Author Topic: Fastest Uni-Go trailer  (Read 13476 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« on: August 19, 2014, 04:28:15 am »
After months of engineering, designing, thinking, thinking, thinking and then doing and re-doing I am finally finished with my Uni-Go trailer re-build.  I've always wanted a Uni-Go, being intrigued with the concept, but I had read many horror stories of wobbling, broken welds and no hitch for the Concours 14.  Anyway, here's my re-do.  I completely re-engineered the rear suspension, cut off the old swingarm mount, ditched the stock swingarm and springs and made my own.

The problem with a Uni-Go are three fold:  First, the suspension has a "reverse fulcrum" design, where the pivot point is closer to the load than the reaction, unlike every other suspension in the world.  This decreases the load on the spring, and decreases the travel.  I wanted MORE travel and more load on the spring so I could use more advanced, stiffer shocks.  Second, the suspension uses no rebound dampening (stock).. it is a spring and a rubber bumper.. big deal. Finally, the Uni-Go frame is weak and flexes under load (and I believe this is a huge source of all the wobbles reported out there).

I also bought and consulted with ThirdWheelTrailers.com who make a SUPERB sportbike hitch that fits the Connie and mounts to the axle and does NOT load the frame of the bike...  this is the cat's meow.  If I were buying new, I would get a Thirdwheel trailer (which has a torsion suspension) and forget the Uni-Go... though, I do love the Uni-Go shell... it is beautiful.

Anyway, here is my quick but dirty video.

http://youtu.be/8IYxYKPUv1s

Sorry, I don't know how to make the link better...  try this one?



As for the comments regarding loading the unsprung wheel.. sure, load the wheel and limit it's ability to react to smaller impacts... but loading the frame isn't free.  A traditional hitch is a complicated banana, especially when you ask it to transmit the torque of a one wheel trailer (not present on a two wheel trailer), so if you use a hitch designed for a two wheel, on a one wheel, you're asking to do things it wasn't designed to do... also, you're loading the tail of the bike, not a positive thing and lots of hitch mounts connect on the tail, again, not designed for loads, especially torsional loads...  then the loads have to make their way to the main frame and ulitmately to the suspension.. so it is negative as well.  Which negative is worse? 

When I take off my sport hitch, there is nothing on my bike.. except for little tiny spools at the axle, no one knows I tow a trailer.  Bonus.  Also, this hitch is specifically designed to transmit torque, it is made for single wheel trailers.  Finally, I've had the bike to 120 with it.  Set the throttle lock at 100, passed trucks, fast sweepers and mountain passes.  Most of the time I had no idea it is there, sometimes it lets me know.. heck it is a trailer!

The post really isn't about the hitch, you can argue with Juan (owner who is a prince of a guy) at Thirdwheeltrailers.com, I bought it commercially and he made it to fit my Uni-go.  The post is about my Uni-go, which performs amazingly and takes the hits and all that.

Tough board... ::)



John
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 12:02:45 pm by jshram »

Offline fartymarty

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1010
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: 9712
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2014, 04:39:15 am »

Very nice work on the trailer!

...... hitch that fits the Connie and mounts to the axle and does NOT load the frame of the bike...
I'm not so sure about that hitch, doesn't the tongue weight add to the un-sprung weight of the wheel?
 I'm no suspension Guru but I thought raising un-sprung weight was a bad thing.   ???
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 01:36:57 pm by fartymarty »

Offline Flat-spot

  • Sport Tourer
  • *****
  • Posts: 2518
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 11111
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 06:37:03 am »
Really nice work on the trailer frame and suspension, but I have to agree with Marty on this. Increasing un-sprung weight is always a bad thing. That's why every motorcycle trailer hitch out there reaches up to the subframe.

I hope it doesn't get ya into trouble.  It sure does look nice!


EDIT::: I stand corrected and educated a little on the hitch, thanks. And like I said, nice work and good lookin!
« Last Edit: August 19, 2014, 02:03:18 pm by Flat-spot »
'08 C14
There is no such thing as too much ammo, unless you are on fire or trying to swim.

Offline jwh20

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1985
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 10:32:58 am »
Unsprung weight is just one of many factors that impact vehicle handling.  The issue is that adding a trailer in any way negatively affects the handling of a motorcycle.  If you've ever driven a bike with a trailer, or ANY vehicle with a trailer, you know it handles much differently.

Unsprung weight is not the end-all of handling and since we're in a compromise situation anyway, attaching to the rear suspension like this is not necessarily the worst choice.
2012 Concours 14 Arabian Red
"Debbie Downer" according to some...

Offline C14lvr

  • Street Cruiser
  • ****
  • Posts: 859
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 11:31:31 am »
John, I'll delete this video link when you get your link working. It didn't work for me using Firefox.
http://youtu.be/8IYxYKPUv1s
Very nice work on the trailer.
...... hitch that fits the Connie and mounts to the axle and does NOT load the frame of the bike...

 I'm not so sure about that hitch, doesn't the tongue weight add to the un-sprung weight of the wheel?
 I'm no suspension Guru but I thought raising un-sprung weight was a bad thing.   ???


+1 Marty.
Link wouldn't work for me in Safari, either.

I have 2 friends that both have a Unigo. Stock form on both.
Both have pulled them many miles on trips, two up. They both love them.
They both ride BMW's...1150RT and an LT.

So far, after 3 years of use between them, the only thing we've found was a wheel bearing failure on the one pulled by the RT. Replaced bearings...ok.

These are great trailers, and love the u-joint hitches and single rear wheel.

I'm very interested to see your video, John. Hope you can repost a good link.
I wanna see what you did to yours.
Thanks,
Bob
2011 C14 ABS (current bike)
1982 Yamaha XJ1100J (sold)
1979 Yamaha XS11 (3200 original miles)
In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
"What we have here is a failure to communicate."

Offline C14lvr

  • Street Cruiser
  • ****
  • Posts: 859
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 11:38:27 am »
John,
I found your video.
2011 C14 ABS (current bike)
1982 Yamaha XJ1100J (sold)
1979 Yamaha XS11 (3200 original miles)
In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
"What we have here is a failure to communicate."

Offline The Pope

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1805
  • North Carolina AAD
  • AREA: Southeast Area
  • COG#: 9994
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 12:28:46 pm »
Hey John, can you post more photos of the axle area / how it's all attached to the bike? Please.  ;D

Also, Very Nice job on the rework of the Uni-Go!  :great:
The Pope
2011 Atomic Silver C-14 (aka TheImprovedSilverDammit)

"The Universe is a contest between engineers making things idiot-proof and God making bigger idiots. So far, God is winning by a wide margin." (Unknown author, well I don't know who said it.)

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2014, 02:13:42 pm »
Quote
Hey John, can you post more photos of the axle area / how it's all attached to the bike? Please.

I'd be happy to.  I work in Vegas and go home on weekends so I'll get to it when I get back on Saturday (bike is in Utah).  It really is slick, takes about 20 minutes to get your trailer rolling with this hitch after it shows up on your doorstep... wiring becomes the biggest deal (which I haven't done yet). 

John


Offline fartymarty

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1010
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: 9712
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2014, 02:16:04 pm »

As for the comments regarding loading the unsprung wheel.. sure, load the wheel and limit it's ability to react to smaller impacts... but loading the frame isn't free.  A traditional hitch is a complicated banana, especially when you ask it to transmit the torque of a one wheel trailer (not present on a two wheel trailer), so if you use a hitch designed for a two wheel, on a one wheel, you're asking to do things it wasn't designed to do... also, you're loading the tail of the bike, not a positive thing and lots of hitch mounts connect on the tail, again, not designed for loads, especially torsional loads...  then the loads have to make their way to the main frame and ulitmately to the suspension.. so it is negative as well.  Which negative is worse? 

 Also, this hitch is specifically designed to transmit torque, it is made for single wheel trailers.  Finally, I've had the bike to 120 with it.  Set the throttle lock at 100, passed trucks, fast sweepers and mountain passes.  Most of the time I had no idea it is there, sometimes it lets me know.. heck it is a trailer!

The post really isn't about the hitch, you can argue with Juan (owner who is a prince of a guy) at Thirdwheeltrailers.com, I bought it commercially and he made it to fit my Uni-go.  The post is about my Uni-go, which performs amazingly and takes the hits and all that.

Tough board... ::)


Sorry, I didn't want to argue with anybody. Some good points you made about one kind of compromise vs. another kind of compromise...and I did forget about the torsional load that your trailer would present vs. a two wheeled trailer.

Again nice work, I need to learn how to weld someday.

fyi for those drawn to this thread, I found this site for additional info on one wheeled trailers:http://www.singlewheel.com/ (note use the scroll bar on the left to see motorcycle trailers)

Offline Steamer

  • Mini Bike
  • **
  • Posts: 133
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 9796
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2014, 03:00:30 pm »
Help! I don't understand the term "unstrung weight"?
How does this negatively impact the handling of the bike?
I do a lot of two up long haul touring and loading the Connie with a top case works well with the exception of slow speed handling and stopping.
Would a trailer be a better option for handling?
Any advice/education is appreciated.

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2014, 04:53:18 pm »
Unsprung weight means the wheel, which rolls along the bumpy road, carries weight... of course it always carries it's own weight and MFGs try to reduce that (hence single sided swingarms) so that the mass/momentum of the wheel can react faster to a bump (on object at rest tends to stay at rest and an object in motion tends to stay in motion) making for a smoother ride, and more control because if the wheel keeps perfect contact with the ground, your friction with the tire is at its best.  If you have unsprung weight, that weight is only separated from the road by the tire's air.. (ever ride a mountain bike without suspension?)   and it could theoretically bounce and reduce friction patch on the up-cycles.

 But, everything is a trade off.... I don't like top cases, rode with them for years on my Trophy 1200 and my ST1300.  They put weight way up high and WAY off the tail of the bike... they act like a sail in the wind and the tail of the bike really isn't designed for much weight.  No matter how you load it, tail weight affects the entire suspension of the bike negatively... same is true with a traditional trailer hitch EXCEPT that the weight is not up high so it's forces are different... and negative.  The trick, of course, is to decide which "negative" is best for you.  As I said, I don't like top boxes (though they are handy) and I didn't want a two wheel trailer.  I wanted a trailer that would let me ride my Connie the way it is designed to ride (aggressive)... that is ONLY a single wheel trailer.

As was pointed out, this hitch loads the wheel, which is negative. But I believe that this is insignificant compared to the negative affects of torsion.  With the extended hitch on the "sport bike" hitch, the ratio of trailer wheel weight to tongue weight is probably 1/4 or 1/5....  The Uni-Go with a standard hitch is 1/3 (2/3 of the weight on the rear trailer wheel, 1/3 on the tongue).  Since the Sportbike hitch is longer, the ratio decreases (more weight on the rear wheel compared to the tongue, which attaches to the axle)... so, let's say your loaded trailer is 100lbs, then the weight on the rear wheel of the bike is 25lbs... not a lot considering you put 25lbs easily into a top box which is high and way back behind the bike.

A motorcycle's toughest job is to transfer torsional load.  When you turn your handlebars (counter steer) the rotational vectors cause the FRONT wheel to lean over the opposite way (turn right, go left).  That force that leans the bike over comes ONLY from the front wheel and is carried through the forks, triple tree, frame to the rear wheel which has to be FORCED OVER since it doesn't turn right, go left.  This is why the advent of the delta-box frame was so revolutionary.  Basically all that torsion is designed to focus on the rear swing-arm pivot point and then through the swing arm to the rear wheel.  If we wanted to "ideally" transfer torsion to a trailer, the best place would be the swing arm pivot point, it is sprung, inside the geometry of the bike frame and low... but that ain't going to happen... the next best place to transfer torsion, a place designed by the manufacturer to transfer torsional load, is the rear wheel axle.

Not sure that answers your question, but that is how my Engineering mind worked (Alaska PE since 1992) through this project...

Do what works best for you!  The top box is great, I went all over the country with my wife equipped like that... I like the Uni-go better.  Much more room (MUCH-MUCH), less weight on the bike, handles better (so far)... the bad, one more wheel on the ground, a trailer to deal with, can't back it up (you can, but I think it is like an art form or something).... another mechanical device.

And sorry I was over-sensitive to the questions about un-spring loading.... I did indeed logic it through as well....

John


Offline Steamer

  • Mini Bike
  • **
  • Posts: 133
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 9796
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2014, 05:07:23 pm »
John, thanks for the explanation. Really liked the detail and I understood most of you description.
I have never really like riding two up with a fully packed bike. Done it for many years with mostly good results.
I have ordered a "Third Wheel" trailer with the sport hitch.
Planning a trip down the Calif coast with my wife and the trailer seems like the best way to go.
Again thanks and you did an incredible job modifying you trailer.

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2014, 05:33:33 pm »
Quote
I have ordered a "Third Wheel" trailer with the sport hitch.

Awesome!  Be sure to post pics and give a report...  Juan will take care of you.  He's a great guy, busier than a hoot-owl, but a great guy.

If you ride a lot of two-up, I've come up with a fairly simple design to add 4x8 passenger floor boards, lowered 3".  I'll be fabricating them this weekend and will snap pics of that as well (welding is such a handy skill).  The passenger foot pegs leave a lot to be desired... wife can't move her feet around at all, causing strain on her legs/knees. 

Taking the wife to Michigan next week from Utah and back.... hence the trailer and stuff.

John

Online MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9681
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2014, 07:06:46 pm »
John, super job on the trailer mods, that was one of the reasons I didn't buy a Unigo all along; well, that and I wanted to haul more, and didn't want to give up half the cost of my bike to buy a trailer... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Seriously tho, you did a nice job and answerd the shortcomings of Unigo's design.

as for the hitch thing I do have a different opinion, but we all can justify what we feel is adequate.
I have a frame mounted hitch, made by Bushtek, whom I will never say makes good product... I repeat, they suck when it comes to quality.
I did have to completely re-work (cut off mounting tabs, reposition, rebend, and re-weld, the whole assembly... then repaint it).
It cost about $400 delivered, and I put that much again into it in time based on my wages...

The tongue attachment is a ball type, but does sit at the level of the axle, and it is a robust tube assembly, tied to good reliable and strong hardpoints of the bike.
The carry capacity on the Unigo is less than half the capacity of my Harbor Freight toter, because I can balance my load directly over the 2 wheeled axle on the HF. I have hauled 200# in it at 90+ mph, did panic stops, and evasive manouvers, without ever feeling it effect the bikes handling (pushing, transverse twisting, rear end jacking, etc.). At that weight, the tongue weight is still about 20#.

I've always wanted a Unigo, but in the long run put my system together for much less than $1k, I'm constantly looking in the mirrors to see if the trailer is there.. :rotflmao:

post up some pictures of the hitch interface to the trailer, I saw how the thirdwheel thing attaches to the axle, but would like to see the area between that and trailer...

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2014, 10:11:11 pm »
I'm with you on the cost of a Uni-Go... that's what took me so long to get one.  I picked this one up, used, for $500.  Re-painted it for $300 (painter gave me a great deal), put about $250 in re-build parts into it and the sport-hitch was the most expensive part, $600 or so.    Not bad for an essentially a new trailer and hitch when done.  The Uni-Go is beautiful.

JH

Offline freebird6

  • Street Cruiser
  • ****
  • Posts: 951
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 11012
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2014, 11:34:37 pm »
Love this thread. My gramps had a one wheel trailer he towed behind his Corvair (trucks)

Between the truck pictured below and the one wheel trailer in the same color he got lots of comments. I always liked the spinner knob he had on the steering wheel



Anyone know who belongs to this unit I found perusing the one wheeled trailer site.


Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2014, 07:09:05 pm »
Trailer connection and my latest addition to the trailer, a little handle.  The trailer is top-heavy and when you pick it up with the yoke, it wants to fall over.  The handle cures that problem (either the factory one, or a home-made one).

John







Offline freebird6

  • Street Cruiser
  • ****
  • Posts: 951
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 11012
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 02:06:19 pm »
Really nice.

saw one of these go up for sale on the BMW site  http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=900928&gonew=1#UNREAD

Online MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9681
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 05:34:11 pm »
Nice job there John, I kind like that,

I will suggest tho, after looking at your pictures, that you install a cotter pin in the axle nut like its supposed to have... mmmmkayyy
Not that it will come off, but we have sen strange things happen if that nut loosens, like the brake arm/spacer/bushing/bearing& swing arm kinda all weld together into a molton mess...always pin that nut, its a visual confirmation that its tight and has not moved.
 :great: :beerchug:

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...

Offline jshram

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 58
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: 11036
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 12:06:42 pm »
Sound advice.  The hitch-shaft goes through the axle so you can no longer put in the cotter key. Mfg. says to buy an aircraft nut, but I couldn't find one that big, so I lock-tighted the crap out of it.

Well, 850 miles into my trip and everything is going swimmingly.  Back roads of Nevada and Utah, throttle lock on at 85mph (GPS - 90mph indicated) pretty much the whole way with zero issues.  Loving it..   My only complaint is the swirl-wind from a big truck and a heavy cross wind will occasionally make the bike sway just like my ST1300 with the top-box did... no biggie though.

Jackson Hole and Yellowstone today!  Sweet.

John

Offline JimBob

  • Sport Tourer
  • *****
  • Posts: 2833
  • Woman...WHOAAAA MAN!
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2014, 01:54:31 pm »
Wow, nice work!

I'd never heard of these trailers before. Really cool solution, though I don't see much advantage to it (does it weigh any less than a conventional 2 wheel?). Of course, I've never ridden with a trailer, so my opinion is only from thinking about the geometries and forces, so I'm likely missing something. That and I don't ride fast (my body is broken enough - I'm rather risk-averse now).

Side questions - does anyone know what the latches are called that connect the trailer to the bike? Looks like a form of a clevis.

My idea is to use them to make my own "Biker Bar" (see the other thread), using the tipover bars. My trailer has walls, so I could mount them to the sides on a hinge.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 02:00:28 pm by JimBob »

Online MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9681
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2014, 02:29:59 pm »
Sound advice.  The hitch-shaft goes through the axle so you can no longer put in the cotter key. Mfg. says to buy an aircraft nut, but I couldn't find one that big, so I lock-tighted the crap out of it.

Jackson Hole and Yellowstone today!  Sweet.

John

Ooops... my bad....needed more coffee before my post... carry on.  :beerchug:

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...

Offline The Pope

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1805
  • North Carolina AAD
  • AREA: Southeast Area
  • COG#: 9994
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2014, 05:28:49 pm »
Sound advice.  The hitch-shaft goes through the axle so you can no longer put in the cotter key. Mfg. says to buy an aircraft nut, but I couldn't find one that big, so I lock-tighted the crap out of it.

Take a paint pen and place a mark going from the nut to the washer and alu arm of the bike. This way you can tell by just looking.

The Pope
2011 Atomic Silver C-14 (aka TheImprovedSilverDammit)

"The Universe is a contest between engineers making things idiot-proof and God making bigger idiots. So far, God is winning by a wide margin." (Unknown author, well I don't know who said it.)

Offline Jon

  • Mini Bike
  • **
  • Posts: 176
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 05:57:11 pm »
Sound advice.  The hitch-shaft goes through the axle so you can no longer put in the cotter key. Mfg. says to buy an aircraft nut, but I couldn't find one that big, so I lock-tighted the crap out of it.

Take a paint pen and place a mark going from the nut to the washer and alu arm of the bike. This way you can tell by just looking.

I was having some odd chain slack in my 750 last year. Did very similar, but used my wife's purple nail polish!  :))

Online MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9681
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Fastest Uni-Go trailer
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2014, 07:36:46 pm »
That was gonna be my next suggestion, ya beat me to it... I frequently do that on critical bolted connections, making sure I goober it on good at the parting line... you can imediatly see if it loosens.
In my industry we use stuff called Tork-Seal, it flourescent orange goop that hardens quickly, but if you break the seal it chips right off, giving verification of tampering. We use it on high ampereage copper bus bar connections where you need to visually verify, because sticking a torque wrench on a bolt carrying 4000 amps or more just ain't a good idea.... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...