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Horn upgrade
« on: May 07, 2012, 06:27:25 pm »
On nearly every bike I've had (Goldwing didn't need it) I've upgraded the weak stock honker with some thing that has a bit more bark.
I did a quick forum search, but didn't find any promising results.
Has anyone done an upgrade to an after-market horn and is there a preference among those that have? I've always moved to a single - and sometimes double Fiams with about 116db each.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 06:43:42 pm »
There are several options. Personally, I like the FIAM Freeway blaster, dual hi and low tone set up, but it takes more space to mount them. The other option alot of folks do is the air driven Stebel. There is also a dual disc Stebel and FIAM set available as well if you want disc horns. Check with murphs kits, I think he has several different ones.

I bought a set of used GoldWing horns and put them on mine simply because they are the loudest horns I've heard. I mounted them inside the left and right fairing panels.

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/horns

Here is a photo of how I mounted a Gold Wing horn on my 2010 in the side fairing panel under the front turn signal. I had to remove the panels and cut holes in the inner black panel for them to fit, and fabricate a bracket to hold them in. I did the same thing with the FIAMM freeway blasters on my 2008. The FIAMMs were a little smaller and easier to fit. I don't think the Wing horns would fit on the 2008/2009 bikes, because that panel is bit more narrow.



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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 06:45:51 pm »
Funny U should ask that question? Just this week I installed the AIR CANNON From Aerostitch! OMG....when they tested it out back N the mechanic's corner U could hear it out front N the showroom. There must be (3) doors separating the shop from the showroom so YES it is Very Very Loud but then again I think that's what your after?

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PS: If you do a search U will find the suggestions for your installation on here as I did. Just printed them out and gave to my mechanic as I was in for scheduled maintence anyway. Decided not to mount inside the fairing just too large so we took another approach as shown N the pic.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 06:58:05 pm »
Here is the dual disc Stebel Murph sells. I think these may be the easiest to mount.

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_133&products_id=356
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 10:13:53 pm »
Here is the dual disc Stebel Murph sells. I think these may be the easiest to mount.

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_133&products_id=356


I just purchased this and installed it.  I could barely hear the stock horn with my helmet on.  However, this one is much louder...enough to scare me when I push it!  I purchased the extra cable from Murphs with the relay and fuse, then ran it directly to the battery.

The stock horn has a mounting bracket that looks like a triangle with two bolts (or was it three?).  The new horns have little thin metal mounting arms.  I simply mounted one horn per arm, and mounted one arm in each of the original bolts.  Easy and works great.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2012, 03:13:12 pm »
Fred- I am going to do the Stebels...I am having them put on my 2011 Concours- do I need the horns AND the wiring harness- or just the horns?

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2012, 04:35:22 pm »
Fred- I am going to do the Stebels...I am having them put on my 2011 Concours- do I need the horns AND the wiring harness- or just the horns?

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Murph's harness kit contains a relay and fuse and all the connectors, so yes, I think you'd be wise to get the harness with the horns.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 12:22:02 pm »
I just put the stebel nautilus compact airhorn on mine.  It is VERY loud. 139 db.  Ordered that and the wiring harness from murph, but used a 20amp fuse.  I have both the original horn and airhorn hooked up.  I don't know why though.  I can't hear the stock horn at all.  Very easy install.  Twistedthrottle.com has specific instructions on how to do it on the c14. I love it.  Its louder than any car horn I have.  Good luck!

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 12:24:29 pm »
I just put the stebel nautilus compact airhorn on mine.  It is VERY loud, even at 80 mph. 139 db!!  Ordered that and the wiring harness from murph, but used a 20amp fuse.  I have both the original horn and airhorn hooked up.  I don't know why though.  I can't hear the stock horn at all.  Very easy install.  Twistedthrottle.com has specific instructions on how to do it on the c14. I love it.  Its louder than any car horn I have.  Good luck!

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 01:45:02 pm »
My wife just ordered 2 Stebels, one for each of us. I'll get hers done 1st, that'll be the easy one. From looking at horn posts, doing it on the Connie isn't quite as easy.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 08:34:29 pm »
I used the Stebel Nautilus compact air horn, mounted inside the right fairing. I also got Murph's harness so I could hook up the stock horns as a backup. Good thing too as the horns will blow the 10 amp fuses that comes with the unit, leaving you with only the stock horns working. Replaced the fuse with a 15 amp and have had no problems since.

Took the bike to get it inspected. Got a "Holy s--t" out of the inspector when I hit the horn button.  :c029:

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2012, 05:04:01 pm »
I just put the stebel nautilus compact airhorn on mine.  It is VERY loud. 139 db.  Ordered that and the wiring harness from murph, but used a 20amp fuse.  I have both the original horn and airhorn hooked up.  I don't know why though.  I can't hear the stock horn at all.  Very easy install.  Twistedthrottle.com has specific instructions on how to do it on the c14. I love it.  Its louder than any car horn I have.  Good luck!

I'd love to see where you mounted it...  pics guys, please!  :)
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 05:17:49 pm »
I've been wondering about a horn upgrade for my 2011, sounds like Murph will be hearing from me soon. Thanks for the info.

On the lighter side, I got a kick out of this fellows upgrade! :-\
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 05:35:51 pm »
Too much fun with that loud horn!  I love scaring the texters!  A few years back, someone was texting and driving, cut me off, and I honked....scared the s*** out of the girl, and she dropped her phone out the window and it went into about a thousand little pieces!

Making them drop their phones is just too fun!  I never feel bad, because these people are accidents waiting to happen.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2012, 10:43:07 pm »
Has anyone tried the "Screaming Banshee" air horn?
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 01:41:20 am »
I used Murph's horns and wires a year ago, easy to install

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 06:54:10 pm »
Has anyone tried the "Screaming Banshee" air horn?

LOOKS to be the same as the Stebel .... physically
diffeemce seems to be the electronics that cycle the horn and lights hi/lo
also I saw another copy/clone called the LoLo air horn, at northern tool...same package
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 09:59:23 pm »
Has anyone tried the "Screaming Banshee" air horn?


LOOKS to be the same as the Stebel .... physically
 I saw another copy/clone called the LoLo air horn, at northern tool...same package

There appear to be many clones or re-labels of the Stebel. I noticed that the Screaming Banshee website offers
 the horn pre-separated for $59.99. Mine wasn't that hard to separate, but I would have purchased
the split screamer if it had been available then. The Split Screamer looks to be a very good option for those of you that want to
install it down in the cowling/fairing that houses the front turn signal. Copying from Fred H.'s Gold Wing horn install, I placed my Stebel
horn down on the the right side (compressor is up above under the right top cover). I had originally planned on
putting another Stebel on the opposite side but I decided that all things considered (Amp draw, effectiveness, compressor
space) that a different frequency horn would be better than just more of the same. I installed a Low frequency Fiamm freeway blaster on the
left side. Since it only draws a little over 5 amps, I was able to piggyback it's electrical connection off of the same relay as
the high amp Stebel.  The combination was effective on my safety inspector, I've yet to use the combo on a cager.
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 06:27:53 pm »
where are the instructions for installing the Stebel Murph sells?
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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 09:10:01 pm »
I installed a Screaming Banshee about 6 months ago. It required the reverse polarity relay that they will provide for free. I installed it on the same mount along with the OEM horn. That location has clearance with the suspension travel and helps keep the sound projecting forward instead of trapped in the bodywork. It is certainly loud and my lights flash as advertised. As yet have not used it in an urgent situation.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2012, 10:54:48 pm »
Can you explain what a reverse polarity relay is and why used?  Also any way to post a photo of your mounting?  Thanks

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 02:38:27 am »
Can you explain what a reverse polarity relay is and why used?  Also any way to post a photo of your mounting?  Thanks

Most motorcycle horns work by using the positive side of the energizing system but on our Connies the negative side is what runs the horn. When they first designed the system some found that when the bike first turn on the horn was activated immediately. They immediately sent me a relay and I believe later production runs may have the relay included.

The control switch is a separate unit that attaches to the original horn wiring and you have a choice to delay activation by differing intervals so you can use the OEM horn in  the normal Beep Beep. When you hold the button down for the selected interval you can have a loud constant or variable horn depending on your presets. Also you can wire it to the Headlights and have them flash. I have this under the right top faring so that I have access to change the settings if desired.

The horn itself looks like a Wolo  Bad Boy horn which you could but elsewhere. I was able to get the horn portion attached to the same bracket that holds the OEM horn.

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 03:00:55 am »
I was able to get the horn portion attached to the same bracket that holds the OEM horn.

Twisted Throttle has this warning about the Stebel Nautilus:
Quote from: Twisted Throttle Website
Per the manufacturer, this horn should be mounted so that the cylinder is vertical (with the horn facing down). There should be no more than a 15 degree variance from the vertical position. If it is not mounted per these specifications, then the horn may cease to function after a period of time.

From your picture, I'm assuming that the Screaming Banshee had no such warning?
 

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 03:47:01 am »
I was able to get the horn portion attached to the same bracket that holds the OEM horn.

Twisted Throttle has this warning about the Stebel Nautilus:
Quote from: Twisted Throttle Website
Per the manufacturer, this horn should be mounted so that the cylinder is vertical (with the horn facing down). There should be no more than a 15 degree variance from the vertical position. If it is not mounted per these specifications, then the horn may cease to function after a period of time.

From your picture, I'm assuming that the Screaming Banshee had no such
 

I went back to their website and it said that 30 degrees are OK. Guess I better go back and check it. Thanks!

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Re: Horn upgrade
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 05:41:39 am »
I got the freeway hi/lo blaster. I had an outside home alarm horn laying around. So I bought the siren driver and mounted it on the left police bar since the freeway blasters were mounted on the right.  :)