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Title: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Biknmike on October 16, 2010, 12:27:11 pm
New to the Sport Touring world so bear with me.  I am looking for frame sliders that will fit the 2010 c14 and does not ruin the look of the bike.  Does anyone know if the GSG-Moto's fit with the new style fairing on the 2010?
Switched from a Nomad to a Concours this week and loving it so far!
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Bob on October 27, 2010, 02:56:05 am
A couple weeks ago I installed frame sliders on my 2010 C14.
http://projektd.com
1 x GTR1400 / Concours 14 '10 Full Slider Kit (103-10) = $239.00
I am very please with how they look.  All black and they blend into bike well.
Installation was very easy for the front and rear wheel sliders.  Taking the plastic body panels off was the hardest part.  Very pleased with the results.  Wish I would of put them on before dropping my Connie twice, once on each side!
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Cap'n Bob on October 27, 2010, 07:27:20 am
Photo's?
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Relic on November 22, 2010, 06:07:49 pm
I put the GSG-Moto Framesliders from twisted throttle on last spring. 15 Minutes to install no fairing mods required. Whoops! high sided the bike in September, NO DAMAGE except for scratches on the bags. They worked great for me. Ping me if you need additional.

Relic
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Necron99 on December 19, 2010, 03:35:25 pm
To what do they attach?  Is it a bar that goes all the way through or does each side attach to something?
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: WilliGoat on June 23, 2011, 01:00:24 pm
Anyone have experience with the R&G Adventure Bars?  I'm trying to decide between those and the Projekt D slider kit.  If anyone has the Adventure Bars, pics would be great.  I'd like to see a better view of how far they extend from the fairing.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 23, 2011, 03:56:51 pm
I'm real impressed with the Top Block tip over protection. It isn't cheap, but I think its the best solution currently out there.

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/topblock

(http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/image/134427955/medium.jpg)

Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Cap'n Bob on June 23, 2011, 05:47:13 pm
I agree Fred! And by far the best looking. Although, they won't double as handicap bathroom bars like some of the others!  :))
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Jagman on June 23, 2011, 09:29:12 pm
Wow I like those a lot!
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 24, 2011, 12:52:26 am
In this photo, you can see the hidden front supports that connect to the engine and how the whole system is connected. It really is extremely robust.

You do have to make a 1 inch hole in the lower black panel to connect the front of the sliders to the engine braces. That is the only real drawback I have found to them. But I think a simple 1 inch black plug would easily cover the holes if I ever decided to remove them for any reason.

(http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/image/134427754/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: wally_games on June 24, 2011, 10:03:22 pm
They look great! But, how much do they cost and how long did it take to install them?  Drilling the hole seems to be the only scary part. :-\

Did you go with the other tip over protection pieces that are made by Top Block?
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Necron99 on June 24, 2011, 10:21:14 pm
Yeah, Fred, how much did they run to get here to the US?  That hole scares the bejeezus out of me to think about drilling, I'll be totally honest.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: PdLt on June 24, 2011, 10:26:09 pm
They look good from the pic.  I wish you could show us some more from some other angles.  Could you realistically put a foot up on them to give you another riding position for few minutes.  Something to give your knees a break?
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 25, 2011, 01:56:11 am
Yeah, Fred, how much did they run to get here to the US?  That hole scares the bejeezus out of me to think about drilling, I'll be totally honest.


You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

They look good from the pic.  I wish you could show us some more from some other angles.


I have a whole bunch more photos of them from all angles in a gallery here if you want to see them. I even layed the bike down and shot photos of it resting on them.

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/topblock

They sell for about $560, plus shipping from France, which takes about 10 days and cost another $50 or so.

If you are interested, the best way to contact them is to  email Tatiana at:
commercial-AT-top-block.com 

Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Necron99 on June 25, 2011, 02:31:40 am
I don't fear the holes, I fear the misplacement thereof.  :)  A misbroken egg is easy to fix.  A misdrilled hole - not so much.  LOL  Thanks for the info, Fred.  You rock.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 25, 2011, 11:38:32 am
Tatiana said she would do a 10% discount on orders of 10 or more, so if someone wants to put together a group buy, they will support that. You might also be able to save some on shipping if you got them all shipped to one location and then shipped them back out from there. You'd have to check with her and see how they wanted to handle shipping.

I don't fear the holes, I fear the misplacement thereof.  :)  A misbroken egg is easy to fix.  A misdrilled hole - not so much.  LOL  Thanks for the info, Fred.  You rock.

One thing I did when I drilled the hole to make sure it was in the right spot was I first mounted the engine brace, and then drilled a smaller pilot hole and made sure it was lined up correct before I drilled the bigger hole. The instructions give you exact measurements on where to drill it, and I followed them to the letter, and it positioned my holes perfectly.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Necron99 on June 26, 2011, 01:29:32 am
Cool.  Here's my next question.  I'm looking at the picture below and I'm wondering, if you go down with momentum, how likely is it that the bike would go "over" the slider and end up on the mirror, top of the side fairing and tank?

(http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/image/134427772/medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 26, 2011, 01:47:03 am
Cool.  Here's my next question.  I'm looking at the picture below and I'm wondering, if you go down with momentum, how likely is it that the bike would go "over" the slider and end up on the mirror, top of the side fairing and tank?


In a crash, all bets are off. These are designed for no-speed/low-speed drops. No one in the world makes protection for bikes that are crashed at speed.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Cap'n Bob on June 26, 2011, 09:25:12 am
Cool.  Here's my next question.  I'm looking at the picture below and I'm wondering, if you go down with momentum, how likely is it that the bike would go "over" the slider and end up on the mirror, top of the side fairing and tank?

([url]http://i.pbase.com/g4/41/9841/2/134427772.47k8iZBD.jpg[/url])


(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/redxspooftd8.gif)

Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on June 26, 2011, 08:00:46 pm
I fixed the broken link.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: rcannon409 on August 03, 2011, 11:04:29 pm
I added a set of the gsg sliders today.  Twisted Throttle was awesome to deal with.  The sliders fit well and look good.

I dont see how they can be as strong as the set from France, but the cost is half as much and no holes.   At this point a picture would be nice.  If I had the intelligence to post one, I would. Here is a link.  http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/3931/602/

The fit against the frame is very snug. 
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 03, 2011, 11:24:15 pm
I'm real impressed with the Top Block tip over protection. It isn't cheap, but I think its the best solution currently out there.

[url]http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/topblock[/url]

([url]http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/image/134427955/medium.jpg[/url])


+1... "TBR" is quality product!!  :13:

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00194-20110408-1706.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00198-20110408-1708.jpg)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00197-20110408-1707-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Bagger on August 04, 2011, 12:41:49 am
I added a set of the gsg sliders today.  Twisted Throttle was awesome to deal with.  The sliders fit well and look good.

I dont see how they can be as strong as the set from France, but the cost is half as much and no holes.   At this point a picture would be nice.  If I had the intelligence to post one, I would. Here is a link.  [url]http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/3931/602/[/url]

The fit against the frame is very snug.


409 ... can you show us a photo of the bike on the side with the sliders in place?  I know you said you aren't that savvy with tech stuff ... neither am I.  But, folks here will help you if you try to post the photos.  I'd like to see the bike on it's side with the sliders.  I think these look better than the one's above.  Just my opinion, tho.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: rcannon409 on August 04, 2011, 02:11:58 am
Bagger, I have a strong friend coming over this weekend, so I'll see if he can be near as I tip it over.  I've never leaned this bike over that far, so I dont want to attempt it alone.  I do want to see it.....
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: wally_games on August 04, 2011, 05:11:30 pm
ZG,

What are the sliders in your picture? They look different than Fred's. I like the visible support better on your pics, less like a tube and more like a casting.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 04, 2011, 05:21:03 pm
ZG,

What are the sliders in your picture? They look different than Fred's. I like the visible support better on your pics, less like a tube and more like a casting.

WG,
My Connie is an 09, the 08/09 Top Block sliders are a different design then the 10/11 ones.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: PdLt on August 05, 2011, 12:33:38 am
I would buy these in a heartbeat, but i know I would screw up drilling the plastic.  Scares me and im not confident doing that.  Otherwise they are sweet!
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: wally_games on August 05, 2011, 01:42:19 am
ZG,

What are the sliders in your picture? They look different than Fred's. I like the visible support better on your pics, less like a tube and more like a casting.

WG,
My Connie is an 09, the 08/09 Top Block sliders are a different design then the 10/11 ones.

Bummer. No offense to Fred but yours are much nicer looking, although I think they both look pretty good.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 05, 2011, 01:53:09 am
ZG,

What are the sliders in your picture? They look different than Fred's. I like the visible support better on your pics, less like a tube and more like a casting.

WG,
My Connie is an 09, the 08/09 Top Block sliders are a different design then the 10/11 ones.

Bummer. No offense to Fred but yours are much nicer looking, although I think they both look pretty good.

Well that seems only fair, because Fred himself is much better looking than I am...  ;)

Thanks WG!  :beerchug:
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: att on August 07, 2011, 03:53:06 pm
Hi,

Anybody could help me for a direct contact info to Top-block ??  I tried last week on their website but still dont have yet any reply from them

Thanks

at
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 07, 2011, 04:02:23 pm
Hi,

Anybody could help me for a direct contact info to Top-block ??  I tried last week on their website but still dont have yet any reply from them

Thanks

at

Most of Europe shuts down for a couple months during the summer, my guess is that's the case and why they aren't responding to you...
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: att on August 07, 2011, 04:09:15 pm
Thanks ZG, so there s no other way to buy it now then wait for some time more till they reply to my mail ??

at
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 07, 2011, 04:13:04 pm
Thanks ZG, so there s no other way to buy it now then wait for some time more till they reply to my mail ??

at

I'm afraid not... sorry.  :(
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Fred_Harmon_TX on August 07, 2011, 11:43:48 pm
Hi,

Anybody could help me for a direct contact info to Top-block ??  I tried last week on their website but still dont have yet any reply from them

Thanks

at

I just got an email from Tatiana at Top Block on Friday. I'd suggest you email her direct.
commercial(AT)top-block.com

Just replace (AT) with @
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on August 08, 2011, 01:11:52 am
Hi,

Anybody could help me for a direct contact info to Top-block ??  I tried last week on their website but still dont have yet any reply from them

Thanks

at

I just got an email from Tatiana at Top Block on Friday. I'd suggest you email her direct.
commercial(AT)top-block.com

Just replace (AT) with @

+1 on Tatiana, she's the best and who I worked with for mine! If Fred just got an email from her they must be open.  :whoo:
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: att on August 08, 2011, 01:53:56 am
Thanks alot Fred, i will do it now.

Actually i have the Projekt D Frame Sliders from the 1st day i got my Connie, but cannot resist the Top-block ones after seeing your pix, i think you are accused for a few of my spending  :)) :)) :))

Thanks alot for all the help you (and others) bring to us

at
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ACCBiker on August 12, 2011, 12:39:00 am
Thanks alot Fred, i will do it now.

Actually i have the Projekt D Frame Sliders from the 1st day i got my Connie, but cannot resist the Top-block ones after seeing your pix, i think you are accused for a few of my spending  :)) :)) :))

Thanks alot for all the help you (and others) bring to us

at

If you go ahead and get the Top-block ones, please let me know if you want to sell your Projekt D Frame Sliders.

-David
Athens, GA
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: att on August 15, 2011, 12:57:08 pm
Hi,

I would love to but you probably wouldn't like the shipping cost : i m from Vietnam so shipping it out is equal or might cost even more than shipping cost from Taiwan :D

at
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: nsmisner on August 15, 2011, 05:57:11 pm
I have the Pojekt D sliders on a 2010.  I had a 40mph(I checked the gps track when I got home) low-side at the national rally in VT last week.  I just had a few scrapes and bruises.  Here is what my bike looked like. 

http://community.webshots.com/album/580728475JHmjMq (http://community.webshots.com/album/580728475JHmjMq)

Someone else high-sided a 2011 on the same corner.  The tupperware looked about the same but his water pump was broken off.  I was able to ride mine back to the resort after the great folks at Pro Cycle in Clarendon got my bike into 2nd grear (the shifter and footpeg are broken off).  They also put a long bolt into a hole for the footpeg so I had someplace to rest my foot.  The saddle bag broke off right away, so it is not scratched too bad but the front mounting hook is gone.  With all the wear on the sliders I think they must have saved some damage to the bike.  The front slider bent forward some. 

I have to say that under the circumstances I'm not unhappy with the Projekt D sliders.  On the other hand I think I'll try the Top Block sliders when I put the bike back together.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Cap'n Bob on August 15, 2011, 08:40:54 pm
Noah,

          If you don't mind me asking. Where did y'all crash? I heard that people had gone down, but no real specifics. I wasn't sure if there were two or three incidents. I guess that you just confirmed the second and third.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: nsmisner on August 15, 2011, 09:15:50 pm
It was on Hwy 140 westbound east of Wallingford.  GPS 43.456065,-72.936312

Down hill left hand turn with a little sand on the road sent me onto the shoulder.  I low sided trying to get back onto road so that I didn't hit the guard rail.  The guy from Pro Cycle that picked us up said he had picked up another guy the day before at the same time of day on the same bike.  Steve, the other guy, was also from Minnesota.  He got the "Unfortunate" award at the banquet.

Yara (aka Pocahontas) said that I was the 3rd crash.  Whoever the 1st one was had a broken rib.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Cap'n Bob on August 15, 2011, 11:11:40 pm
 The first crash was a couple that low sided avoiding a deer, coming back from NH. They road the bike back to Mt. Snow. But went to the hospital the next morning with a lot of pain. IIRC Both riders had injuries from the crash. If they wind up reading this, I wish them well. As well as the two of you who now share memories from a common piece of real estate in Vermont.
 Unfortunately 140 was a little rougher than last year when I planned the route for the national rally. I love 140 but now feel bad that two different people had issues on it.  :(
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: nsmisner on August 15, 2011, 11:57:17 pm
I only blame myself. I entered too fast on a corner that I could not see all the way through.  I was going faster than my sight distance allowed. If there had been a deer or a stalled car(or a crashed Connie) in the same spot on the road I would have been in bigger trouble.

This is my only crash in 5 years of riding. I never crashed my 2002 Concours but dropped it a few times. I've never dropped my 2010 but now I have crashed it.

I'm fortunate that nobody was hurt badly and my insurance will cover the bike damage minus my deductible. Plus since I crashed on Thursday I didn't miss out on much riding.

Thanks for your contributions to a great rally.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ACCBiker on August 16, 2011, 12:16:06 am
Hi,

I would love to but you probably wouldn't like the shipping cost : i m from Vietnam so shipping it out is equal or might cost even more than shipping cost from Taiwan :D

at

Thanks anyway.

Ride safe.

-David
Athens, GA
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ACCBiker on August 16, 2011, 12:18:58 am
I'm fortunate that nobody was hurt badly and my insurance will cover the bike damage minus my deductible. Plus since I crashed on Thursday I didn't miss out on much riding.

Glad to hear that you are okay.  I hate hearing about anyone going down.  We all know that it is a possibility each time we ride and even though we ride within our limits, but just a split second can change an enjoyable ride into a very bad day.

-David
Athens, GA
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: Mad River Marc on August 17, 2011, 06:24:20 pm
Glad to hear that you are ok.  The bike can be fixed, as long as you are ok that is what matters :)
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: sfsokc on March 01, 2012, 12:13:15 am
So.... is there anyone out there that can post pics of the GSG sliders with the Concours leaned over? Yes, almost all of us agree that the Top Blocks should work well and look good.  But nearly $700 is a robbery! (over twice the cost of the GSGs).  Surely somebody has them that knows how to post pics.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ChipDoc on March 01, 2012, 12:22:40 am
$700 for the Top Blocks is certainly pricey, but it isn't robbery.  If you want to see robbery, check out the prices on replacing the plastic...
 :-[
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: ZG on March 01, 2012, 12:24:37 am
$700 for the Top Blocks is certainly pricey, but it isn't robbery.  If you want to see robbery, check out the prices on replacing the plastic...
 :-[

 :iagree:
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: TJ on March 01, 2012, 12:53:38 am
There is a member who almost has his slider design ready for manufacturing.  Should be 2-3 weeks away.  It is based on the same idea as the TOP Block but hopefully much cheaper.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: RideBellChain on March 01, 2012, 01:01:52 am
I just ordered the complete set too from ProjeKt, too.

Second thoughts after seeing the damage, and wondering if the Top ones fair any better?

:)
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: MidlifeCrisis on March 02, 2012, 01:33:05 pm
I was seriously considering ProjektD slider set, but shipping from Taiwan was a killer.  I did order some smaller/lighter farkles from them and the shipping was not too bad.

I ended up getting the GSG sliders from http://www.pca-one.com/productDetail.asp?productID=6974&RetURL=search&search=bike&bikeType=&bikeMake=Kawasaki&bikeModel=Concours (http://www.pca-one.com/productDetail.asp?productID=6974&RetURL=search&search=bike&bikeType=&bikeMake=Kawasaki&bikeModel=Concours) 1400&bikeYear=2009  Their price is one of low lowest - probably the lowest if you factor in free shipping.  I will be installing them this weekend.

I think they are all good for tipovers from standing still or at very low speed.  Higher speed offs are gonna tear up your bike, whatever sliders you have.

I like the GSG because it is probably the easiest to install, relatively inexpensive, and Looks reasonably unobtrusive.  I got the "clear" option, which I think looks better on my red C14.
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: RideBellChain on March 03, 2012, 12:47:49 am
The install looks much less involved, but I think you're getting more for your money with the Projekt package.  Hopefully we'll never find out how well they work...  :)

Ride Safe,
Mark
Title: Re: Frame Sliders for 2010 c14
Post by: skisby on February 22, 2015, 11:56:36 am
No updates on this recently but I'm looking at the Top Block or Canyon Cages & found the Top Block's are now avail in the US [http://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=504]