just as a side note, I didn't go with any of the big name light manufacturers (Denali, Advmonster...), as I am not made of money.  ;D

Instead I opted for 7watt, 2", 25 degree spot LEDs from SuperBrightLeds:
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-light-pods/led-light-pod-2-round-led-off-road-work-light-7w-700-lumens/1386/12992/

Little did I realize that they mention the mount bolt size right on the specifications... reading comprehension fail on my part. But, easily fixable.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2019, 12:22:36 pm »
Those look exactly like my Mondo Motos, and substantially less $$$.

Probably one of the reasons why Mondo went under.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2019, 01:59:05 pm »
MARCH 20, 2019 update
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One of my initial purchasers just reported the protruding nubs on the top face do NOT work with his C14. I haven't heard from any others as yet, but I shut down the eBay link until I insure everyone who bought a set is happy.

My test beds were only two bikes, my own 2008, and a 2013 belonging to a riding buddy. Needless to say, both bikes accepted the prototypes with no fit issues or I'd have never offered these to others. Any early-adopter who DOES experience an issue will get a proper replacement or a refund as they wish.

More to come as this is resolved I'm sure.

Peter
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projects: 1982 cb750F (project "Ichigo"), 1983 VF750S (x2) (I named the first one "SabreOne" just so's I could name the second one "SabreTwo-th"), and something that started life as an '03 SV1000s but has now mutated beyond recognition...
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2019, 04:40:35 pm »
I just did a little test fit by holding it up against the mirror and the alignment nubs fit just fine on my 2016.

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2019, 12:24:58 am »
As I've not heard any other reports of fitting issues, I reposted the eBay listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/113693266020

I do want to make sure everyone is satisfied, so PLEASE contact me directly with any questions or issues.

Ride safe,

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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2019, 11:21:45 am »
Peter,
My order should be here today.  I will mount them tonight and let you know how it goes.
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2019, 11:38:08 pm »
MARCH 20, 2019 update
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One of my initial purchasers just reported the protruding nubs on the top face do NOT work with his C14. I haven't heard from any others as yet, but I shut down the eBay link until I insure everyone who bought a set is happy.

My test beds were only two bikes, my own 2008, and a 2013 belonging to a riding buddy. Needless to say, both bikes accepted the prototypes with no fit issues or I'd have never offered these to others. Any early-adopter who DOES experience an issue will get a proper replacement or a refund as they wish.

More to come as this is resolved I'm sure.

Peter

You informed me that I got set #2 I will check fitment this weekend and let you know.
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Re: Auxiliary Light mounts
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2019, 12:49:57 am »
I’d love to see everyone’s installs once you get them done.