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Phils Rack mounting bolts
« on: November 18, 2015, 10:38:27 am »
Bought a Phil's rack for my C14. Great item. Did not come with the 4 hold down bolts. What are people using instead of the OEM bolts. Looks like I need something that has a short head height to clear the E55 that goes on. The OEM bolt heads contact the case. ???

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2015, 03:33:09 pm »
This is a first.... The stock hardware should fit my rack the same as the stock rack. I've never encountered a clearance problem before, are you sure it's my rack, and has OEM hardware? The bolts are 25 mm long, if you try "Button-Head" bolts they have a slightly lower profile. If you can't find them locally contact me and I'll mail you some. Phil
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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 04:10:36 pm »
I recently used the stock Kawasaki bolts with no problem.

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 08:07:09 pm »
Phil, using the stock hexhead bolts are the heads flush or below the surface of your rack? I used the four bolts from my original rack but they are above the surface of your rack.

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2015, 08:52:22 pm »
They should be Allen head, and sit flush or very slightly above the surface. Do you have a photo??  What year bike? I'm not aware of any changes in the bolts, however, the bolts for the Versys 1000 are taller and I ship button-head bolts only for that application.

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2015, 09:24:17 pm »
Looks like I do not have stock button head bolts. Saw a close up picture of your rack installed and the bolts I have are higher he head bolts not button heads.

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 10:06:11 pm »
The OEM bolts are available from Ron Ayers or other suppliers, they are alloy steel and probably stronger than stainless button-heads from a hardware store. You should also have the stock "Hat Washers" (I don't know what they're called) that are a combined washer & spacer that goes through the grab-rails down to the reflector bracket.
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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 11:18:10 pm »
Thanks.

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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2019, 01:53:05 am »
Phil, using the stock hexhead bolts are the heads flush or below the surface of your rack? I used the four bolts from my original rack but they are above the surface of your rack.

I just installed Phil's rack and have had the exact same issue on my 2014 with the stock bolts. They stick up about 1/8". Is this going to be an issue in mounting the Kawi 47 L top case?
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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2019, 02:44:07 pm »
I suspect some bikes are being sold with non-OEM bolts in the luggage rack. OEM bolts have the same part number since 2008 so if your bike has common socket-head cap screws that stand proud above the top surface of the rack, they have either been assembled with the wrong bolts or someone has changed them. OEM bolts have a broad, domed profile head and are Allen-head but will fit flush with the top surface of my rack. A common hardware store “Button-head” bolt is an acceptable substitute.
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Re: Phils Rack mounting bolts
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2019, 01:24:50 pm »
I agree Phil---I think some non-oem bolts may have been substituted for the rack during the assembly process. I am not going to lose sleep trying to figure it out. I will get a new set either at the dealer or a local fastener store this week. I appreciate all the help you have been behind the scene. Once again a superior quality product!  :beerchug:


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EDIT: I bought some 6x1x 30 bolts and everything is now 100%
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