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Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« on: March 17, 2014, 12:15:16 am »
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Looking for those of you that might of tried a couple of these for comparison.  I am on the stock seat right now, and the only aftermarket seat I have had was a Corbin on my C10.  I have a 2500 mile trip this summer and I want to get the best saddle I can.  My longest day will be around 600 miles, so I need the best I can get.

Thoughts... 


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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 12:29:39 am »
I have a Laam on mine.  I think its very good and the customer service is first rate.
Since you're in Washington you might also look at Rich's Custom seats, he does ride in appointments and has built a lot of them.
Since you want 'the best' it would also be worth thinking of Russell, they usually come up in any discussion of the best seats.
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 12:44:53 am »
Hi,
     Seth Laam will make you a CUSTOM seat for around $300! Ask anyone that owns one and you will find a happy customer! I do no see how you can beat a deal like that. Also a quick turn around! Good luck!
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 12:59:01 am »
So, presume for that price it is a "solo"?  Have you driven any long distances on it?


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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 01:21:45 am »
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 01:50:15 am »


Baldwin. I've Corbin's on previous bikes and liked them but with their proprietary seat pan are really heavy. I have never ridden on a Laam Seat so I can't fairly comment on the seat. I have a Baldwin on my C14, the first time I've had a Baldwin and can only say that it is the best custom seat I've ever ridden. Great for long distance rides and more comfortable that a Russell Day Long. And Loren's service is the best. I give the Baldwin Seat an unqualified recommendation.

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 01:54:17 am »


Baldwin. I've Corbin's on previous bikes and liked them but with their proprietary seat pan are really heavy. I have never ridden on a Laam Seat so I can't fairly comment on the seat. I have a Baldwin on my C14, the first time I've had a Baldwin and can only say that it is the best custom seat I've ever ridden. Great for long distance rides and more comfortable that a Russell Day Long. And Loren's service is the best. I give the Baldwin Seat an unqualified recommendation.

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Did you get the GT or Sport?


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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 01:58:45 am »
Baldwin GT Heated here..Awsome seat. Longest ride so far was about 630 miles in a day. Couldve gone longer
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 02:56:54 am »
That's a pretty good endorsement.

2 for Laam
1 for Baldwin

I've read many posts and the three I mentioned in the subject are probably the most endorsed saddles all around.  As the CW indicated, I do see Sargent quite a bit, but I'm partial to the more custom options versus the factory built models.


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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 02:58:45 am »
I think you would be happy with either the Laam or the Baldwin. The Corbin was way too hard for me. I chose the Laam because of the cost. I paid a little over $300 for a dual seat and it's great. The Baldwin was almost twice that. I use a sheepskin butt pad on long rides as well. I also am inseam challenged so the Baldwin GT was just too wide at the crotch.

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 03:18:53 am »
I've found a smoking' deal on a Corbin, but I know they are hard and that is what is causing me to hesitate.  It is my understanding that they are supposed to break in over time, but 600 miles in one stretch and 2500 miles in 5 days is a lot of saddle time.
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 03:36:09 am »
I had my Corbin for probably 3K and it never broke in. Then I had a Sargent that was nice but it was a solo.  Laam is better.

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2014, 03:51:54 am »
If you are a big-boned fellow, the Corbin may work for you. If you are on the opposite side of the heavy, it won't work. Corbins are heavy because they are made out of granite, thus the hardness. That is also why they don't break in much.   :(

I had a Rich's Custom seat (located in Kingston) on my C10, and it was indeed comfortable. It was $450. Personally, I'm going to try a Laam seat for $250. The only downside is that it will be done without me actually being there to try the seat while he is making it. That was the nice thing about Rich's, it was more local for me (in Seattle).

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 04:27:40 am »
I am by no means big boned.  5'9" 185 32" inseam.  I am thinking of pulling the trigger on the Corbin, if I don't like it, I can send the stocker to Laam and get it done then resell the Corbin for what I pay for it.


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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 08:45:58 am »
You won't regret getting a Baldwing GT my wife and I absolutely love it.  I wish I would have got the heated seat option if I had to do it again though
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 09:40:37 am »


I got the Baldwin GT with the front seat heated since my wife never rides when it is cold. Again, I love it. If I had it to do over again I would do the same thing.

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2014, 10:48:52 am »
Hi,
     Seth Laam will make you a CUSTOM seat for around $300! Ask anyone that owns one and you will find a happy customer! I do no see how you can beat a deal like that. Also a quick turn around! Good luck!

sure hope so, mine will be back in my hands tomorrow from him.  :great: (solo, non heat.)

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 11:47:12 am »
I sure like my Baldwin GT saddle.  Hours in the day is always the limiting factor to how many miles I can put in on one day.  The saddle is NEVER the limiting factor.  We did multiple 650+ miles days last year going to and coming home from the National and our last day was over 800 miles going from Deadwood, SD to home.  Then road even more miles while in Idaho and Wyoming. 

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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2014, 01:05:55 pm »
I sure like my Baldwin GT saddle.  Hours in the day is always the limiting factor to how many miles I can put in on one day.  The saddle is NEVER the limiting factor.  We did multiple 650+ miles days last year going to and coming home from the National and our last day was over 800 miles going from Deadwood, SD to home.  Then road even more miles while in Idaho and Wyoming.

So, you really, really like it? or are you just saying that because you know the owner :)
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2014, 02:00:30 pm »
Hi,
     Seth Laam will make you a CUSTOM seat for around $300! Ask anyone that owns one and you will find a happy customer! I do no see how you can beat a deal like that. Also a quick turn around! Good luck!

sure hope so, mine will be back in my hands tomorrow from him.  :great: (solo, non heat.)

so whats the trick to getting in touch with Laam? two emails and two voice mails so far in last 3 weeks. no response.  ::)
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2014, 03:12:25 pm »
JerryR_WA,

One thing I've found that's important about aftermarket seats is what a "winged bucket" type seat like a Russell does to the overall seat height.

I'm 6', with a 32" inseam... Put on a Russell. First, I love how comfortable it is, and how well it's seating position works with my AST touring pegs.
Now, what I don't like;
The height is high, and I have to tiptoe to reach the ground at stops.
It's a two-edged sword... Doesn't inspire confidence at stops, but way more comfortable when cruising. Gives my knees a straighter reach to the regular pegs... Less bend. Provides a more straight up riding position, easier on my back and hips. But tough at stops, it's the wings on the seat that causes that.

Have tried the Sargent low version. I can flat foot with it at stops, but hard as a brick and can only last an hour or so. The standard version was what I wanted, but got snookered on an Ebay deal.

Stock seat's not bad... For a couple of hours... Then my butt starts to go numb. Too soft, not enough support, poor shape.
Hate the stock vinyl... Cheapest cover I've ever seen, and a disgrace for such a great bike. Doesn't form to the rise curved transition... Very loose and baggy.

Went with leather on the Russell... It has it's drawbacks, too... Pretty slick... Ok for me, not for my passenger. She can't stay on it... Slides into me. (And mine is the double saddle version, too.)

Thinking of sending my Sargent low to Seth Lamm to be redone and recovered. Sargent's carbon fiber looks cool, but is slick, too. Plus, somebody really screwed up on mine and poorly stapled the underside. Staples poked holes on both sides, and has ruined the cover. Not happy at all, to say the least, but that's the risk I guess going with one off of Fleabay. Not sure if it was Sargent, or someone else.
Haven't tried to talk to Sargent about it, since I'm not the original purchaser. Figured just send it out to Lamm.

Today, I'll be receiving a Kawasaki Gel seat I bought off of Bandit from this forum.
Wanted to see if it gives the best compromise between comfort, shape, stickiness, and ground height for my feet.
 If it doesn't work for me, I'll probably put it back on the auction block here.
Fingers are crossed, as I type this.

I hear only praises about Loren and the Baldwin.
Probably should have been my first choice... :-[

Just wanted to throw that info out to you about seats with wings affecting your ability to touch the ground.
Valuable info, there...
Best of luck on your decision, whichever way you decide to go.
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2014, 03:32:07 pm »
Hi,
     Seth Laam will make you a CUSTOM seat for around $300! Ask anyone that owns one and you will find a happy customer! I do no see how you can beat a deal like that. Also a quick turn around! Good luck!

sure hope so, mine will be back in my hands tomorrow from him.  :great: (solo, non heat.)


so whats the trick to getting in touch with Laam? two emails and two voice mails so far in last 3 weeks. no response.  ::)

He's basically a phone guy and usually responds to calls very well.
I would think call California time in morning or afternoon, its a one man shop and I imagine during work hours he's building seats.
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2014, 04:10:04 pm »
Baldwin GT seat for me.  Workmanship, finish and comfort is outstanding.  And yes, Loren is a nice guy as well.
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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2014, 09:33:23 pm »
So, you really, really like it? or are you just saying that because you know the owner :)


I wouldn't ride on anything else.....  :motonoises:  :rotflmao:

JerryR_WA,

One thing I've found that's important about aftermarket seats is what a "winged bucket" type seat like a Russell does to the overall seat height.....



Russell does make a very tall seat for the C14...the Baldwin GT seat does impact reach to the ground some but not like a Russell, because we are keeping them at stock seat height as a standard.  The shape does have some affect on reach to the ground, but it is very rider size and shape dependent too.  How a bike's suspension is setup is a factor too.

Just as a reference.






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Re: Corbin or Baldwin or Laam...?
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2014, 12:25:12 am »
Loren

Great info and thanks for your input.  I lean to the sport side of ST so would I feel confined in the GT saddle... restricted movement when in the twisted?


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