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Offline jkenny

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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2012, 09:07:34 am »
I was going to go with the G9 but Scala is not Apple computer friendly and the SMH10 is for updates.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2012, 09:01:40 pm »
Thanks for all the replies...  Picked up a Sena SMH10 today and tried it out, easy to use, speakers see to work as advertised.  So I will put it to use tomorrow and give a review soon...

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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2012, 04:36:43 pm »
 :-X :))
Ive been looking for some type of Bluetooth device i havea Droid/Motorola phone so im probably gonna get the sena system but i got a new Motorola sliver Bluetooth and it fits in my helmet i can listen to Pandora or music i did make a phone call i could hear well but on other end sound was ok people could tell my helmet was on but i was impressed it worked

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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2012, 12:13:06 pm »
Not to start another thread, I'm hoping this isn't too off topic. I'm looking to refine my setup and want to be able to be compatable for bike to bike communication.

I currently have a Nolan N_Com helmet I used with my old bike's setup. Worked great for phone-GPS..Has mono bluetooth music which is not great.
The Connie I bought has Starcom advanced that has GPS wired to it and the PTT and Volume button. Previous owner removed Midland 2-way and I dont have the helmet mic and speakers.
This Starcom seems like a complicated setup to get working and if I get the Starcom  bluetooth module, I'm not sure of compatability for pairing.

It looks like there are mixed methods for bike to bike communications, two way radio and blue tooth. The best setup Ive researched is through Sena. The SR10 with PTT will allow me to connect GPS, phone, Two-way Radio to my Nolan setup. If I ditch the Nolan and install the SMH10, I think that will add Bluetooth bike to bike as well..

Does anyone have an experience with a setup like this?

Another question I have is on the type of 2-Way..PMR446-GMRS=FRS-CB?
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2012, 09:19:13 pm »
If I ditch the Nolan and install the SMH10, I think that will add Bluetooth bike to bike as well..

With the SMH10 there is nothing to add, the bike to bike communications is already there for up to 4 units.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2012, 09:35:41 pm »


[/quote]There's just no bass, sound is very midrange. I have not played with the speaker placement. When I first installed the speakers they were too close to my ear, touching them, and the bass was no better and i did not feel it was going to get any better by moving them around. Works good for GPS, phone and Radar detector just not quality sound with music. Maybe I have a bad set of speakers? ???
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When it comes to speakers in a helmet proper placement is everything.  The slightest change will influence sound dramatically.  It's not just about how close to the ear but also front to back or up & down.  If you just place the speakers wherever they will never sound good.  It is definitely a trial and error process.

Then again you might just have bad speakers.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2012, 09:51:16 pm »
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2012, 03:19:51 am »
If I ditch the Nolan and install the SMH10, I think that will add Bluetooth bike to bike as well..

With the SMH10 there is nothing to add, the bike to bike communications is already there for up to 4 units.

I guess that holds true only if the other bikes are equipped the same way so I guess if I go that route and add the SM10 Bluetooth unit where i can plug in a 2-way I should be set.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2012, 03:38:22 am »
Before y'all go gettin invested in bluetooth setups, keep in mind that each manufacturer keeps their pairing software proprietary - there is no standard. There are standards for pairing with phones, GPS, radar, etc. but even then maybe not all phones are supported (although that has gotten better). But there are no standards for unit to unit. So a Scala won't pair with a Sena, and so on. It may be the same frequency, but the handshake ain't recognized.

So if you want to ride with other folks using bluetooth, find out what they are using, or you'll just be talkin to yourself.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2012, 04:07:25 am »
Before y'all go gettin invested in bluetooth setups, keep in mind that each manufacturer keeps their pairing software proprietary - there is no standard. There are standards for pairing with phones, GPS, radar, etc. but even then maybe not all phones are supported (although that has gotten better). But there are no standards for unit to unit. So a Scala won't pair with a Sena, and so on. It may be the same frequency, but the handshake ain't recognized.

So if you want to ride with other folks using bluetooth, find out what they are using, or you'll just be talkin to yourself.

Yup. Hence my questions on whats being used..So far it looks like pot luck with Sena being a favorite on a couple forums. My sticking point is what Radio band is used most..But I think thats another thread..

Good point though
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2012, 03:00:38 pm »
Yup. Hence my questions on whats being used..So far it looks like pot luck with Sena being a favorite on a couple forums. My sticking point is what Radio band is used most..But I think thats another thread..

I'd have to look it up, but IIRC, they all use 2400 MHz. Like I said, it's not the band, it's the handshake.

Check with your local AAD, he may have some idea what the riders in your area are using.
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2012, 04:23:00 pm »
I get it, trust me..LOL..Im beyond bluetooth at this point..Im talking 2-way radio bands now which is a new thread..

Back to bluetooth, it would be nice though if you could at least buy firmware upgrades to have your unit recognize the handshake from another unit.. Then you could cross brand and the manufacturer could capture revenue off the upgrade and not worry about losing a customer over propriatory boundaries.. Maybe one day
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Re: Bluetooth set up
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2012, 04:33:11 pm »
CB or FRS are the two viable alternatives. Wingers prefer CB, and with most guys going to blueytooth, FRS is on the way out. Sad because FRS has definite advantages over bt for bike to bike.
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