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Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« on: August 11, 2011, 02:09:58 pm »
Just finished mounting my Givi rack to the Connie for the E55 that I had on the Sprint for those week-long trips.  If anyone is thinking about mounting the Givi rack to their Connie feel free to ask for some pointers on installing it.  Wish I'd documented the process via pictures.  The instructions are the most worthless piece of garbage I've ever seen in my life (worse than the Connie manual with all the translation mistakes).  You get 4 pictures to figure out how to install it, but they don't tell you that you need to disassemble the entire rear of the bike (not just 2 pieces like the picture shows) and bore out a few holes on the rear rack to make the new bolts fit.  If you try and follow the directions, be aware that you WILL end up putting everything on just to realize you need to disassemble 3/4 of what you just did to install/tighten something that the instructions forgot to mention. 

The rack JUST fits on....super tight fit to the mounting holes on the standard rack.  But also feels extremely sturdy compared to the stock rack, so carrying gear + passenger shouldn't be an issue.  I feel more confident that the SO can actually lean back on the Givi now during a ride and not run the risk of the rack and her falling off the rear of the bike.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 02:13:02 pm »
I'm glad I bought my C14 with the GIVI rack already installed.   ;D
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 02:26:57 pm »
orrrr you could just buy one of phils racks and not worry about it! :beerchug:
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 02:53:36 pm »
Saw the Phil's rack and wasn't really impressed in regards to my intended purposes.  On my Sprint I had mounted the Givi adapter place to the stock rack and man, did that think bounce around.  So using just a Phil's rack would most likely led to a similar situation.  My Givi is now pretty much installed on the frame of the bike which gives me much more confidence.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 03:36:21 pm »
Saw the Phil's rack and wasn't really impressed in regards to my intended purposes.  On my Sprint I had mounted the Givi adapter place to the stock rack and man, did that think bounce around.  So using just a Phil's rack would most likely led to a similar situation.  My Givi is now pretty much installed on the frame of the bike which gives me much more confidence.


Phil's rack includes the Givi stud mounting points, so you don't need to use any of the Givi hardware or the adapter plate. I have had it on my bike for a couple years now, and it is rock solid.





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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 04:15:08 pm »
What Fred said...works like a dream.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 04:21:44 pm »
Anyone have pics of a Phil's Rack on a C10?  I want a rear rack, just not sure which one i want.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2011, 07:46:06 pm »
Phil's rack was designed as a direct replacement for the OEM C14 rack. I doubt anyone has tried to mount it on a C10.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2011, 08:17:01 pm »
Ah, ok. thanks. 

I was thinking of a different rack.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2011, 08:22:27 pm »
GIVI mounted the rack/case free for me.  Its the most solid rack i've ever seen, I've hauled firewood in the E55 deluxe case. Next time i have something so sarcastically heavy in it I'll take pics.

I wasn't familiar with Phil at the time or I'd have given him my rack business and only bought the trunk 
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 07:53:25 am »
ditto on the sturdiness...that is now probably the strongest part of the bike!
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 09:01:59 pm »
Yea to say it sux because the install was challenging.....   I agree, sturdiest part of my bike!
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 11:10:45 pm »
I start the E55/Givi rack install tonight.  I started on Wed. thinking it would take maybe an hour but after spending about that amount of time just to orient myself to the pics and parts I decided to wait until the weekend.
That said, I worte Givi and expressed the concern many people, myself included have over the piss poor instructions.  I mean, who feels comfortable about mounting a $300+ bag and valuables when the first pic in the instructions is wrong (about flipping the existing mount upside down).
Anyway, to my surprise I get an email the next day from Givi US mentioning the many complaints they have had on the instructions and that despite their requests to their parent company in Italy they have not had any luck.  The guy goes on to mention he was the first to install the prototype and that yest it took quite a while but after doing this many times now he has it down to a little over an hour........Great, that means I am looking at 3 or so.

Anyway, if someone who has done this has some helpful tips I am all ears as I start in~30 minutes.  I May try documenting it with pics but my gut tells me I'll be lucky to make it through without many revisions.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 12:11:07 am »
I'm starting to feel like a broken record. These instructions worked fine for me, except the beginning list mentions
the # 12 bolts needing 12mm nuts and washers. IIRC it's supposed to be 10mm nuts and washers.
It's not super easy but it isn't all that bad either.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 01:24:27 am »
Its not that its terrible...I am about 2/3 of the way through it after about an hour or so.
For me it's the frustration of having to decipher pics, wondering if you are missing something.  Its not a comfortable feeling for me to have shelled out what I did and wonder if it might come bouncing off because I misinterpreted a pic.
That said, I am having a devil of a time with the front RH side bolt that holds the support bracket....I just cant seem to get aenough clearance around the top to grab hold of the bolt....that and I am doing my best contorsionist act to drop in those two bolts on the back below the light but they are now in.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2011, 02:51:47 am »
OK, start at 9pm and finsih at 11:15.   A good portion of that time it felt like I was walking from the basement to the garage with a special tool I needed to access tight spots that wasnt upstairs and I replaced the battery while I was out there as well.

Not too bad.  My only hesitation is I couldnt get the torque wrench on many of the bolts however I used blue loctite and the tightest bolt spec was something like 23nm or 17 ft lbs of torque and I am pretty darn sure I surpassed that.
When it came time to pull it all together I noticed I had to tweak the 2 back support bars to align the bolts on the Givi top rack.  I dont think thats out of the ordinary but they came together with just a bit of muscle.

Lesson learned:
Yes, the 4 big bolts that go on up top and replace the existing bolts are too big to clear the handles.  If I had to do it over again I'd go with the bolts listed in the supplemental instructions floating around.  3 of my 4 cleared however the front RH side one would not so I shaved the head on the bolt just a little with a dremel.  Once you get it in there ~1/4" you can then access it with a box wrench
Dropping in those two back bolts can be a PITA but luckily the Kawi tupperware is perfectly suited for those instances and it just drops down and slides forward where you can retieve it.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2011, 11:36:24 am »
OK, one final question I Hope someone can help me with.
The only clarification I could use help on is the use of the spacer on the support brackets (part #1).  These are the brackets that secure at 3-points on each side of the frame.  Two below the handles using the replacement bolts and at the back of the bike in the holes that I had to drill out and make slightly bigger.



OK, one final question I hope someone can help me with..........

My question is around the use of those two spacers on the back-end.  I dropped the bolt through the hole with a washer under it.  I then applied the foam pad to the bracket and put the spacer in between the bracket and the bike plastic, applying the nut to the bolt underneath the bike support.  Is this correct or does the spacer go on underneath the bracket and allow the foam pad to directly contact the frame of the bike? 

Any feedback would be appreciated as I am comfortable with the rest of the install.



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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2011, 09:07:26 pm »
Well, if you take a second to think about it logically, the purpose of a spacer is to provide extra space between one piece and another piece.  If you mount the spacer UNDER then you defeat the entire purpose of the spacer.  Mounting it like you did (above the foam washer piece) is the proper installation.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2011, 11:07:59 pm »
Thanks....I approached it with that logic but it also struck me as odd they put foam on there when they really dont make contact so I just wanted to make sure...
thanks for confirming.
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2011, 05:27:55 pm »
it took me all of an hour and a half from start to finish,  yes the instructions were pretty much worthless, but I managed to figure it out.

I too considered Phil's rack as I have seen several and they are VERY nice pieces of art,  but ultimately I decided to go with the GIVI mount because I have a tendency to overload my E460 and felt that the additional braces, while ugly would give me better piece of mind...
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2011, 10:21:38 pm »
Took me about 3 hours and yes, the instructions are worthless, but it was worth the aggravation.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2011, 01:13:33 am »
Sooo....needed a bit of help to back the bike up today from the SO (backed UP a hill....I'm not THAT much of a puss)....she wasn't sure what to do, so I told her to grab onto the Givi rack and pull a bit.  She was amazed at how solid that thing was and found it really easy to help me out.

On a side note, with the strength of the rack she enjoys using the E55 as a backrest now when mounted up.  Not a hint of wiggle anywhere on it.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2011, 01:35:49 pm »

I too considered Phil's rack as I have seen several and they are VERY nice pieces of art,  but ultimately I decided to go with the GIVI mount because I have a tendency to overload my E460 and felt that the additional braces, while ugly would give me better piece of mind...

BRACES give you more piece of mind than machined billet aluminium?  I'd worry about the Kawasaki parts or the back case busting before I'd worry about the load doing bad things to Phil's rack.

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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2011, 10:44:23 pm »
I have installed the Phils Rack and it is solid.  I overload it all the time and it doesn't move.  Some people use little rubber feet but I ised the long felt sticky back pads and it does'nt bounce at all.

IMHO Phil's Rack is the way to go, strong and good looking, like me.   :rotflmao:
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Re: Givi rack install on Connie completed....Givi sucks
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2011, 11:04:59 pm »
IMHO Phil's Rack is the way to go, strong and good looking, like me.   :rotflmao:

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