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Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« on: March 31, 2012, 05:06:09 pm »
I purchased a 2009 Concours about a month ago and have decided it is time to take the stock exhaust off.  I have been looking at the muzzy dual carbons for sometime now and decided this is what I am going to go with.  How easy is it to install this system? Did you have it remapped? I really like the way they look on some of the concourses I've seen posted here.  I'll do before and after shots and post later.  I'm just curious if this is something better left to have done in the shop or something I can do in my garage.  Anyone else having issues with the right side getting a little toasty on warm days?  I know the 2010-12 addressed this issue but I have a 09' and couldn't find a used 10' or 11' anywhere.  Any ideas?  Thanks all!!

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 05:44:43 pm »
I have the full Muzzys dual carbon fiber exhaust on my 09 and absolutely love it!!  :-*

Yes, with any full system you will need to remap, either reflash or PCV, I went with the PCV. I had my local shop do the install for me, I'll fully admit I'm no wrencher...






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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2012, 06:48:23 pm »
What's the difference between PCV and reflash?  Nice looking bike too!
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2012, 07:17:14 pm »
How has your fuel economy changed since using the full exhaust with an appropriate map? I only ask because I'm considering it too.  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2012, 10:21:43 pm »
What's the difference between PCV and reflash?  Nice looking bike too!

Thanks for compliment Mike.  :beerchug:

With a PCV you can have multiple maps and change maps, with the reflash you can't. I've heard that with the 10+ model w/traction control that you should reflash instead of PCV but I don't have any first hand knowledge as I ride an 09...
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2012, 10:24:02 pm »
How has your fuel economy changed since using the full exhaust with an appropriate map? I only ask because I'm considering it too.  Thanks in advance.

Mine hasn't changed but I also don't do much hwy at all and seem to always be getting on it... My ave mpg on the display is 32.1 and has been for as long as I can remember dating back to even before going to a full system...
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2012, 11:09:19 pm »
ZG:  you're aware you can reset your avg mpg, right?

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2012, 11:46:43 pm »
How has your fuel economy changed since using the full exhaust with an appropriate map? I only ask because I'm considering it too.  Thanks in advance.

Mine hasn't changed but I also don't do much hwy at all and seem to always be getting on it... My ave mpg on the display is 32.1 and has been for as long as I can remember dating back to even before going to a full system...

How many miles are on your trip meter when your fuel indicator starts flashing? 
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2012, 01:38:19 am »
ZG:  you're aware you can reset your avg mpg, right?

Huh??


Isn't it a running average??  :017:
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2012, 01:40:56 am »
How has your fuel economy changed since using the full exhaust with an appropriate map? I only ask because I'm considering it too.  Thanks in advance.


Mine hasn't changed but I also don't do much hwy at all and seem to always be getting on it... My ave mpg on the display is 32.1 and has been for as long as I can remember dating back to even before going to a full system...


How many miles are on your trip meter when your fuel indicator starts flashing?


Never looked, why? When it tells me to get gas I get gas... Am I doing something wrong and don't even know it??  :o
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 02:58:27 am »
By adding the dual exhaust does the bike seem to run any cooler? Especially on the right side on warm days.
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2012, 03:08:00 am »
By adding the dual exhaust does the bike seem to run any cooler? Especially on the right side on warm days.

I live in the PNW, we rarely have warm days unfortunately...  :'(
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2012, 08:17:01 pm »
I have the full Muzzys dual carbon fiber exhaust on my 09 and absolutely love it!!  :-*

Yes, with any full system you will need to remap, either reflash or PCV, I went with the PCV. I had my local shop do the install for me, I'll fully admit I'm no wrencher...





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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2012, 08:36:11 pm »
Beautiful bike ZG!

Thanks bro, much appreciated!  :beerchug:
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 02:49:58 pm »
I recently purchased an 09 that has the same exhaust system.  Personally it's a bit loud for me, not that I'm a stock exhaust fan.

I talked to Muzzy and they have a replacement baffle that they state is quieter.

It's not so much the noise from acceleration, but the pop when you let off the gas that I would like to tone down.

Anybody have any experiance with this setup?

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2012, 02:55:54 pm »
I recently purchased an 09 that has the same exhaust system.  Personally it's a bit loud for me, not that I'm a stock exhaust fan.

I talked to Muzzy and they have a replacement baffle that they state is quieter.

It's not so much the noise from acceleration, but the pop when you let off the gas that I would like to tone down.

Anybody have any experiance with this setup?


Marq,
You just need to plug your air intake, sounds like whoever installed your system didn't do that. It's a quick easy and cheap thing to do, once you do it you'll have no more pop on decel, I don't have any decel pop at all...
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<edit> here's a link for you Marq to show you how to block it...  :great:

http://www.holeshot.com/Concours_c14/c14decel_inst.html
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2012, 10:45:02 pm »
ZG, thanks.

The previous owner had this installed so I'm glad I asked.

Couple other questions.

Center stand, my bike does not have.  Saw that Muzzy has a "modified" stand. Is that what you have or can you describe what is different?

Your bike has an interesting rear storage/back rest piece.  Where did that come from?

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2012, 11:01:39 pm »
ZG, thanks.

The previous owner had this installed so I'm glad I asked.

Couple other questions.

Center stand, my bike does not have.  Saw that Muzzy has a "modified" stand. Is that what you have or can you describe what is different?

Your bike has an interesting rear storage/back rest piece.  Where did that come from?

Yes, I have the Muzzys modified center stand.

What you're seeing is the Corbin smuggler trunk, it's awesome IMO!
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2012, 11:49:56 pm »
Good to know about the hose ZG.  I'll remember that.  I'm ordering the same exhaust system with the PCV and center stand tomorrow.  I'm going to attempt to install it myself though, I'll let you know how that goes.  I really hope this helps with some of the heat issues I'm having on the right side.   :-\
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2012, 12:02:55 am »
Good to know about the hose ZG.  I'll remember that.  I'm ordering the same exhaust system with the PCV and center stand tomorrow.  I'm going to attempt to install it myself though, I'll let you know how that goes.  I really hope this helps with some of the heat issues I'm having on the right side.   :-\

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Post up some pics when you get it installed.
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2012, 09:59:25 pm »
I'm a fair wrench but getting to that air tube as the link described was not possible.  There is a structure piece that I had to remove and access was good. 

Hardest part was getting the hose back up into the grommet in the bottom of the air box which would have been impossible without getting two sets of fingers on it.

Anyway it's done, weather not cooperating for a test drive so in the next day of so I'll let you know the results.

Another positive outcome, was able to fix the door on the cener console, wasnt opening smoothly and found one of the springs was not set properly.

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2012, 11:57:06 pm »
I'm a fair wrench but getting to that air tube as the link described was not possible.  There is a structure piece that I had to remove and access was good. 

Hardest part was getting the hose back up into the grommet in the bottom of the air box which would have been impossible without getting two sets of fingers on it.

Anyway it's done, weather not cooperating for a test drive so in the next day of so I'll let you know the results.

Another positive outcome, was able to fix the door on the cener console, wasnt opening smoothly and found one of the springs was not set properly.


Sorry about your weather Marq, let us now once you get her back out on the road. I'm pretty confident this will have fixed your decel popping.  :)
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 02:42:49 am »
I'm a fair wrench but getting to that air tube as the link described was not possible.  There is a structure piece that I had to remove and access was good. 

Hardest part was getting the hose back up into the grommet in the bottom of the air box which would have been impossible without getting two sets of fingers on it.

Anyway it's done, weather not cooperating for a test drive so in the next day of so I'll let you know the results.

Another positive outcome, was able to fix the door on the cener console, wasnt opening smoothly and found one of the springs was not set properly.

Well I was hoping all the parts would be in by now but this is not the case.  I'm going out of town for the next few weeks so I'm just going to have a buddy of mine drop it off at the dealer once everything gets in and let my shop do the install.  So by the time I get back I can just get to riding again. 
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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2012, 02:43:16 am »
Well I guess i am late with my post. Been away for a long time. I put dual Muzzy's on in 2007 or early 2008. Went a long time before remapping as it is NOT necessary if you stay away from wide open throttle "WOT" Therefore if you want to try your system before getting a re-tune don't worry, just stay away from max power. I took my center stand off and never looked back.

Now if i could just find my bike,  left it somewhere in Utah, I think? First one posted "delivery" on old COG site

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Re: Dual Muzzy Exhaust question
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2012, 02:55:55 am »
Well I guess i am late with my post. Been away for a long time. I put dual Muzzy's on in 2007 or early 2008. Went a long time before remapping as it is NOT necessary if you stay away from wide open throttle "WOT" Therefore if you want to try your system before getting a re-tune don't worry, just stay away from max power. I took my center stand off and never looked back.

Now if i could just find my bike,  left it somewhere in Utah, I think? First one posted "delivery" on old COG site

I'm still waiting on everything to come in the mail.  I went ahead and got a PCV already premapped.  Hopefully by this time next week all parts will be here and installed.  I talked to Dave at muzzy who stated 2008-12 center kick stands are on back order through Kawasaki.  I'm just gonna pull mine off and mail it to them.  They will modify it, repaint it and ship it back ready to be installed.  Next I'm thinking I will end up changing out handle bars and installing Helibars horizon ST.  So much to do.
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