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Title: Driving Lights
Post by: SuperBee on June 19, 2011, 03:51:16 pm
About to spring for a set of Clearwater Glendas and wondering if anyone has any experience with them and/or any installation pearls or pitfalls. If there are other brands to consider please post them up. I ride 27 miles at night through a twisty, not well lit, deer infested area. I need to throw a little more light downstream for that important heads up. Thanks for any responses.

Ride Safe,

SB
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Tim Anderson on June 19, 2011, 04:36:32 pm
No personal experience, but the July Cycle World magazine has a short write up on the Kristas and Glenda that you may find useful.   They seem quite pricey to me but maybe they are worth it.  Many years ago when I rode at night I used a set of Hella halogen 60W driving lights that were pretty amazing, I assume the new LED lights are just as good.  The ones I had would light up road signs (and animal eyes) from 200 yards away!  They also ran the battery down if you left them on too long, something the LEDs won't do!
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on June 20, 2011, 09:15:14 am
Several people that I know, to include myself, have used these as a less expensive alternative:

http://24x7diy.com/index.php/cPath/33

Specifically, the 1800 lumen set.

I cannot vouch for the long term durability, but I can state these are BRIGHT.  While running them in daytime, cars would tilt their rearview mirrors to night mode when I was behind them.  I ended up wiring in a dimmer and a relay.  During the day, they are on, but dimmed.  I use them as daytime running lights (with the low beam) and as a low power driving light that I can just leave on.  When I hit the bike high beam, the dimmer is bypassed and the LEDs are full bright. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Bagger on June 20, 2011, 10:51:53 pm
Several people that I know, to include myself, have used these as a less expensive alternative:

[url]http://24x7diy.com/index.php/cPath/33[/url]

Specifically, the 1800 lumen set.

I cannot vouch for the long term durability, but I can state these are BRIGHT.  While running them in daytime, cars would tilt their rearview mirrors to night mode when I was behind them.  I ended up wiring in a dimmer and a relay.  During the day, they are on, but dimmed.  I use them as daytime running lights (with the low beam) and as a low power driving light that I can just leave on.  When I hit the bike high beam, the dimmer is bypassed and the LEDs are full bright.



Bob ... where did you mount these lights?  Any photos?  And, the photos you have in the link show that the silver lights have an extension on the housing ... but, the black ones do not.  Any remarks about this?  Thanx.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: C1xRider on June 21, 2011, 01:04:47 am
Several people that I know, to include myself, have used these as a less expensive alternative:

[url]http://24x7diy.com/index.php/cPath/33[/url]

Specifically, the 1800 lumen set.

I cannot vouch for the long term durability, but I can state these are BRIGHT.  While running them in daytime, cars would tilt their rearview mirrors to night mode when I was behind them.  I ended up wiring in a dimmer and a relay.  During the day, they are on, but dimmed.  I use them as daytime running lights (with the low beam) and as a low power driving light that I can just leave on.  When I hit the bike high beam, the dimmer is bypassed and the LEDs are full bright.


Second question, how far down the road do they project at night?
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on June 21, 2011, 10:03:22 am
Bagger-

I have the lights mounted on the MC Enterprises front bars.  I will post pictures up tonight.  I have them, but not on this computer.  I don't see the difference between the silver and black lights.  To be sure we are looking at the same product, the lights I have are the black color, BL1800.  In looking at that product, I don't see a visual difference in the pictures of the black vs silver housings.  I went black as my MC bars are black and they all seem to blend in pretty well with the blue of the bike. 

C1xRider-

As to how far down the road....I can't say that I can make a call on that today.  I do know that they are so bright that when you turn them off, it gets really DARK.   When I first installed them I pointed the bike up my driveway, which is 400+ feet.  Seeing all the way to the end was not a problem.  If it doesn't rain tonight I'll take it out and go to a spot close to my house that I know has no external lights and is just a bit over a 1/4 mile straight and flat.  I'll let you know.  I did take some pics of the light pattern at 50 feet with just low beam, just driving lights, just high beam, and high beam and driving lights.  I can post those if you are interested. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: C1xRider on June 21, 2011, 06:43:28 pm
C1xRider-

As to how far down the road....I can't say that I can make a call on that today.  I do know that they are so bright that when you turn them off, it gets really DARK.   When I first installed them I pointed the bike up my driveway, which is 400+ feet.  Seeing all the way to the end was not a problem.  If it doesn't rain tonight I'll take it out and go to a spot close to my house that I know has no external lights and is just a bit over a 1/4 mile straight and flat.  I'll let you know.  I did take some pics of the light pattern at 50 feet with just low beam, just driving lights, just high beam, and high beam and driving lights.  I can post those if you are interested.


Thanks Bob,

  I'm very interested, as they are the ones I've been looking at.  I would be mounting them in the same place you did too.  They are currently on sale for $139 here, http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/78 (http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/78), so I'm very tempted to order them.  The biggest concern I have is the life expectancy.  The ones I looked at on eBay stated 3000 to 5000 hours.  That may sound like a lot, but it's not for an LED.  That's only 125 days to 208 days of continuous use, which is probably 2 to 5 years of actual use.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on June 23, 2011, 12:00:56 am
I agree that life expectancy was my biggest concern, along with light output.  I can't make an assessment on life span as I have only about 2000 miles on them.  They appear to be a quality product, based ONLY on the outside housing and the solid feel of the lights.  I haven't taken them apart (and I don't intend to) to see the insides. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Big B on June 23, 2011, 08:45:36 pm
Hey Bob, I have some locally purchased LEDs that I want to hook up on the C14. I come from the school for the electrically/mechanically declined. How did you wire things for the dimmer feature on your bike?
Thanks, BB.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on June 23, 2011, 11:42:31 pm
Hey Bob, I have some locally purchased LEDs that I want to hook up on the C14. I come from the school for the electrically/mechanically declined. How did you wire things for the dimmer feature on your bike?
Thanks, BB.

I did it pretty much by trial and a couple of errors, BUT I was smart enough to have made a complete wiring diagram of the job after I was done and had proved that they actually work.  I need to clean it up a little and I'll be happy to post it.  Actually, I was thinking of doing a tech article on it. I took pictures along the way.   Give me a day or three and I'll at least have the wiring diagram done. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on June 25, 2011, 11:16:23 pm
The atttached wiring diagram should help anyone understand how to wire the lights using a dimmer and automatically switch to high power when the bike high beam is turned on.  I've got a tech article along with pictures just about done and will be submitting that probably by Monday.  However, this should be enough to get started or at least collect the required parts like the dimmer and the relays.  The dimmer I used is specific to LED's so don't try to use it with regular (non-LED) bulbs! Also, don't try to use a regular dimmer to control LED's.  It won't work.   
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on June 28, 2011, 02:29:05 am
Hi check this I found on facebook http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150119879256061.327490.669536060&l=07683c66a7
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Cap'n Bob on June 28, 2011, 10:44:39 am
That gives a nice sample of the lights!
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: charli on July 01, 2011, 08:01:07 am
Hello Friends:
I would like to know where you have placed the lights
It is possible that you put some pictures?
Greetings
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: C1xRider on July 01, 2011, 01:26:46 pm
Hello Friends:
I would like to know where you have placed the lights
It is possible that you put some pictures?
Greetings

Start with the link posted by nilesh a couple of posts ago, lots of pictures.  Good find nilesh!

Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: charli on July 01, 2011, 06:50:28 pm
Indeed the link facebook there are many pictures but none of the CONCOURS 1400 which is what interests me

thanks
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: SuperBee on July 03, 2011, 04:29:52 am
I sprung for the Clearwater Glendas.  As soon as I get them installed, I will post a tech article on it.  The two Glendas I got will be place on the forks.  They are on backorder now, so may be a few weeks before I can get pics up.

Ride Safe,

SB
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: charli on July 04, 2011, 09:56:04 am
Bagger-

I have the lights mounted on the MC Enterprises front bars.  I will post pictures up tonight.  I have them, but not on this computer.  I don't see the difference between the silver and black lights.  To be sure we are looking at the same product, the lights I have are the black color, BL1800.  In looking at that product, I don't see a visual difference in the pictures of the black vs silver housings.  I went black as my MC bars are black and they all seem to blend in pretty well with the blue of the bike. 

C1xRider-

As to how far down the road....I can't say that I can make a call on that today.  I do know that they are so bright that when you turn them off, it gets really DARK.   When I first installed them I pointed the bike up my driveway, which is 400+ feet.  Seeing all the way to the end was not a problem.  If it doesn't rain tonight I'll take it out and go to a spot close to my house that I know has no external lights and is just a bit over a 1/4 mile straight and flat.  I'll let you know.  I did take some pics of the light pattern at 50 feet with just low beam, just driving lights, just high beam, and high beam and driving lights.  I can post those if you are interested.

Hi Bob
It would be possible were to put some pictures of the lights in the C14
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Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on July 04, 2011, 11:16:43 am
I've tried to upload pics several times but keep bumping into file size limitations.  I guess that is what I get for using a 10MP camera.  Let's see it this one works. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on July 04, 2011, 11:19:30 am
I've tried to upload pics several times but keep bumping into file size limitations.  I guess that is what I get for using a 10MP camera.  Let's see it this one works.

NOPE.  Still too large.  I'll take a couple of low res pics and try again, unless someone can explain how to save the .jpg's in a lower resolution.   
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on July 04, 2011, 11:39:43 am
I've tried to upload pics several times but keep bumping into file size limitations.  I guess that is what I get for using a 10MP camera.  Let's see it this one works.


NOPE.  Still too large.  I'll take a couple of low res pics and try again, unless someone can explain how to save the .jpg's in a lower resolution.   


I uploaded pics to here:  http://s1142.photobucket.com/albums/n605/armyguns/Concours%20LED%20Lights/

I hope this works.  Never tried Photobucket before. 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: tthompsr on July 04, 2011, 08:14:30 pm
What you need to do is resize your pics using paint! Right klick on your pic chose open with paint, at the top you'll see resize, I usually change to 20-30 % then save.then upload your newly sized pic!
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on July 05, 2011, 12:39:05 am
What you need to do is resize your pics using paint! Right klick on your pic chose open with paint, at the top you'll see resize, I usually change to 20-30 % then save.then upload your newly sized pic!

Thanks-  Hope these aren't too small to be useful.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on July 05, 2011, 02:36:12 am
check this http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=207.15
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: armyguns on July 05, 2011, 09:52:51 am
check this [url]http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=207.15[/url]


Ayyyup, that's my bike!  The other site is much more generous with file attachment sizes! 
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: ike on July 12, 2011, 08:18:20 pm
I've tried to upload pics several times but keep bumping into file size limitations.  I guess that is what I get for using a 10MP camera.  Let's see it this one works.


NOPE.  Still too large.  I'll take a couple of low res pics and try again, unless someone can explain how to save the .jpg's in a lower resolution.   


If you want to "adjust" the size of your .jpg photos, you can do it with a great program called Irfanview.  I've been using it for years... works GREAT!  You can find out more and download it for free here....  http://www.irfanview.com/
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on July 13, 2011, 11:06:39 am
Tech review about lights
http://burgmanusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=53401
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on October 12, 2011, 03:52:31 am
 :-\ New model from seller :-\

Quad CREE XML T6 3000Lm 12V 30Watt LED Auxiliary Light

http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/94 (http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/94)
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on November 13, 2011, 03:44:44 pm
Got My 3000Lm Lights http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/94 (http://24x7diy.com/product_info.php/products_id/94)

1st Picture My Bike Hid Low Mode IMG_0633.JPG

2st Picture My Bike Hid High Mode IMG_0634.JPG

3st Picture My Bike with LED Light IMG_0633.JPG


Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Larry on November 13, 2011, 03:50:39 pm
Look nice.  Got any pics of how you mounted them?
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on November 14, 2011, 07:18:12 pm
I mounted with back view mirror
I will click pictures and post.

for some nice mounting Ideas  please check http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150119879256061.327490.669536060&l=07683c66a7 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150119879256061.327490.669536060&l=07683c66a7)
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Gypsy JR on November 14, 2011, 07:33:27 pm
I've got a set of Denali D2 LED lights, going to mount them down low on the caliper bracket, and wire them so they are low intensity on low beam and high intensity on high beam.

Got them for my ZX14, but never put them on, so now they are going on my C14.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: nilesh on December 19, 2011, 11:39:13 am
 ^-^ :-\Christmas Sale !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://24x7diy.com/specials.php (http://24x7diy.com/specials.php)
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Gildaguz on December 26, 2011, 12:53:14 am
I just order a set of those LED lights for my 09 concours and this is my idea :
It has HID on it so this idea is only for a concours with HID
HID lights come with it's own relay and are connected directly to the battery and use the headlights circuit to control them only by one of the H4 light bulb connectors, and don't draw any amps from that circuit that is designed to handle  in high beam 60 W x 2 and in low beam 55  W x 2 with 2 relays one for high beam and other for low beam, right now with the HID"s that circuit is doing nothing so i will use it to connect the new LED lights  to the other H4 light bulb connector that also is doing nothing right now, in between will install a toggle 3 positions switch that will command this LED's OFF in the center, ON with  high beams in the  position 1 at one end and ON  with low beams in the position 2 at the other end, this is easy for me to understand because I'm a auto mechanic and i know about electric circuits  and will be hard for anyone how don't know about
I will mount the  LED lamps under the mirrors, they have a thick metal bracket so i have to drill in the midle of the 3 bolts that hold the mirror to the mount and tap for a M 6 theads 
Does any one knows where can i get a weather resistant  toggle switch with center position off?
Any suggestion will be appreciated, I'm not a native English speaker so i apologize if my writing is hard to understand
Hope you guys understand what i mean
Thanks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250956114715?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/250956114715?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290637265969?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/290637265969?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
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Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Greg on December 26, 2011, 02:25:58 am
IMpressive difference.
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Gildaguz on January 07, 2012, 09:47:40 pm
I just order a set of those LED lights for my 09 concours and this is my idea :
It has HID on it so this idea is only for a concours with HID
HID lights come with it's own relay and are connected directly to the battery and use the headlights circuit to control them only by one of the H4 light bulb connectors, and don't draw any amps from that circuit that is designed to handle  in high beam 60 W x 2 and in low beam 55  W x 2 with 2 relays one for high beam and other for low beam, right now with the HID"s that circuit is doing nothing so i will use it to connect the new LED lights  to the other H4 light bulb connector that also is doing nothing right now, in between will install a toggle 3 positions switch that will command this LED's OFF in the center, ON with  high beams in the  position 1 at one end and ON  with low beams in the position 2 at the other end, this is easy for me to understand because I'm a auto mechanic and i know about electric circuits  and will be hard for anyone how don't know about
I will mount the  LED lamps under the mirrors, they have a thick metal bracket so i have to drill in the midle of the 3 bolts that hold the mirror to the mount and tap for a M 6 theads 
Any suggestion will be appreciated, I'm not a native English speaker so i apologize if my writing is hard to understand
Hope you guys understand what i mean
Thanks


Finilly finish this proyect, very happy with the lights, here are some pictures
([url]http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/led_210.jpg[/url])([url]http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/37754010.jpg[/url])([url]http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/led_110.jpg[/url])


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[url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290637265969?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/290637265969?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649[/url])
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Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: BJ_CT on January 08, 2012, 05:56:33 am
Looks great.  Perhaps not enough dirt on the bike but still great.  I really like the lights mounted under the mirrors.
 ;D
Title: Re: Driving Lights
Post by: Gildaguz on January 08, 2012, 06:50:13 pm
Here are some more pictures
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/dscn7815.jpg)(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/dscn7811.jpg)(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/dscn7812.jpg)