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Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« on: May 01, 2012, 10:51:50 am »
I have to review my new Cal Sci windshield. 

First off, I have to say that I'm not sure which is better----The product or the service.

Ill start with the windshield.  I put the XL on in about 5 minutes.  Its truly simple if anyone out there is mechanically challenged, don't worry about it.  All you need is a allen wrench set.  A torque wrench is handy, but not completely necessary.  In no time, my wife and I were running toward the nearest interstate to see if the windshield worked as advertised.  I left the windshield down in the lowest position on the way.  It is about as tall as the stock windshield at full height.  When we hit the highway and settled into interstate speeds, I raised it up to the highest level.  WOW!  I was pretty skeptical, but when that baby got to full height, it was extremely quiet. There was no more buffeting.  It was extremely peaceful.  If I had to estimate, Id guess that it cut 3/4 of the wind noise.  If I forget to put in my earplugs, I don't expect to go deaf in one afternoon. 

I didn't realize how bad the stock windshield was until the wife and I hit the road on Saturday toward southern Indiana's best version of twisties (State road 66 east from Cannelton to State Road 62 East to Leavenworth). We just kept riding until hours later we found ourselves stranded under a bank drive through waiting for a nasty storm to pass.  The pleasant ride (due to the windshield) made me lose track of time and the weather. The Cal Sci will definitely keep you from getting beaten to death by noise, turbulence, and back pressure. 

The airflow at full height is greatly reduced, so it is warmer than stock.  However, lowered all of the way down, the windscreen still delivers a blast of air to my helmet and cools things down a bit.  Its not quite as good as the stock windshield for blasting air into your chest, but its worth the tradeoff for me. 

Now to Cal Sci's service:  It is top notch. I went conservative and ordered a large instead of an extra large.  I followed the inseam and height recommendation on the web site and chose the large even though I suspected that I would prefer the taller one.  I also succumbed to vanity.  I think the shorter windshields look better.  Anyway, it takes about a week for me to get anything ordered from California.  The Cal Sci windshield was no exception.  I was concerned about the weeks shipping when sending the Large back and waiting for the weeks shipping waiting for the Extra Large.  I am heading to the Blue Ridge Parkway and Robbinsville area for a week and the shipping time would be cutting it close.  I contacted Mark Lawrence at Cal Sci and told him that Id be happy to pay for a new windshield and when he got the first one back, he could credit my account if he found it in acceptable condition.  The next email I received from him told me that the XL was on the way and that I owed him an windshield.  He did not charge my card again.  I shipped him the first one back and was riding on the new one in a week all ready for my trip. I simply couldn't be happier with the product and Cal Sci.

If your thinking of considering a new windshield, try them out.  http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Concoursprod.html 
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 11:27:41 am »
I have the 17" one, after riding with it for a month or so, i now know i should have bought the tall, am pretty happy with it, the wife still gets some wind noise, so i know the tall would've been perfect, but she don't mind that much, maybe the next one.

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 03:05:44 pm »
I had a great experience with CalSci, they shipped my tall about 12 hours after I placed the order, and I had it 4 days later. (I was cheap on the shipping method).

So far, being as I'm only 5'10" on a good day, with the shield all the way up its quiet as could be. With it all the way down the air stream hits me from the upper chest upward. In between are lots of options.

Of all the things I've changed, the shield and the Baldwin GT saddle are tied for most important to enjoying the ride. If I had to give one up, I'd give the Baldwin up. But not without a fight.  >:D
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 01:38:42 pm »
Astros50:  you went with the XL - what's your height?  The Cal Sci fitting chart is confusing - for a given rider height, the longer the inseam, the shorter the shield.  I'm 6'2" with a 35" inseam.  Thinking of going with XL height, but unsure.
I've also read all the posts on aftermarket shields, but I still haven't been able to pull the trigger on a purchase.  Sounds like the CalSci is the best as far as cutting down on turbulence, but they scratch easier than some others and don't come in tinted.  The Cee Bailey units are reportedly very scratch resistant, come in tints, but don't do much as far as backprssure/turbulence control.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 02:38:09 pm »
Don, I have a CS Lg. that I got off on another member. I'm 6'1" w/34 inseam. It's quiet when most of the way up, but I start feeling pack pressure at speeds above 70 mph. Not sure how the XL would do as far as back pressure. Anyway, it's off of the bike now and I've got a V-Stream on the bike now. So far I like the V-Stream better.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 07:10:25 pm »
I've read that the V-Streams tend to flex too much at speed.  What's your experience?

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 07:22:51 pm »
I've read that the V-Streams tend to flex too much at speed.  What's your experience?


The V stream does not flex at all. The shield is pretty thick. Now that doesn't mean that it doesn't move a little on the brackets at times. But every shield I tried has done that. The bigger the shield, the more pronounced it is. The V stream was my choice for the cold and long trips. But my being vertically challenged, I didn't really like it in the full down position becuase it was a taller shield. So it was high when down.
    All shields will suffer from one or the other. If it's real good at full up protection, then it's suffers at full down. So also the opposite can be said. When it's good at full down air flow, then it really isn't great at full up weather protection. So I used a smaller shield in the warmer months close to home. My summer shield was a CalSci.

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 07:35:41 pm »
Mama kawi advises to not move the shield while in motion. I know that's hard to do, but if you move it once, your bound to move it many times. In time it will create a loose track, which will sooner or later give you shield enough room to rattle as mine does. Its pretty annoying. This is not a loose bolt, it is a loose track, where the grove is wider than what's running through the groove, so it can shake a bit.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 12:07:19 am »
I've read that the V-Streams tend to flex too much at speed.  What's your experience?

IMHO the V Stream and the CS Lg. moved around about the same. It doesn't bother me, but that doesn't mean that it will not bother you.

I'm not sure, as I haven't tried any shields that are larger, but I'd suspect that the larger the shield, the more it will move while at speed.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 01:23:51 am »
I've got a V-Stream on my Connie now, and it definitely moves around quite a bit.  I was surprised by it at first, but I don't notice much anymore.  I've got a CalSci Large on order and will be interested to see how it compares.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 04:52:03 pm »
Astros50:  you went with the XL - what's your height?  The Cal Sci fitting chart is confusing - for a given rider height, the longer the inseam, the shorter the shield.  I'm 6'2" with a 35" inseam.  Thinking of going with XL height, but unsure.
I've also read all the posts on aftermarket shields, but I still haven't been able to pull the trigger on a purchase.  Sounds like the CalSci is the best as far as cutting down on turbulence, but they scratch easier than some others and don't come in tinted.  The Cee Bailey units are reportedly very scratch resistant, come in tints, but don't do much as far as backprssure/turbulence control.
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Hey Don,

I'm 5'10" -5'11". I have a 32" inseam and I followed the chart (I think) the first time. Initially I ordered the Large. It was better than the stock, but the wind coming over the shield hit the top 1/3 of my helmet. I sent that one back in exchange for the XL.

It's hard for me to say if the XL would work for you. If you're anywhere near the southwestern tip of Indiana, I'd be willing to meet up with you to give mine a try. Other than that, I'd say give Mark @ CalSci a call. I don't kno if he'd have any other recommendation for you other than to try one out. They seem extremely customer friendly. I'd ask him if you could try one and get a full refund (less S&H) if it doesn't work for you. I bet he will do that for you.

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 07:21:18 pm »
No need to be sorry, you're being a great help.  All this input is great, it's just an elusive target.  Lots of variables here, and no two riders are exactly alike, so it's very difficult to make a choice.  Two things for sure:  the stock shield must go, and  I'm 100% with Bob and others on the two shield theory.  But I'd like to at least get the cool weather choice correct without going through multiple attempts!  I had pretty much written off the Vstream, but now I'm considering giving them a shot.  The alleged better optics and toughness of their product does factor into the decision somewhat.  Based on the dimensions they show on their website, it's roughly 2" taller than stock (2011).  With my stock shield at the full up position, I only need to slouch a tad to hit the sweet spot.  That 2" might be all it takes, especially if the turbulence is reduced. 
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 11:13:26 pm »
i have one on my 08 still not sure i like it ,, if it was only 2 or 3 more inches taller i would be happy , one other problem i have is when its all the way up my hands get no protection from the wind ,  so i need one 2" taller and wider << just looked at the site , i want a Wide X-Large   -     wish i could sell my Large one its in good shape , PS i move mine up and down all the time , getting on the freeway i move it up , going into some turns in the hills it goes down , i move it up and down over 80mph no problem
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 05:27:03 pm »
astros50
Sounds like I'm the same height as you, and looking to replace my 2011 shield.  Question...is the extra large so high that you are looking through it at the top setting?  I'm looking for one that may be 2 inches higher than the stocker, to reduce buffeting, but don't want to be looking through it.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 05:40:12 pm »
My Calsi large is around 4 years old and am wondering about the XL. Mine just moves slightly but It look like the XL would put more pressure on the brackets.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 02:54:26 am »
Just pulled the trigger on a CalSci XL Wide windshield for my Connie.
Will post my own impressions once I get it delivered/take a ride with it on.

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 11:39:00 am »
I got the Large and its perfect. Down I get a nice blast which is fantastic on really hot days. Up I'm in a bubble and its super quiet and I can really listen to my XM radio then.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 12:00:33 pm »
Just a follow-up.  I did a two-day, 650 mile trip to East TN and Western NC a few weeks back and the CalSci Large did a good job.  It provided a nice quiet ride when full up and an adequate flow of air down.  Overall I'd recommend it over the VStream that I tried.

One thing I noticed that seemed a little different.  If the shield's not fully up, it might as well be fully down as far as how the wind feels.  I can't feel any difference at all in the flow as the shield is moving up until it hits the top of the range.  Then it's like someone closed a door and everything gets very quiet all of a sudden.  Seems different from the other shields I've tried.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 04:45:56 am »
Got my Cal Sci XL Wide last saturday, installed it sunday night, but had not had a chance to ride, until today.
Here's my experience:

1. Great customer service: Seems there was some sort of mix up with my shipping address, got a call the morning after my order was placed, cleared everything up and the screen was on its way that same morning;

2. Fast shipping: My package arrived at my post office (I have no home/business address in the US), in two days flat;

3. The windshield itself is cristal-clear, and the finish on the edges is top notch (I had read in previous posts in this forum, some observation comparing the Cee Bailey's finish to the CalSci, with the CB being described as superior), I have no basis for comparison other than the stock windscreen, and I can say the finish on my CalSci is darn near perfect;

4. Installation was a breeze, a 5 minute deal, even for an über-clutz like me (remember I'm the guy that put gear oil in the engine once);

5. The first ride:

All I can say is WOW; had I known a larger, better quality, aerodinamically engineered windshield would have made such a difference in my ride experience, I would have done the switch long ago.

I got the XL Wide, mind you, even though the site's sizing chart guidelines pointed to a Large for my height/inseam (5'11"/30.5 inseam). Any doubts I had regarding the size, were gone within the first 2 miles of this afternoon's ride.

Took my bike across the border, and immediatelly headed east on Hwy 94 towards Campo, CA for a nice, leisurely paced 60 mile ride.

All the way down, I got a nice breeze on my face and shoulders, but in no way similar to what I got with the stock screen, much better airflow in my opinion. Guess that has to do with e screen's "cut", but it somehow felt superior to what I used to get with the stocker.

All the way up, it feels like you're inside a bubble, I heard my engine in a way that I had not heard before. I can only imagine that a conversation with a passenger would be a delight, but I'll have to wait to corroborate that later. I could ride with my faceshield up, no problem. In fact, a couple of times I plain forgot to lower it. It's that good.

I found that the best position for me was 2/3 up, where I got some breeze over my helmet, But did not have to look rough the windseld, which right now is an awkward experience for me, since I've never ridden with a windshield I had to look through before. The optics are fine, don't get me wrong, the view is undistorted, however for the time being, I feel more comfortable looking just over the windshield, that and the fact that I somehow "need" at least some wind noise, since for me it's a part of the whole riding experience.

In summary: this has got to be thee best farkle I've purchased so far. The XL Wide provided me with exactly the kind of ride experience I was going for. Couldn't be happier. In fact, I was seriously considering replacing my Nolan N-103 because it is noisier than my old Shoei RF1000, but now, I feel it could be good for another couple of seasons, the helmet's shortcomings re. wind noise, are simply a non-issue now. The CalSci reduced wind noise by about 70%, and "improved" whatever noise is still present, to the point where it's become more of a peaceful "swoosh" rather than actual annoying noise.

My $.02

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 12:06:07 pm »
I put a V Stream on my 2011 this week.  Run it all the way up, then down an inch or so, so I'm still looking over it, not through it, and is much better than the stock shield, especially at highway speeds.  I went with the V because of the strength, scratch resistance, etc.  It does move around at speed of course, but I imagine all shields will.  I'm 5'10" with 32" inseam and happy with the purchase. :beerchug:

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 12:33:41 pm »
I have two cal sci windshields but I was really disappointed in their customer service.  I placed my order and called them later the same day, explaining that I was going on a trip and just wanted to know when it would ship.  The guy didn't look anything up, just said, "We have already shipped every order we had today."  Terrific.... that will get to me no problem.

A couple days go by, nothing.  I call back.  I explain that I had called the day I placed the order and was assured it was out the door, could I please get the tracking info?  My order didn't ship.  Still hasn't shipped.  They guy actually said to me, "We F###ED up."  I'm not offended by cursing, but as the manager of an international customer service call center, I don't find it to be good customer service.  LOL  If they were to overnight it, I'd get it in time for my trip.  Will they do that?  No.

So I wasn't impressed on that level.  The product is fantastic.

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2012, 03:41:29 am »
Mama kawi advises to not move the shield while in motion. I know that's hard to do, but if you move it once, your bound to move it many times. In time it will create a loose track, which will sooner or later give you shield enough room to rattle as mine does. Its pretty annoying. This is not a loose bolt, it is a loose track, where the grove is wider than what's running through the groove, so it can shake a bit.

I read this the other night and I thought about it.  I have looked thru the owner's manual twice now and I can not find any mention of not adjusting the windshield while on the move.  Where does it say not to move the windshield while in motion?

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2012, 01:31:52 pm »
I read this the other night and I thought about it.  I have looked thru the owner's manual twice now and I can not find any mention of not adjusting the windshield while on the move.  Where does it say not to move the windshield while in motion?

Its on a sticker on the shield.
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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2012, 12:57:53 am »
I read this the other night and I thought about it.  I have looked thru the owner's manual twice now and I can not find any mention of not adjusting the windshield while on the move.  Where does it say not to move the windshield while in motion?

Its on a sticker on the shield.

My used 08 did not come with that one. Useful to know. 24k miles running it up and down. Gotta stop that eh?

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Re: Get Your Cal Sci Windscreen
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2012, 01:17:19 am »
I've read that the V-Streams tend to flex too much at speed.  What's your experience?

Mine doesn't seem to flex much,  Slightly more then the stocker but overall not even noticeable..
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