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GPS Shelf
« on: February 05, 2013, 12:06:12 pm »

I am waiting on delivery of a Concours 14 and want to mount a Garmin 665 with xm radio antenna from my Honda GL1800. On the 1800 I have a shelf that is sold by a vendor that provides a shelf(called a farkle shelf in GoldWing terms) that is attached between the two vertical arms for the windscreen and braced to the dash. I prefer that mount location over a ball mount on either the brake or clutch because I prefer the gps to be straight ahead rather than to either side. The one item I see on this site that is straight ahead is a shelf mounted between the handlebar mounts but that won't work for me because I always ride with a large tank bag and this mount would place the gps too low to see over the bag.  Anyone know of a shelf that is available for the Concours?

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 12:10:10 pm »
  There has been talk of shelves being made for the Concours14 over the years. But I do not recall any ever coming to light.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2013, 04:06:18 pm »
I have one that I've yet to install, so I can offer no real review of it. It's just a piece of sheet metal with three bent tabs
that mount to the plastic panel under the windshield. It may be strong enough that way, but when I mount it I'll be
considering reinforcing ideas. I read somewhere that someone (that's vague enough eh?) made a gauge sun visor from a piece of plastic
cut from a trash can and I was thinking of doing that as well and perhaps have the shelf rest on that for additional support. It also looks
like it would be dangerous in an accident so I'm going to blunt that edge facing me with something, perhaps some rubber door edge protector.
Like I said, mine isn't mounted yet so I'm not sure about GPS to windshield clearance issues yet, it looks tight. I may need to "engineer" it to
make it serve my purpose.

Here is where I purchased it for $85.00 + $15.00 shipping: http://www.kawasakipolice.com/

In this picture you can see the shelf attachment to the panel.


Here you can see the view from the other side. (click and then click again to enlarge)




Their facebook photos are more revealing than their website so give that a try for more info and perhaps a better angle of the shelf.

I believe cuda has one, perhaps he can provide more info here.

I wasn't able to order through their website so I inquired through email and they said that they preferred me to phone in the order
which I did at the 877-905-1593 number.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 03:06:37 pm »
Contact Tom Finch of Texelent.

http://www.texelent.com/
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2013, 04:52:46 pm »
I thought Larry Buck was working with something for LE, but not positive on that one.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 05:20:08 pm »
I thought Larry Buck was working with something for LE, but not positive on that one.

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Yes, IIRC, Larry was one of the folks I thought was working on one. But I never heard of a final product. Maybe the demand or engineering didn't make it worth while.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 08:25:27 pm »
It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to fab a shelf...I may have to do just that.  It could double as a shade, so as to see the computer display on a sunny day.  Marty, did you have to beef up your fork springs to carry all those lights?  :great:
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2013, 09:56:03 pm »
No offense to anyone but....
Who would buy a beautiful bike like the ZG1400 and clutter it up with all that crap. I get the police but a shelf?
I had all that junk on my ST1300 and it looked like the Beverly Hillbilly's. I swore with this bike I was not going to Farkle Clutter it up.
I bought the Top Block tip overs because they look OEM. I reluctantly mounted my Garmin but I placed it down low, that's fine because I mostly listen to it anyway. I also purchased the OEM Top Box for when I have passenger. No CB Antenna's, No PIAA's, No Sat Radio, No front foot pegs, No Stickers, No Radar, No Deer Whistle.
I will be improving the looks with a tinted windscreen and probably new slip on.
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 01:33:22 am »
Palerider...I hear ya...my farkles are red striped wheels and a shortened stock exhaust. I would do a shelf only to shade and see the instruments better
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 03:54:48 am »
Marty, did you have to beef up your fork springs to carry all those lights?  :great:


No offense to anyone but....
Who would buy a beautiful bike like the ZG1400 and clutter it up with all that crap. I get the police...


 :D oh you guys.  ;D

I have added some LEDs to my C14, perhaps too many, however none of those pictures are of my C14. Those are all Police
bikes, and the pictures came from http://www.kawasakipolice.com/

I want to try the shelf for two reason's, 1) I want the GPS centered and higher but not blocking the gauges. Once I start making inputs to the GPS
on the touch screen I become way to distracted from what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm hoping that having it higher will help me keep a better eye on the
road when I start messing with it. 2) It would get more wires off my bars, from the GPS, and hopefully I can move some of those LED light switches up to
the shelf as well. If it turns out that the shelf doesn't work for me then I guess I'll move the GPS to the left bar control area.

It seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to fab a shelf...I may have to do just that. 
I agree, I considered make my own, but my list of crap to do is way too long now, so I bit the bullet and ordered it. I really wasn't in that much of a rush
to get it (it's still in the box after several months). I ordered it thinking that since the Kawasaki Police bike business doesn't sound like it's going so well, maybe
I should get the shelf before they go out of business.  :o

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 10:58:29 am »


I agree with FM's comments on location. I had a gps located on a ball mount on the brake on the right handlebar, on a previous bike, and he's exactly right(for me and him apparently) but it was too distracting when I needed to input directions on the gps and a higher, more central location is better. I then tried just using the gps on a suction mount at the center bottom of the shield and that was ok until the suction released.  The location of the shelf from Kawa Police is the best location. Think I will contact them and order one.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 03:35:32 pm »
I finally got around to mounting my GPS dash shelf. I have yet to give it any significant test (road trip) but I think
it's going to work for me. I have my GPS cantilevered up and out quite a bit so I needed to add front support to
the shelf to cut down on bounce. With a six inch Ram extension it is still a little flexible, but since my helmeted head
flexes more on the bumps than the GPS does, it should be fine. Making the shelf more rigid means it would be less
safe in a frontal crash, so I tried to blunt the edges as best I could. Still some work needed to make it's appearance
a little better but I'll see what I can do with it over the summer.  It was nice to get those GPS wire off of my bars.




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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2013, 02:04:04 pm »
This product has definitely been on my radar. It's now on the front burner.

I had the opportunity to work around a C-14 last weekend.  My now 3+ year old ideas for a C-14 GPS shelf/mount were correct. I will get some semi-final measurements tonight and I have another C-14 coming into the shop on Monday, which will give me another chance to trial fit the main components. Unlike the Kawi police part, I don't anticipate any drilling of holes will be necessary. Also, there will be no obstruction of the instruments. 
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2013, 11:03:12 pm »
This product has definitely been on my radar. It's now on the front burner.

I had the opportunity to work around a C-14 last weekend.  My now 3+ year old ideas for a C-14 GPS shelf/mount were correct. I will get some semi-final measurements tonight and I have another C-14 coming into the shop on Monday, which will give me another chance to trial fit the main components. Unlike the Kawi police part, I don't anticipate any drilling of holes will be necessary. Also, there will be no obstruction of the instruments.


I, for one of many I suspect, look forward to seeing your ideas in actual form.

 I have now road tested mine on a trip and I'm very pleased with the new higher GPS location
and the sturdiness of the shelf. It sits up high and is still behind the CalSci medium windshield at the lowest setting.
Am I happy with it's looks? ..not so much.  ???
It's OK from the rider's view, but the side view and through the windshield view are not great. I think
I'll be painting the inside of my shield black to take care of one problem. I'm not sure about what to do
on the side view. Perhaps new rubber trim with just a bit a lot more care in the cutting would help.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 11:54:28 pm »

I went ahead and ordered a shelf from Kawasaki Police and finally installed it last week. I am really happy with it. No pictures to post but the appearance is the same as fartymarty's but I used a much shorter arm. I may have to rethink that but I preferred it closer to the windshield. It may look cluttered to some but it's fine by me and very usable. At least I don't have to look to either side to see the gps and can see it and look straight ahead. I may add the bracing that fartymarty added because it does have a tendency to vibrate just the slightest. Very happy with the result.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2013, 02:26:47 pm »
Martins install looks good, but I just want to voice my concern about the side support straps on his shelf. Those two mounting points are not really designed to take any kind of stress. Overtightening the screws even the tiniest bit will expand the well nuts enough to shatter the plastic tabs the well nut is in. Those two screws should only be tightened just enough to hold the inner panel - and I mean dainty, 5 year old girl without any tools finger tight. DAMHIK,IJKD

Also, I'm thinking that vibration may possibly lead to failure of the plastic tabs.

The police version with the three straps on the windshield actuator cover looks to be a better install as you could use proper hardware and not have to worry about stress crack failures of body panel mounting points.

Just a reminder that overtightening a screw in a well nut with a rubber body can stress the surrounding plastic to failure.
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2013, 01:53:29 am »
..... but I just want to voice my concern about the side support straps on his shelf. Those two mounting points are not really designed to take any kind of stress. Overtightening the screws even the tiniest bit will expand the well nuts enough to shatter the plastic tabs the well nut is in.
Also, I'm thinking that vibration may possibly lead to failure of the plastic tabs.

The police version with the three straps on the windshield actuator cover looks to be a better install as you could use proper hardware and not have to worry about stress crack failures of body panel mounting points.

Just a reminder that overtightening a screw in a well nut with a rubber body can stress the surrounding plastic to failure.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it.

For the record I have the police version with the three straps and it's mounted on the windshield actuator
cover with the supplied well nuts. The lateral straps are just to make it more rigid and less bouncy. However I do
have them slightly considerably tighter than you specified (no 5 year old around at the time). I used those
mounting points for the straps as I had seen the various air shields mounted there and hadn't heard of any problems.

Good points that I'll look into. Thanks JP. :c017:

edit: I looked at some of my old pictures of the well nut area of which you speak
an I agree with you JP. I think I'm going to reinforce that well nut with a strap from one the mirror mount bolts. 
Thanks again.
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2013, 02:17:19 pm »
I used those mounting points for the straps as I had seen the various air shields mounted there and hadn't heard of any problems.

I first discovered the cracking when I added the Baker Wind Wings. First time I tightend one down enough to keep it from moving under its on weight I heard "crack."  Arrghh....  Since then, even with them just tight enough, vibration has lead to more cracking. The rest of the damage happened when the upper fairing bracket cracked. That's the aluminum bar that the mirrors, and basically everything else, bolt to. Mine failed because of voids in the casting right where the cross bar turns to meet the mirror mount plate.

BTW, when the the wind wings first came out, a lot of folks were reporting cracking problems.
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2013, 06:18:27 pm »
I added the police shelf on mine and then installed my zumo (550), which I mounted with a short ram mount/arm.  I have been riding with it ever since and it works great.  I highly recommend it as an option for people who want their GPS in the their line of sight.  I use mine as my speedometer as well, so I like the placement of it. 

I mounted mine just left of center so that I have room for one or two more items should I get the urge, though I am not sure what else I would want up there. 

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2015, 01:45:29 am »
Does anyone have current links for the web site that sells the dash.
The ones provided go directly to Kawasaki's  web site.
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2016, 12:56:29 am »
I have being contacting Steve and almost ready to order my shelf and the auxiliary light (over the mirrors) mounts.
I would like to know how the drilling and mounting of the shelf looks like. Is the shelf mounted on the plastic cover? Any cracks with time? Any tricks to get a better mount?
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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2016, 11:44:13 am »

I will admit to being reluctant to drill into the upper dash cover under the windshield when I installed my shelf, but I went ahead. I did go ahead and when installing didn't think the installation looked that secure but the forces exerted on the thin plastic are all lateral and not vertical on the plastic and the installation is very secure and looks fine with the use of the well nuts supplied. I would like to have added some support to the shelf as FartyMarty did but didn't like the arms on the front or the connection point since I had already replaced one mirror mount as a result of overtighetning the well nuts on an unrelated use of those mounting points. As a result I have not added any support to the front of the shelf but may take another look at that issue again if it stays too cold to ride here. If I bought a new Kaw I'd either keep the shelf off my bike or have to buy another shelf because this in my opinion is where the GPS belongs. Really handy and not distracting look at the GPS in that location.

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Re: GPS Shelf
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2016, 03:26:39 pm »
I put mine here on the bars using RAM mounts. I want to be able to keep the forward view uncluttered. Not a fan of the large shelf, but to each their own.

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