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Title: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 21, 2013, 09:16:28 pm
Has anyone tried the DMV sliders? They are similar to the TopBlock but cheaper and do not require drilling. When I first found them on internet the price on the website was $249 and I ordered right away. I received answer thru the email that they are out of stock and will be available on Feb. 28 and next day the price on the same webside was $499.   
I like the look of the Top Block slightly belter but at the same time I prefer not to drill the cowlings. The DMV slithers will arrive to me (in Canada) about $140 cheaper than TopBlock (and about $60 cheaper than Canyon Cages).I would like to hear different opinions before making a decision. Any input and comment will be appreciated.

Below is the link to DMV site and pictures.

http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EGS-KA-01&Category=352253 (http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EGS-KA-01&Category=352253)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 21, 2013, 09:17:29 pm
more pics
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 21, 2013, 09:21:38 pm
and more pics
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on January 21, 2013, 09:27:03 pm
This is the first time I've seen that brand. I'd check with Murph, I think he is selling the Top Block for not much more than what those cost.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on January 21, 2013, 09:42:58 pm
Interesting... I've never heard of them or seen em before.

I agree with Fred, check with Murph first, I think he's doing the Top Block shipped to US domestic for under $600, which is about $100 less then I paid for mine direct from France.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Cap'n Bob on January 21, 2013, 09:46:24 pm
 Not that I have a dog in this fight. And although I have always liked the Top Block set up. These are fairly similar. But $100-$200 could be a fairly substantial differance for folks. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 21, 2013, 10:00:40 pm
No holes needed for installation is also a consideration in addition to the price.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on January 21, 2013, 10:27:01 pm
They've got some other odds and ends that they're selling as well it appears, I just went through them all looking for what I might want...  >:D  ;)

http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptlist.phtml?Category=352253 (http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptlist.phtml?Category=352253)

They appear to be in Taiwan, I wonder if they have any relation with ProjektD?  ???
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: 4Bikes on January 21, 2013, 10:52:34 pm
I don’t think drilling the holes for the Top Block is a big deal.  It’s simple to do and nearly impossible to mess up with the jig they provide.  If you install them, you likely won’t be taking them off, right?  Second, if you did, just put a black 1” grommet in the hole.  It’s low enough on the fairing to not show. 
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on January 21, 2013, 11:53:31 pm
If those things are selling for $499, then I think they are only going to be about $75 cheaper than the Top Blocks that Murph has.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: fartymarty on January 22, 2013, 12:54:28 am
.....I just went through them all looking for what I might want...  >:D  ;)


So, those fork matching gold reservoir covers and front axle sliders are on their way to you already...?  :)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on January 22, 2013, 12:57:37 am
.....I just went through them all looking for what I might want...  >:D  ;)


So, those fork matching gold reservoir covers and front axle sliders are on their way to you already...?  :)

 :D

Not yet FM, but I did think that USB charger was pretty cool, might have to get one of those for charging my phone on multi-day trips...
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 22, 2013, 04:16:46 am


Not yet FM, but I did think that USB charger was pretty cool, might have to get one of those for charging my phone on multi-day trips...

I’ve been watching these on eBay – they are more expensive there.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Gypsy JR on January 22, 2013, 10:04:04 am
:D

Not yet FM, but I did think that USB charger was pretty cool, might have to get one of those for charging my phone on multi-day trips...

ZG I am shocked !  :-\

You don't already have a USB charger port on yours? Btw, you can get them in black!

When I put the Dispatch 1 on mine, I automatically got a USB port (actually, several) and so I put a waterproof socket on the left console where the blank is, just used a hole saw and it fit right in.

Actually pretty useful, I have left my C3 SRC comm system plugged into it a few times when on multi-day rides. But usually I just haul it all in the motel and plug a USB adapter into a socket, and do it there.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: SAS Mayhem on January 22, 2013, 11:35:56 am
.....I just went through them all looking for what I might want...  >:D  ;)


So, those fork matching gold reservoir covers and front axle sliders are on their way to you already...?  :)

I was eye balling those covers too, I think I'm going to get the Red set this Friday.

Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on January 22, 2013, 03:29:48 pm
:D

Not yet FM, but I did think that USB charger was pretty cool, might have to get one of those for charging my phone on multi-day trips...

ZG I am shocked !  :-\

You don't already have a USB charger port on yours? Btw, you can get them in black!

When I put the Dispatch 1 on mine, I automatically got a USB port (actually, several) and so I put a waterproof socket on the left console where the blank is, just used a hole saw and it fit right in.

Actually pretty useful, I have left my C3 SRC comm system plugged into it a few times when on multi-day rides. But usually I just haul it all in the motel and plug a USB adapter into a socket, and do it there.

 ;D

Well JR I only switched from BB to iphone this past year and haven't done any multi-day trips on the Connie since getting the iphone, the BB just used a mini-USB which I have a powerlet conversion for, the BB took the same charging input as my Scala G4.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 22, 2013, 03:52:54 pm
If those things are selling for $499, then I think they are only going to be about $75 cheaper than the Top Blocks that Murph has.

I wonder how much Murph will charge to ship the TopBlock to Canada
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: SAS Mayhem on January 22, 2013, 07:33:38 pm
If those things are selling for $499, then I think they are only going to be about $75 cheaper than the Top Blocks that Murph has.

I wonder how much Murph will charge to ship the TopBlock to Canada

Say  Silvergrove Place, what was your total cost and are they coming from Asia?

Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 22, 2013, 07:50:56 pm

Say  Silvergrove Place, what was your total cost and are they coming from Asia?

Cheers
Ron

The DMV sliders come from Taiwan @500 + about $50 shipping and does not require drilling for installation
The TopBlock sliders can be ordered from Murph's kits in USA (I am in Canada) @ $575 + shipping (I'm waiting for shipping quote) and require drilling 1" holes in the lower cowling on both sides.
I like the appearance of the TopBlock slightly better while at the same time prefer not to drill holes in my bike. So it is a hard call for me…
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Gypsy JR on January 22, 2013, 07:57:48 pm
;D

Well JR I only switched from BB to iphone this past year and haven't done any multi-day trips on the Connie since getting the iphone, the BB just used a mini-USB which I have a powerlet conversion for, the BB took the same charging input as my Scala G4.

Gotcha. My USB waterproof port on the left console has a standard USB socket, but the cable is USB to mini-USB so it works fine for BB and my C3 SRC, and I have another USB cable that goes USB to the kind of USB connector the Zumo 665 has, I forget what those are called. "Kinda-mini" ?  :rotflmao:

I have an adapter that plugs into an electrical socket, and it has to standard USB ports, one normal and one high enough amperage to engage an iPhone or iPad since they are picky. It was made specifically for this purpose. So I do most of my charging in the motel room, but if I was camped alongside a road I could do it off the console USB port.

And the Dispatch 1 is programmed to leave the USB port on all the time, the drain on the battery overnight to charge a BB or iPhone or my C3 SRC is not going to hurt the battery.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: c14painkiller on January 24, 2013, 05:59:42 pm
Says they have a US distributor.

http://www.cjmoto.com/ (http://www.cjmoto.com/)

Gonna look into it more later. Some neat stuff.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Larry on January 25, 2013, 12:49:34 pm
Says they have a US distributor.

[url]http://www.cjmoto.com/[/url] ([url]http://www.cjmoto.com/[/url])

Gonna look into it more later. Some neat stuff.


Just checked the US distributor's site and it doesn't look like they have the DMV sliders listed.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on January 25, 2013, 01:38:52 pm


Just checked the US distributor's site and it doesn't look like they have the DMV sliders listed.

Yeah I found that too. I will try to contact them, but in my experience shipping from USA to Canada is sometimes more expensive than from Taiwan to Canada (!?)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 12, 2013, 01:25:36 pm
I finally decided to go with Top-Block. I purchased them from Murph and installed them last weekend. I love them!
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: 4Bikes on March 12, 2013, 02:43:36 pm
Congratulations :beerchug:  They look great on the silver bike too! 
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 12, 2013, 03:43:44 pm
Thanks 4bikes. And yeah - no big deal drilling the holes.   ;)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Lablank on March 12, 2013, 03:49:36 pm
So SP, how much was it to ship the TopBlocks to you in Canada? I'm in Ontario.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 12, 2013, 04:05:39 pm
So SP, how much was it to ship the TopBlocks to you in Canada? I'm in Ontario.

Murph asked for additional $50 (US) to ship them to Canada FedEx ground. I then called FedEx and asked how much they will charge me for brokerage fees, etc. and they said it would be another $55.75 (CAD) based on the declared value (Murph only declares the real value and does not mark as a gift). I then asked Murph to ship them to a friend of mine who lives in Georgia (the US shipping is included in the price).  I convinced my friend to mark the package as gift and declare $50 value as Canada Post does not charge fees for gifts under $59. He did that and shipped it to me thru USPS (not UPS) and paid $ 59.60 (US) for the shipping. I received the package and didn’t have to pay any additional fees. So the final price came to around $635…   I can’t believe I spent so much on tip over protectors...  But I love them  ;)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: fartymarty on March 13, 2013, 01:27:00 am
So the final price came to around $635…   I can’t believe I spent so much on tip over protectors...

Just be glad that you didn't order them from France like I did.  :-[ ..talk about monetary disbelief...
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on March 13, 2013, 03:09:15 am
I can’t believe I spent so much on tip over protectors... 


You'll be glad you did if your Connie ever tips over, and if it happens more than once you're $ ahead of the game!  ;)

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,34046.25.html (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,34046.25.html)

If you didn't already, you should also have the swing arm slider to protect the back end too!  :great: :beerchug:
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 13, 2013, 03:28:15 am
I can’t believe I spent so much on tip over protectors... 


You'll be glad you did if your Connie ever tips over, and if it happens more than once you're $ ahead of the game!  ;)

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,34046.25.html (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,34046.25.html)

If you didn't already, you should also have the swing arm slider to protect the back end too!  :great: :beerchug:
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Yeah ZG, I am considering installing a swing arm sliders but I am researching some more cost effective options than the Top-Block ones. Any ideas?
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on March 13, 2013, 02:02:06 pm
Yeah ZG, I am considering installing a swing arm sliders but I am researching some more cost effective options than the Top-Block ones. Any ideas?

Sorry bro, I'm not very good at low cost options...  ;)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 13, 2013, 02:12:52 pm
Yea, I see.. I am researching internet and eBay. Could you please you tell me how long are the Top-Block swingarm sliders? Thanks.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: ZG on March 14, 2013, 12:37:10 am
Could you please you tell me how long are the Top-Block swingarm sliders? Thanks.

Just shy of 2".
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 14, 2013, 01:10:00 am
Just shy of 2".

Thanks ZG
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on March 20, 2013, 02:44:51 am
Onemore pic of my Top-Block sliders :motonoises: :motonoises:
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: rob on November 20, 2013, 07:49:31 pm
Onemore pic of my Top-Block sliders :motonoises: :motonoises:

Do these come with Kawasaki on them like that picture?
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: nando on November 23, 2013, 07:35:24 am
Onemore pic of my Top-Block sliders :motonoises: :motonoises:


Do you have to remove the Top-block before you take the fairing off?

and I like these ones better
http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EG-KA-05&Category=352253 (http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EG-KA-05&Category=352253)
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: 4Bikes on November 23, 2013, 10:37:48 am
To remove the lower black fairing, the Top Block needs to be partially removed.

It's pretty simple to do.  Remove the skate with two screws. It's a great opportunity to clean them anyway. Next remove the front bolt,  loosen the rear bolt, and swing the arm down and out of the way.  This needs to be done on each side, but can be done in a few minutes.

Trust me that when it comes to removing the fairings, the Top Block is the easy part.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: 4Cedars on November 23, 2013, 10:58:07 pm

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and I like these ones better
http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EG-KA-05&Category=352253 (http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EG-KA-05&Category=352253)
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I agree Nando, I like the clean smooth lines these offer.

I think these will go on before spring,  :great:
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Wyorider on November 26, 2013, 02:34:07 am
How come no one can design these with flip out highway pegs...... ???
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Pistole on November 26, 2013, 02:58:09 am
Yea, I see.. I am researching internet and eBay. Could you please you tell me how long are the Top-Block swingarm sliders? Thanks.

as a heads up , you would need to be careful about these "extra long" swingarm sliders because they can actually physically lever your rear tyre off its side when you're leaned over enough.

.
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: nando on November 30, 2013, 05:13:30 am
Has anyone tried the DMV sliders? They are similar to the TopBlock but cheaper and do not require drilling. When I first found them on internet the price on the website was $249 and I ordered right away. I received answer thru the email that they are out of stock and will be available on Feb. 28 and next day the price on the same webside was $499.   
I like the look of the Top Block slightly belter but at the same time I prefer not to drill the cowlings. The DMV slithers will arrive to me (in Canada) about $140 cheaper than TopBlock (and about $60 cheaper than Canyon Cages).I would like to hear different opinions before making a decision. Any input and comment will be appreciated.

Below is the link to DMV site and pictures.

[url]http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EGS-KA-01&Category=352253[/url] ([url]http://www.dmv.com.tw/html/front/bin/ptdetail.phtml?Part=DMV-EGS-KA-01&Category=352253[/url])



This is a weird website. I ordered the engine guards and their response was that they are sending me an email. What is up with that? They didn't take payment or anything...weird
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: mattchewn on November 30, 2013, 04:27:35 pm
Nando,
Looking at how far apart the mounting points seem to be on these bars I seriously doubt they will protect any plastic in a tip over. The bars will just bend in and damage the bike/plastics on their own. Unless there is a third mounting point I am not seeing? It certainly looks like there is only two mounting points and then a bolt acting as a swivel hinge so that the bars can be installed without fairing interference. I hope they work out for whoever gets them. I am going to go with the Top Blocks.
Matt
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: nando on November 30, 2013, 05:02:37 pm
Matt,
That's exactly what I thought: how da heck is this thing gonna take the weight of Ms. Connie?
I had the R&G and they bent on a light drop. Then I put the Canyon--but man what a hassle to take off.

To be honest with u: I was thinking more along the line of putting some kind of engine guard in order to hopefully redirect the engine oscillation now going to the handlebars. I had a trottlebody and valve done...now the engine is smooth as silk but the vibration returned to the handlebar (throttle). I tried everything recommended. I am getting some raisers and I was thinking of putting some gasket material inbetween
.....Thus the idea of these bars...maybe they LL help to  distribute the engine vibration
  that is now sneaking up to the handle.   .... I basically do not like engine guards cause of the stringencies in torquing engine mount bolts. It seems to me, if you attach engine guards to the engine mount bolt, then you would have to re-torque the entire engine mount bolt family everytime...plus, what is the effect of a new sleeves and spacers (typically a part of the engine guard gadgets) on the torque value itself. It must effect that...I suspect
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: mattchewn on November 30, 2013, 07:47:38 pm
Nando,
I don't see any real major benefit as far as vibe reduction from bolting on more weight. I would try some different bar ends first. My C14 has very little in the way of vibration and it got reduced even further when I installed a Throttlemeister throttle lock. I also have a set of 1 1/2 inch risers installed.  Don't ask me why cause I have no idea, it just worked. I would not put anything that might compress between the bars and the top tree. You will only end up with loose bars. Have you done the complete engine re-torque procedure? Maybe that would help. Also some different grips may make a huge difference. At what rpm is your vibes really noticeable?
Matt
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: nando on November 30, 2013, 08:00:42 pm
Retorqued eng. Bolts according to mom Kawi. Throtttle body
I am waiting for a throttle tamer...

funny thing is my right foot peg used to vibrate prior to the throttle body...that stopped and it shifted to my right hand...
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: mattchewn on November 30, 2013, 08:05:15 pm
Nando,
Maybe your TB synch isn't quite right? Since that is what made the differences I would start there.
Matt
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: nando on November 30, 2013, 08:06:30 pm
The mech that did it said it was way off...
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: Lablank on December 01, 2013, 02:49:39 pm
It was my understanding that synchronizing the TB only affects how the engine idles....i.e. no effect at speed. But I may be wrong!! :motonoises:
Title: Re: DMV sliders - similar to TopBlock but cheaper
Post by: tchinkov on October 24, 2015, 01:04:31 am
Onemore pic of my Top-Block sliders :motonoises: :motonoises:

Do these come with Kawasaki on them like that picture?

No. This is a sticker I purchased from eBay