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Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« on: November 22, 2015, 11:55:19 pm »
Am reading multiple posts and need some input.  I'm looking for a heated one piece suit that fits over daily clothes and would be easy to slip over boots.  Need easy on easy off.  Don't want to pay a 1,000.00 but would pay a few hundred dollars. 

They say an insulated motorcycle suit doesn't cut it, so also been researching snow mobile suits.  If you're riding a sleigh for hours outside and stay warm, I would imagine the same would work for a bike.

Does anyone have input, suggestions, thoughts?  Any would be appreciated.

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 01:14:11 am »
Woody,

I have been wearing the FirstGear Thermo 1-piece suit for the past 6 winters here in Iowa. The suit does not have any armor so I usually wear one of my textile jackets underneath it. As far as temperature range I normally wear it from 0 to 45 degrees. Anything warmer than 45 and it becomes too hot. It is also waterproof and has full length zippers so it is easy to get on over boots.  I also use it whenever I run my snowblower.


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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 04:16:52 pm »
I wear firstgear Kilimanjaro jacket with a fleece pullover,rode home last night from work it was 23 degs was warm,it does a great job.

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 05:30:40 pm »
I used to use the one piece Firstgear suit when I was riding unfaired motorcycles back in the day. Yeah... it works, but really inconvenient because of is bulk (not to mention the jokes from your cow orkers). Plus if you have problems with off the rack sizing like I do... can't recommend. I sometimes use it riding my snowmobile in the Sierras, but normally I just wear my Firstgear Hypertex Overpants and Kilimanjaro jacket with liner. If it's really cold, I'll swap the liner for a heated Gerbings jacket liner.

One piece: bulky when storing, potential fit issues, generally can't add heated gear underneath if needed, low cost >$200.

Two piece: bulky when storing, fit issues can be addressed by separate pieces, heated gear can be added easily, more versatile as pieces can be worn individually, medium cost ~$300-$600.

Firstgear, Joe Rocket, Rev'It, Tourmaster.... lots of choices. Start here with the Firstgear stuff and then check the other manufacturers...

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 07:41:26 pm »
Am reading multiple posts and need some input.  I'm looking for a heated one piece suit that fits over daily clothes and would be easy to slip over boots.  Need easy on easy off.  Don't want to pay a 1,000.00 but would pay a few hundred dollars. 

They say an insulated motorcycle suit doesn't cut it, so also been researching snow mobile suits.  If you're riding a sleigh for hours outside and stay warm, I would imagine the same would work for a bike.

Does anyone have input, suggestions, thoughts?  Any would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Wood

as I really hate looking like the Michellin Man, I've been in an Aerostich 2 piece suit for 13 years...  for temps below 40* all the way to 0* I wear a Gerbing jacket against my first layer of clothing, mine is looser now that I have lost weight, but you can make it "hug you" simply putting on a teeshirt over it to snug it up.
if its really cold, and I'm doing a long ride, like 2 hours, I'll add in a pullover fleece on top of the Gerbing combo.
With correctly sized components, its perfectly comfy, easy on and off, even over a business suit, but I roll my suit jacket and place it in my tail bag in a plastic bag, and don it when I remove my gear.

the stich, Gerbing, and light fleece combo has been a winner for me, keeping that core temp up with the electrics is amazing, and you will find it delightfully satisfying, and many times precludes having to heat your hands more than a good pair of weatherproof insulated winter gloves, because when the core temp is maintained, extremities stay warm automatically...

if you are serious about riding year round, sonner or later you will end up in a Stich.. fact of life, so even tho it ain't cheap, its the do it all riding gear that over years of ownership, is actually cheaper to own and rely upon, moreso than any combo of multi use pieces. Add in the Retying, and its perfect.

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2015, 02:38:47 am »
Am reading multiple posts and need some input.  I'm looking for a heated one piece suit that fits over daily clothes and would be easy to slip over boots.  Need easy on easy off.  Don't want to pay a 1,000.00 but would pay a few hundred dollars. 

They say an insulated motorcycle suit doesn't cut it, so also been researching snow mobile suits.  If you're riding a sleigh for hours outside and stay warm, I would imagine the same would work for a bike.

Does anyone have input, suggestions, thoughts?  Any would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Wood

as I really hate looking like the Michellin Man, I've been in an Aerostich 2 piece suit for 13 years...  for temps below 40* all the way to 0* I wear a Gerbing jacket against my first layer of clothing, mine is looser now that I have lost weight, but you can make it "hug you" simply putting on a teeshirt over it to snug it up.
if its really cold, and I'm doing a long ride, like 2 hours, I'll add in a pullover fleece on top of the Gerbing combo.
With correctly sized components, its perfectly comfy, easy on and off, even over a business suit, but I roll my suit jacket and place it in my tail bag in a plastic bag, and don it when I remove my gear.

the stich, Gerbing, and light fleece combo has been a winner for me, keeping that core temp up with the electrics is amazing, and you will find it delightfully satisfying, and many times precludes having to heat your hands more than a good pair of weatherproof insulated winter gloves, because when the core temp is maintained, extremities stay warm automatically...

if you are serious about riding year round, sonner or later you will end up in a Stich.. fact of life, so even tho it ain't cheap, its the do it all riding gear that over years of ownership, is actually cheaper to own and rely upon, moreso than any combo of multi use pieces. Add in the Retying, and its perfect.




Yup...don't let the price put you off for an Aerostich.  It did me for years...now I have one and wonder what the heck I was thinking all those years. :-[  It's been the best riding suit I've owned.  I wasted a bunch of money trying to get what I got with an Aerostich.  Like MOB...Gerbings heated gear with minimal base layer is all I need to ride into the 20s with ease.   Wear your work clothes underneath for ride to work, whip off the Aerostich and yer ready to roll.  I have the R-3 one piece.   And yes, they really are that good. :great: :beerchug:

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2015, 04:36:22 pm »
The difference between a motorcycle and a sno mo is wind protection. I had a new ski doo back in 93 and had a real good sno suit and was never cold. But, I tried wearing it early one spring on a honda 750 for a 1 1/2 hour ride out to a cabin in around freezing temps and froze my nards, couldn't stop shaking for an hour. Luckily it warmed up during the the day so the ride home wasn't as extreme. If I remember I wore my leather jacket under the suit because it would not fit over.
   Another difference is constant speeds in wide open areas. On a sled you seldom go more than 40mph for extended periods in open areas. If on trails you are protected from wind and only can blast it wide open for short periods.....even with a suit if you are blasting across a lake (frozen hopefully ) for any period it gets cold.
   A leather suit may help, and of course a concours has better protection than an old honda. Also, textiles have gotten better. So, around the city any sno mo suit would help, but I think out on the highway in sub temps for long periods, take the cage.
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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2015, 06:23:39 pm »
Well I appreciate all the input. 

The final decision after all input and research:  I ended up buying a FirstGear Thermo One Piece and will be saving my pennies for a future date to get a Aerostitch (Just didn't have the extra change to swing it this time - or able to justify it given other more necessary needs).  I believe for the moment I made the right decision (and hoping I don't have to eat my words).

I did go to work yesterday morning in 28 degrees in just my leather jacket with a turtle neck under my regular shirt with t-shirt and a pair of long john bottoms (hunting long johns) and gloves.  With the heated grips and the heated seat, all was pretty comfortable. Slight bit chilly, but not "cold", so this should be an improvement over that.

So thanks again for all the input, it certainly helped.

Just a side note.....  Just got back from picking up the suit.  Drove an hour away to Hudson Valley Motorcycles as they were able to get in a large and x-large for me to try on so I didn't have to order both and pay to send one back, or get stuck with the wrong size.  While there, I saw two Connies used in their inventory.  Both had similar scratches to mine where it went over because of being top heavy.  These bikes certainly do have a reputation for falls.....

Was a beautiful day for a ride today....

Wood

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2015, 05:25:46 am »
I use my 3 season jacket, and snow boarding pants over my jeans.  I don't know about snowmobile pants/suite, but I can not feel any wind through these, and they are water resistant.  I've ridden in the rain and stayed dry.  I think I paid less than $100 for them.  Plenty of comfort, easy to get on/off over boots too.  Stayed warm on my recent 20 degree ride.
Downside is there is no armor for protection.

I am not a big fan of heated clothing personally.  Everything I read says they heat marginally without the juice.  So the last thing I want is to be out on a long ride on a cold day, and have an electrical failure in the clothing department.  No thanks.

The only experience I actually have with heated clothing is socks.  My wife got me a pair of socks that are driven by 9 volt batteries when I served in Korea.  Bitter winters there believe it or not.  And I must say that although they chewed through 9 volts like candy, while the battery had life, my feet were warm.
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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2015, 03:34:57 pm »
Tourmaster for me.  Heated insoles attach to Velcro chaps which attaches to vest.  All run from one controller.  Just wear my leather Dainese jacket over the vest and a pair of non-motorcycle winter gloves.  Rode to work 10 miles at 37ºF this morning and did not get cold.  Also, a good quality helmet, Shoei, Arai etc. that does not have any wind penetration around the faceshield is key.  You will pay around $500 for my Tourmaster setup but that's a small price for years of comfort. ;)

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2015, 01:11:03 am »
I am not a big fan of heated clothing personally.  Everything I read says they heat marginally without the juice.  So the last thing I want is to be out on a long ride on a cold day, and have an electrical failure in the clothing department.  No thanks.


I've been riding 10 years with the same jacket liner...zero electrical failures....been warm for 10 years without the hassle of all that extra bulky warm gear.    If there were tons of stories about failures, I'd understand your reservations, but they are totally unfounded.  Good stuff does not break down.   Buy cheap crap, you get what you pay for.

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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2015, 02:23:03 am »
I am not a big fan of heated clothing personally.  Everything I read says they heat marginally without the juice.  So the last thing I want is to be out on a long ride on a cold day, and have an electrical failure in the clothing department.  No thanks.

What you've read, Willy, is not true. The failure rate of heated gear is negligible compared to fifteen years ago. Also, even not plugged in, my Gerbings heated jacket liner worn under my Firstgear Kilimanjaro is warmer than the Kilimanjaro liner.

Same goes for my Firstgear heated gloves. They are as warm as my Tourmaster winter gauntlets even when not plugged in.

Old rumors about failures is no reason to dismiss using electric gear.
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Re: Heated clothing or snow mobile suit?
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 02:55:07 am »
I don't have a one piece heated suit, but I'm very happy with Gerbing heated jacket and pants liners, as well as the Garbing heated gloves.   I'm using them with a Rukka Armaxion Goretex Jacket and Armaxion pants.   A word to the wise for those who choose to use heated gear:   you really need to add an auxiliary fuse block, and I went with the PDM60, which is worth its weight in gold.   I've had no problems with blown fuses, as the PDM 60 basically has 6 breaker type circuits which can be regulated via software adjustment (PCs only, however).  The Gerbing gloves I bought also have rechargeable lithium ion batteries you can use, as well as the ability to plug them into the jacket liner.    I get double duty from these gloves, as I use them when I have to run the snowblower and they work great.   The Rukka gear is top of the line in both quality and price (Jacket and pants were $1800, but they're essentially bulletproof with D30 armor in the shoulders, elbows, hips and knees.   Best gear investment I've made to date, and as long as the roads are clear from snow or ice, I can pretty much ride in any cold weather.
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