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Offline Staylo

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Horn upgrade
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:14:53 pm »
I purchased this pair of PIAA horns(mostly because it was the same price as a single horn), with the plan to only use one for now. I’m thinking I can just replace the stock horn with one of these units without needing to use a relay. At some point I would like to add the second horn, at which time I know I would need a relay. Am I correct that I can add a single horn without any changes to the wiring?  Thanks!

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 07:15:43 pm »
Stock should be fine for 1.

I added 2 Fiam horns to mine because 2 tones are louder/more distinctive than 1 tone.
I'm disappointed by the Fiam's, and plan to eventually go to the Piaa's.

I mention it because I installed the 2 exactly where the stock single was.
  I'm 90% sure the Piaa's will fit too.
 Just takes a little deep thought and tinkering.   :beerchug:

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 07:34:46 pm »
I purchased this pair of PIAA horns(mostly because it was the same price as a single horn), with the plan to only use one for now. I’m thinking I can just replace the stock horn with one of these units without needing to use a relay. At some point I would like to add the second horn, at which time I know I would need a relay. Am I correct that I can add a single horn without any changes to the wiring?  Thanks!

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you are correct, that is my setup right now; I'm not a big fan of it as it is, because it sounds like a duck with a cold, so I bought a Stebel Airhorn, but what a PITA to install! I may just install the second PIAA and call it a day :(
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 09:22:32 pm »
The Stebel was a bit too much for me in more than a few ways - mostly in SPACE and Electrical Consumption, so I did the dual Fiamm, with a little modification to the mounting location and wiring.

Using two aftermarket horns, you definitely should install a relay dedicated to the dual setup.
One horn would probably be ok on the OEM setup.

Agreed with Connie Rider, i'd favor the PIAA's for a bit more "distinctive" sound than the Fiamm's.  To me, while cheaper, the Fiamms sound like they belong on a chevy malibu.  By all accounts - a HUGE improvement over stock, but leaves something to be desired in the "what my japanese motorcycle horn SHOULD sound like" department.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 09:29:14 pm »
Thanks everyone.  I chose the 500/600Hz pairing because I liked that sound combo the best.  I agree, some of the other combos or brands sounding like a Chevy horn.  The 500/600 have a very 'european' sound that seems more fitting for a motorcycle.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 04:53:05 pm »
Its too bad that someone still doesnt make her horn kit complete with horns, mounting bracket and wiring harness.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 05:51:14 pm »
Actually, I didn't know you still offered them??
Can you give details, and how many $$ ?

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 08:50:51 pm »
Its too bad that someone still doesnt make her horn kit complete with horns, mounting bracket and wiring harness.
I know.  I wanted one but they were all gone. It's also why I decided on the PIAA kit instead of others.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2018, 09:56:32 pm »
Its too bad that someone still doesnt make her horn kit complete with horns, mounting bracket and wiring harness.
Why doesn’t she or does she,
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 11:14:25 am »
I agree with the previous post. I tried to contact her to purchase the kit she had developed but did not receive a reply. Probably because she was exhausted from all the contacts and did not intend to continue producing the kits. I'd still buy one if available. You would think that one of the several vendors that post on this site would take up the project. I can tell you from experience that a two horn application will not work without a relay. There simply isn't enough wattage to make the two horns work and sound proper.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 06:22:43 pm »
Its too bad that someone still doesnt make her horn kit complete with horns, mounting bracket and wiring harness.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 06:27:23 pm »
I missed the train to to getting Nicole's horn kit as well. But I'm curious if she can give the details to someone like Murph and make this available to everyone. Thoughts?
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2018, 01:55:16 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2018, 04:26:30 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.
I have the horns now, but I’d be interested in a bracket and loom.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2018, 05:24:24 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.
I have the horns now, but I’d be interested in a bracket and loom.

I have the Stebel and agree that's its a PIAA to install.  I separated the plastic horn unit from the air compressor extended it the original horn location with a piece of hose.  I rode in heavy rain one time, and the horn unit filled with water and it sounded like it had a chest cold and never recovered.  So I bought another one just for the horn piece and mounted it so it had less chance of catching water.

All that said, Nicole, if you are making your honkers again, I would buy them.  :beerchug:
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2018, 09:43:33 am »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.
I have the horns now, but I’d be interested in a bracket and loom.

Ditto here.  If you decide to sell the bracket/loom parts separately, I'm also interested.  (Or the bracket, only?)
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2018, 01:26:00 pm »
Making my own wiring/relay harness was tedious.  I can't imagine doing a whole slew of them.  :truce:

So worth it in the end though.

now I need some PIAA horns.  :beerchug:
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2018, 06:24:20 pm »
Count me in.  I'd buy one.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2018, 12:57:37 am »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.

Count me in, if you're beginning to tally numbers on who's interested. Thx
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2018, 04:28:19 pm »
If there was enough interest I would entertain the thought of producing some kits again. I must say that it is a tedious process making the wiring loom. I've spent countless hours sitting at the table, cutting, stripping, and soldering wires.

Count me in too. I have been waiting for you to make them available again since I first heard of them in this forum

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2018, 12:52:25 pm »
Stalow or anyone else who is running the PIAA. Which Freq horn did you put on the bike? the 500 or the 600?
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2018, 01:31:27 pm »
Jeremy, to get optimum sound levels you need 2 horns with 2 different frequencies.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2018, 03:41:36 pm »
Stalow or anyone else who is running the PIAA. Which Freq horn did you put on the bike? the 500 or the 600?
I agree with Connie_rider that two is optimal, but until I can get a harness and bracket together the one louder horn is better than the stock horn. I’m thinking of running the 600 because it sounds closer to my ear to stock. Not very scientific.  ;)
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2018, 12:54:19 am »
So...

I also purchased these horns (got them today)

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My question is why do I need a relay? The documents that came with the horns showed how to install both horns in a situation that had 1 horn?


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