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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2014, 01:09:31 am »
you guys are expensive
After readign this thread and owning a Scala G9 I went out an bought this


ys know what sold me?

I can pair 2 Hans Free Phone's to this unit.
-iphone
and
-GPS
I like the wheel better than the push button on the scala.
you can share yuour source to another device (like a passenger), ie: share music  OR  share your phone call. 
yes you can have a 3 way phone call... neet
Plus the BIGGEST FEATURE!!


for those that use ear plugs (like me) I get a little skiddish driving in traffic because I cannot her stuff around me or is some one is talking to me while stopped.
I simply press the Ambient Noise button and a microphone on the OUTSIDE of the helmet transmits sounds to your earphones.
all music, intercom and phone calls are stopped when this button is pressed and I can hear my surroundings.
how cool is that!!

my 2000mi road trip starts tomorrow and im stoked to use my new toy!


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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2014, 02:24:26 am »
sorry
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2014, 04:11:46 am »
sweet

Does a lot of cool stuff. I likey.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2014, 04:22:15 pm »
sorry
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I've been using Sena SMH10 for 2 years. Connects easily to my Zumo 660 and my Blackberry (I know, I know... but I'm in Canada!!!  ;) ).  Easy to operate. I replace the helmet attachment to be able to use ear buds. I use Sennheiser ($35 on Ebay). Fantastic sound on the buy, and easy to control.

However, if I was buying now, I would go for the latest technology, ie. Sena S20.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2014, 01:14:58 am »
Since noise is a large part of the problem, and your hearing is already prblematic, I'd look for some way to reduce noise (better helmet, etc).

Quiet Ride muffs make a huge difference, if you're up to it.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2014, 01:29:51 am »
G9x set arrived today.  Read through the owners manual.   WOW.  Will pair with 2-3 other brands.  Will pair with up to 9 other G9 units at a time.   Thoroughly impressed with its features.  Really cool stuff amd well thought out.   Have yet to install and sample slund quality but I expect it to live up to its price.

doesn't have an ambient noise feature,  which would be really cool.  Prioritizes input sources, voice commands on everything.  Built in FM radio, preset features, scans and saves strong signals passing through foriegn lands but does not loose home presets.  Lots more cool stuff.  Cant wait to try it out.

Modular helmet friendly too.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2014, 08:59:37 pm »
uh,
I told you so?
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2014, 01:16:56 am »
G9x set arrived today.  Read through the owners manual.   WOW.  Will pair with 2-3 other brands.  Will pair with up to 9 other G9 units at a time.   Thoroughly impressed with its features.  Really cool stuff amd well thought out.   Have yet to install and sample slund quality but I expect it to live up to its price.

doesn't have an ambient noise feature,  which would be really cool.  Prioritizes input sources, voice commands on everything.  Built in FM radio, preset features, scans and saves strong signals passing through foriegn lands but does not loose home presets.  Lots more cool stuff.  Cant wait to try it out.

Modular helmet friendly too.


Those features are why I bought one for me and the wife. Sound quality is good (doesn't do highs or lows well, but that was ok for me) until you are going over 75... Then the wind noise does make it a bit hard to hear sometimes. If I am just listening to music, I put in earplugs and turn the volume up all the way. I can hear the music just fine. But if I am going to be talking to by buddies, I picked up a pair of http://earfuze.com/index.html. If I was to do this over again, I would find a nice pair of ear buds that have a small profile and get the DIY custom earplug kits off amazon for $10 and make my own. The Fuze do a good job and the buds are ok, but for $50 I expected more.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2014, 07:34:52 pm »
Right there with you John.  Got to use it with the cell phone yesterday.  The sound isn't all I could hope for but much better than I expected.  More than adequate but you won't see them in recording studios.  Mounting a RAM on my bars for my phone and GPS tonight.

being able to talk on my cell phone while cruising the interstate kn a bike was a surreal experience.   Felt pretty weird the first few times.  Felt like I was breaking all sorts of rules. :o

Really cant wait to learn to use all the features of this intercom system.  Tons of capabilities.   I'll be taking the owners manual with me. :D
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2014, 09:24:19 pm »
Just picked up the UCLEAR Boomles HBC200 Force. It paired with my Zumo 660 and Galaxy 4 effortlessly. I was listing to a movie on You Tube and my son called me as I was doing 75. It sounded wonderful. He did not even know I was on the bike. This is the first and only one I have used ,
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2014, 08:13:43 am »
Sound isn't an issue with the sena. I've have phone conversations and no one has any idea I'm on the bike. I do like the simplicity of the smh10- one jog dial and 1 phone button. Next year we'll probably move up to the 20s. I like the idea of the exterior microphone feature.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2014, 05:11:16 pm »
People can hear me clearly hear me clearly on the Scala unit also and phone calls are clear.  My complaint about the sound was directed at music.  No lows, and tinny at volume.  Maybe asking tne impossible from speakers the size of quarters.  May turn to earbuds and see how it works for music listening.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2014, 07:54:15 pm »
A lot of good info here.
I want to confirm some of the info . I never knew Scala G9 could interface with other makers. Other Scala models yes, but not other manufactures. All the reading I have done states no one has ever connected to another manufacturer except for the new Sena 20.
If this is true that is good info.  Maybe it is new firmware.
I have been thinking about the new Sena 20's.
 It is mandatory that I have earplug ports.  Speaker  helmets have never worked for me.
I was just testing my J&M Bluetooth headset  with Zello. Dang that works really well.
Now if I can get others to use Zello it wont matter what make of Bluetooth they use.  We can all chat. Just log onto the Concourse Owners Group on Zello and it works really well.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2014, 12:28:04 am »
DM,
The newer G9X has a headphone jack that you can plug earplug speakers into. You can also buy just the bracket and use with the older G9 setsI have not confirmed the cross brand connecting yet personally though.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2014, 01:13:18 am »
A lot of good info here.
I want to confirm some of the info . I never knew Scala G9 could interface with other makers. Other Scala models yes, but not other manufactures. All the reading I have done states no one has ever connected to another manufacturer except for the new Sena 20.
If this is true that is good info.  Maybe it is new firmware.
I have been thinking about the new Sena 20's.
 It is mandatory that I have earplug ports.  Speaker  helmets have never worked for me.
I was just testing my J&M Bluetooth headset  with Zello. Dang that works really well.
Now if I can get others to use Zello it wont matter what make of Bluetooth they use.  We can all chat. Just log onto the Concourse Owners Group on Zello and it works really well.

Mike, I spoke with the Cardo rep at Barber Raceway (AMA race) after the 2014 national rally. We had a lengthy conversation and he claimed the Q3 and Q9 will connect with other bands of similar vintage. Color me skeptical... ???
 Another interesting point regarding music. When connected to my Zumo 550 GPS the music in my Q3 helmet speakers is horrible. When connected to my Galaxy S4 via blue tooth it sounds fantastic. A2DP capable devices make all the difference.
Off topic....glad to hear you got Zello to work. Doesn't transfer to BT in my car. I will try the Q3. Hope to be on there in the morning going to work Monday.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2014, 12:58:30 am »
Without A2DP you basically have the equivalent of listening to a radio station over a land line telephone connection - neither are designed for music.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2014, 01:04:59 pm »
Without A2DP you basically have the equivalent of listening to an AM radio station over a land line telephone connection during a lightning storm[/i]- neither are designed for music.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2014, 03:49:44 am »
Here's something I've experienced with my G9 powerset over the last year I've owned mine...

When riding Solo, I have to move my boom mic down and almost outside the helmet.
If I don't, and I say something, it will say it's turning "Radio On", or "Music On", or "Call Intercom".
I've found that it's programming is more of a "loop" rather than the smart "artificial intelligence" I thought it's voice recognition protocol really is.

When intercommed with another G9 rider, about every 15 minutes the audio will drop out for a few seconds, then come back on. Annoying... Almost like it refreshes itself.

Proper speaker placement in the helmet makes all the difference in volume, and tone. Close spacing to your ears is crucial for the bass response. Lots of people have not done this correctly, and thought the G9 had low audio. Not true! These things have way more than enough volume, if you get the speakers placed well in line with your ears. Takes some time and effort, but well worth it.

My battery life usually lasts a good 10 hrs. When it starts to tell you "Low Battery", it will still last around another hour before it shuts off. You just have to put up with the interruption every few minutes reminding you of the low battery condition.

I have also paired mine with a friend who has a G4. The range on intercom is less, and it seemed to disconnect us several times, requiring the "A" or "b" button to be pressed to reconnect...annoying.

But the intercoms' range is outstanding, at about 1 mile, line of sight.
It streams music from my Iphone 5S wirelessly great.
The radio works great.
At times, it has trouble calling via bluetooth. Better with my IPhone than it ever was with my Motorola Electrify Android. The G9 hated that phone.

Recently, I added a TomTom Rider gps to the mix. So far, I'm not impressed at all with it.
It will pair and work, but the GPS has no A2DP protocol, nor does it have an MP3 player...so I have to turn off the bluetooth pairing with the GPS and Phone, and pair the Phone and G9 to stream music...losing turn by turn instructions...so it's an either-or deal. Also, even when the bluetooth is turned off in the gps, it will cause the intercom to drop out, and have to be manually reconnected...very annoying.

I'm going to try a 7" tablet instead, next...using an app that will let the gps work without data.

The G9's bluetooth and software is not perfect, and has some bugs. But, considering how I used to be all tethered up to my phone, and had few of the features I now enjoy...it's been worth it.
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2014, 10:37:09 pm »
C14lvr,
Try getting the updated software. It made life a little better for me with my G9's. Now I upgraded to a G9X and all my woes have gone away!   :)

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2014, 01:08:59 pm »
C14lvr,
Try getting the updated software. It made life a little better for me with my G9's. Now I upgraded to a G9X and all my woes have gone away!   :)

Couldn't be happier with the way the new one works.

Hey, Matt...
Most of my issues started AFTER I downloaded their latest update.
My buddy did his the same evening, and he has a few of the same issues mine does.

I've talked to Cardo about it. Not able to resolve the issue so far.
Anyone else experience these things?
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2014, 08:34:56 pm »
When riding Solo, I have to move my boom mic down and almost outside the helmet.
If I don't, and I say something, it will say it's turning "Radio On", or "Music On", or "Call Intercom".

Have you tried turning the VOX off in your settings? That's what me and mama do with our G4's, otherwise when she sings or when I cough or something it thinks we're trying to talk and auto-connects us. I find it much more easy to just turn VOX off and push the button if I want to talk to her and vise-versa...
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2014, 09:56:41 pm »
When riding Solo, I have to move my boom mic down and almost outside the helmet.
If I don't, and I say something, it will say it's turning "Radio On", or "Music On", or "Call Intercom".

Have you tried turning the VOX off in your settings? That's what me and mama do with our G4's, otherwise when she sings or when I cough or something it thinks we're trying to talk and auto-connects us. I find it much more easy to just turn VOX off and push the button if I want to talk to her and vise-versa...
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+1 on turning VOX off. Had to do that with my G9.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2014, 12:43:03 am »
With the UClear we run with the VOX on. Too much of a PITA to reach for a button to talk. The VOX seems really good. Yea, it transmits when she sneezes or coughs, but it's not a big deal.

Since it does noise cancelling, when both mics pickup the same road noise (horn, bike egine, whatever) it immediately cuts it out.

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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2014, 08:17:56 am »
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Re: helmet audio/speakers/intercom
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2014, 01:59:58 am »
Got the G9x base and ran it with the SO on the other comm. I could not hear jack...kept telling her to speak up....Next time we stopped I fished out a pair of headphones and plugged them in... :-\ :truce: Had to turn the volume down to almost nothing and tell her to whisper. I may leave it that way but if I can't handle the volume I may have to back into settings and turn down the master volume as it is REALLLLLY loud.