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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2018, 10:02:45 am »
I purchased the Neutrino Aurora just before shipping the bike to Germany. Still waiting for everything to clear customs then I'll install it. Could be a couple of months but I'll let you know how it goes.

Please do.  I'd seriously consider it.  Appears to be able to modulate the headlight, act like the Vololights brake light, etc etc.. It does a lot of things.

I'm here in Stuttgart. Where in Germany are you, now?
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2018, 07:08:01 pm »
I'm in Wartenberg. 30-35 km N.E. of Munich.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2018, 06:32:34 am »
Finally got most everything sorted. Install starts today, I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2018, 07:04:59 am »
I'm standing by....to hear about it.  I just bought the Vololights brake module.  I'll hold off installing it until I hear about this install.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2018, 08:12:57 pm »





I found the Bussman fuse block at Advance Auto parts, this whole install cost me about $15, it is good for 35 amps, and will handle all the draw you can apply to the system.
Use 10 AWG power wire for the main, you can set it up fused with a big main and with a relay if you desire, but I ran mine to be "hot" at all times.

the toolbox loss to me is moot, those tools can ride along with the other ones in my side bag....heheheheh


Just wanted to bump this up, and say that even tho the photos are clamped now, due to fotobucket's greed, you can still click on the photo's icon, and it will take you to the picture for those interested in the "frugal" $20 block install...

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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2018, 08:17:17 pm »
The Nutrino is much more than a fusebox. I'm in the process of undoing all the "Stuff" I've added so I can
 re-add it all. Hopefully things will still work when it's finished.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2018, 09:09:55 pm »





I found the Bussman fuse block at Advance Auto parts, this whole install cost me about $15, it is good for 35 amps, and will handle all the draw you can apply to the system.
Use 10 AWG power wire for the main, you can set it up fused with a big main and with a relay if you desire, but I ran mine to be "hot" at all times.

the toolbox loss to me is moot, those tools can ride along with the other ones in my side bag....heheheheh


Just wanted to bump this up, and say that even tho the photos are clamped now, due to fotobucket's greed, you can still click on the photo's icon, and it will take you to the picture for those interested in the "frugal" $20 block install...

Ride safe,


Or you can download the photobucket imbedded image fix, at least for Chrome.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2018, 09:24:41 pm »
Yeah, I suppose so Steve, but my Android Nook tablet, and my laptops running Chrome and Win XP Pro, are unsupproted...now... so, I treat Chrome like I treat Photoxucket... and refuse either of them...
I hate software obsolecence... with a passion.


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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 05:08:39 pm »
So far I have removed the CC, Clearwater lights, horn relay, front and rear cameras with DVR and heat controllers (jackets and gloves). I now have a bucket full of wire, relays and fuse holders.
  I also have one mystery wire (see photo), it's blue and  looks to be 18/20 AWG.  Any idea what it is?
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2018, 08:42:47 pm »
Where does that dangly end go... (can't see in photo...) is it just dangling????
In response to the note you sent me, explaining that the harness from the left switch pod, the connector does have a blank spot (per the wire schematic) and on the bike side connector there is a "loose" wire, unidentified, shown opposite that blank spot.
I don't know what that short line on the connector schematically means, like if there is a pin, but no wire...

Let me know if I need to post a snip of that schematic, I did make one, but couldn't add it to my note.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2018, 06:50:31 pm »
The mystery wire goes nowhere.


Mostly finished installing the Blackbox. Here's some pics. #1 is all the junk (stuff) I removed, #2 is the Blackbox sitting in the tool box, #3 is the Blackbox input wiring. The 2 red wires are the battery connection and the battery tender, the yellow wire goes to Acc Power. The other 6 wires are the outputs. #4 is the Battery connection via 12 AWG silicone wire under the gas tank.



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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2018, 07:04:53 pm »
Three more pics. #1&2 is 5 #16 AWG in a bundle going under gas tank to L/H side of engine then up past relays. #3 is the wires that come around the front to the R/H side.
 There are 6 outputs, #1,3 & 5 are max 12 amp, #2 is max 20 amp and #'s 4 & 6 are 15 amp. They can each be independently programed for any power up to the max as circuit breakers. I will be using the outputs for, Clearwater Lights(a diode must be installed), heated jacket, horn relay (must have an internal diode), GPS power and heated gloves. The last output, #6, will control the heated jacket and gloves for the passenger.
  This little box does a Lot of things.
When I'm all finished I'll write up an evaluation.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2018, 06:47:17 pm »
It's installed and working. Had a few glitches getting it to work, called the Tech line and they were friendly, helpful and concerned about the logistics from Germany. The cure was to delete the control App and reinstall a new download. That fixed all the issues. To be honest the other fix was to RTF manual, again. Some of the instruction could have been written better. Guess I'm just to used to military manuals (5th grade level)


It takes a lot to impress me, especially with a wiz bang gadget. This controller is AWSOME. My heated jacket and gloves now turn on automatically at 50*f (adjustable) at 35% (adjustable) then go up 10% in power (heat) for every 2.5 deg drop. No more knobs or controllers falling out of pockets. The same goes for the passenger on a separate circuit, again adjustable. Headlight can be made to flicker or not (each side independently). Brake light can flash, or not. Brake light can flash on deceleration. Circuits can also be speed dependent or sunset/sunrise dependent.
  Lessons learned. Tin the wires before inserting into the connector, read the entire manual before anything else. Some circuits have extra functions. When doing the initial programing set each circuits memory function to ON. If you want a circuit to come on with the ignition turn it on manually during programing then turn off the ignition before turning off the APP, they will then return to whatever state they were in before turning the ignition off. All functions set to automatic can be manually overridden at any time. This thing does way more than I can cover here. Download the APP in the AppStore, "neutrino aurora" and play with it. Some functions will not work without being connected but it will give you an idea of what's possible. It sounds complicated but really isn't. If I cold figure this thing out and make it work anyone can. I'm seriously considering buying a second unit. My one wish is that it had 8 or 10 circuits instead of 6.


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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2018, 06:58:14 pm »
Couple more things.
 It has a high amp connection that can be used for an airhorn or as the input for a battery maintainer (charger). You can monitor in real time the load of each circuit. There is an adjustable alarm for battery voltage level that will shut down all 6 circuits if the battery drops below the adjustable set point. Each circuit can be set to turn off with the ignition or remain on for up to 4 hours or until the battery drops to the set point.
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2018, 07:02:34 pm »
I assume that to perform the headlight modulation and the brake light (flashes on deceleration) functions the unit has to give up one /two of the six circuits.  Are the instructions on where wire the Neutrino in for those functions, pretty clear? 
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Re: C14 Fuse Block Options
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2018, 07:06:56 pm »
They're about as clear as mud. The hot lead going to the brake light gets cut and installed into the "Relay" connection and then the lead going to the brake light goes into one of the six outputs and is programed accordingly.
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