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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2018, 05:51:42 am »
Installing two in place of one is easy. Keeping the fuse from blowing?? What is the total amp draw of the two horns v the OEM horn? That will determine if you need a relay.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 12:41:31 pm »
No question about it. You will need a relay for the 2 Piaa's/other..
Just finished installing mine.

Lot of tinkering to build a bracket and get the horns to fit in the stock location. "But, do-able".
If Nicole sold just the bracket, it would be well worth buying!!
better yet; If she sells the bracket "and" the harness,,, do it!!!

By the way, I installed the Slim Line Piaa's.  {my bike is lowered and I need all the clearance I can get}
  {"And", because Nicole suggested them}..
https://www.amazon.com/85114-400Hz-500Hz-112db-Sports/dp/B004FXMGLY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1526229519&sr=8-2&keywords=piaa+horn

NOTE: I had the Fiam, Freeway Blasters on my bike previously.
             Almost as loud as the Piaa's, but (with my bike lowered) the fender would smack them when I hit a bump.
                   {$10 and ship if someone wants them}.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2018, 12:54:15 pm »
i don't recall the exact specs, but you need a relay because the draw or load of two horns vs. the OEM (one) is technically more than the wiring and switch can handle.

You are in jeopardy of burning up the switch, wire, or both.

Also, with a higher draw on current, you may not be able to supply both horns with enough power to fully enrgize both horns, and as a result, merely be achieving the same dB output as a single horn would achieve.

zero sum game.  and worse than that, no benefit, and risk of melted components, or worst case - a fire.  :-[

make sense??

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2018, 01:03:38 pm »
Slimeline!!! WHO KNEW!!!!  >:(
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2018, 01:07:07 pm »
Slimeline!!! WHO KNEW!!!!  >:(

The master knew... "Nicole"...

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2018, 02:18:06 pm »
I found that I have a good place to mount the horns, I have frame sliders on this bike and I can use the bracket that they have under the cowling... so the mount is easy... My wiring harness with a relay won't be here until tomorrow  >:(
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2018, 03:52:08 pm »
Where did you order a harness w/relay?

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2018, 04:05:00 pm »
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2018, 04:09:19 pm »
That looks pretty good and the price is outstanding..
Lengths may need adjusting, and the connectors that attach to the stock harness will need changing.

But, very do-able.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2018, 04:11:06 pm »
yeah that was my thought, I solder everything so should be good to go, taking the bike apart tonight or when the harness gets here tomorrow  >:(

That looks pretty good and the price is outstanding..
Lengths may need adjusting, and the connectors that attach to the stock harness will need changing.

But, very do-able.

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2018, 04:18:12 pm »
After you get it done, post here how the harness worked out.

Harbor Freight sells "Marine" grade heat shrink.
Has glue inside that melts and seals the joint.

Works great.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2018, 01:23:32 am »
OK, so the harness doesn't come until tomorrow... but  :)

I remember I had a light harness with relay for a LED light bar for my Polaris, 40amp relay and nicely covered wires. All I had to do was put new ends on the wires and do the routing, all good nice sound, very nice.



Horns were

PIAA 85112 115db 500HZ + 600HZ Sports Horn


I used this as a reference from Fred





Here is where I mounted them



Appreciate the help from this site

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2018, 01:35:21 am »
Hi Rick,
Did the seller change the horns? they don't look like the ones in your photo.
I'm interested, I didn't think horns like these would fit in the OE spot. I took my deceased C10's double horn and installed them on my C14, and they are better than the stock, but not what I want.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2018, 01:45:52 am »
the photo above that shows where the horns are mounted are not mine, they were from another post I used it to show where mine are mounted

Hi Rick,
Did the seller change the horns? they don't look like the ones in your photo.
I'm interested, I didn't think horns like these would fit in the OE spot. I took my deceased C10's double horn and installed them on my C14, and they are better than the stock, but not what I want.

Thanks!

Jorge
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2018, 03:37:23 pm »
Quick update.

The wiring harness I bought on Amazon came today, though I am not using it because I found one I had, it looks like it would have worked great, other than changing out the connectors on some wires.


iJDMTOY (1) 12V Horn Wiring Harness Relay Kit

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XM107FC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&p&sc=1
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2018, 01:42:39 pm »
Slimeline!!! WHO KNEW!!!!  >:(

The master knew... "Nicole"...

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Ted, You are too kind. Thank you  ;)
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2018, 02:23:07 pm »
Dang it... I had to order the slimlines today, Amazon will take my other ones back....  :-[



By the way, I installed the Slim Line Piaa's.  {my bike is lowered and I need all the clearance I can get}
  {"And", because Nicole suggested them}..
https://www.amazon.com/85114-400Hz-500Hz-112db-Sports/dp/B004FXMGLY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1526229519&sr=8-2&keywords=piaa+horn

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2018, 02:24:32 pm »
follow up.

The Slimlines ar 400/500 vs. the full size of 500/600

anyone hear the difference? I like how this 500/600 sounds I can only assume the 400/500 would give me more base  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2018, 04:58:07 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.

Missed the boat once (see what I did there) won't happen again.  I'm in as well...
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2018, 08:53:51 pm »
Ted's horns

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2018, 08:55:14 pm »
Ted's other horn pic

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2018, 09:14:43 pm »
Thanx Ron.
Above is how I mounted my slim line horns.
I think the location is similar to Nicole's.
Location on my is extra critical as the front of the bike was lowered.
Hope it helps.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2018, 02:20:15 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.

Missed the boat once (see what I did there) won't happen again.  I'm in as well...

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2018, 04:23:26 pm »
Thanx Ron.
Above is how I mounted my slim line horns.
I think the location is similar to Nicole's.
Location on my is extra critical as the front of the bike was lowered.
Hope it helps.

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2018, 05:19:22 pm »
Ted's horns




Ted, From this picture, it looks like the horns are pointed forward. If so, aren't you concerned about water entering into the horn assembly?
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