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Offline Jagman

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Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« on: August 14, 2011, 07:38:52 pm »
I did enlist a buddy and fellow rider and it went much easier as a two man job.  As Maxtog mentioned on another thread, the hold the washer at the dimple with a dental appliance method while I tightened the bolts worked very well after we got it figured out.

My first impression after getting the left bar tight enough to sit on the bike and see how they felt, and prior to moving on with the project was great.  They felt awesome and on we went.

It took about an hour without rushing and getting the system down to hold the washer, and really not a tough job at all...just a little tricky.
I rode the bike home from my friends house and put a total of about 100 miles on the bike between yesterday afternoon and a bit last night.
I had taken the Helibar risers off the bike and had decided to go with the stock setup and the wedges to get it as close to factory as possible.  For me, the bike handles substantially better with the bars lowered and I do not find them uncomfortable.  In fact I find the riding position more natural and athletic that the straight up position the risers forced on me. 

So here's the latest thoughts and kind of interesting development with the wedges.  First, the subtle lift on the ends of the bars looks and feels perfect when sitting on the bike. The equally very small pull back is just about perfect to keep nearly the stock bar height and not have to stretch to reach the bars.  My left hand feels perfect on the bar while riding.  My ride hand has developed an ache that dare I say is no better or possibly worse than with the stock height bars without wedges.  I'm disappointed because they truly feel almost perfect, but after about 4 hours of riding today, the ache in the right hand hand came on pretty fast   

Could it be because the bars come a bit closer together in terms of width?  That is one part about the setup that I don't particularly like, preferring the bars to be wider vs narrower.  I'm not giving up on them yet cause it feels so close, but I thought I had nailed it during the 2 hours I rode it yesterday after I installed them.

As much as I love this bike, I'm finding that dialing a bar position that doesn't make my hand ache is becoming frustrating.  It's not about vibrations, it's about hand position.  I would add something else to the C14 that needs to be added to future models other than cruise control; adjustable bars like on the FJR 1300 and various BMW's would be great.

A note to add that the product itself is top notch with all bolts requested and about 3 days from order to my door!

Any thoughts?
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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 01:07:42 am »
I installed the C14 KB risers on my 2010  shortly after buying the bike and they made a huge difference in my comfort level.  But, after a couple of long trips and developing pretty severe pain from pressure on the bars, I decided that the risers were not quite enough.  I thought I was going to have to live with it until I "discovered" the wedges offered by Murphs.  I thought that might be the answer to my problem and sure enough, after installing the wedges on top of the risers, the bars are perfect for me.  But trust me when I say that having a second person to help with the install is critical if you want to avoid a frustrating experience.  I did the install by myself, but it was a B**ch!  Maybe its easier if you don't have the risers on, but with the risers its a three handed job!
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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 01:48:14 am »
After running a year with only the risers, I added Phil's wedges a couple of days ago.   Did the job alone and don't really know if the washers stayed put when I tightened up the bolts.  Put two 50 miles rides in and think I'm gonna like this change.  By the way, I put the wedges under the risers. :beerchug:

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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2011, 08:39:07 pm »
I may have spoken too soon.  I've been riding with no risers and just the wedges for a few weeks now and really like the subtle change the wedges provide.

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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2011, 01:58:37 am »
After running a year with only the risers, I added Phil's wedges a couple of days ago.   Did the job alone and don't really know if the washers stayed put when I tightened up the bolts.  Put two 50 miles rides in and think I'm gonna like this change.  By the way, I put the wedges under the risers. :beerchug:

Beware of this setup!

I was chatting with Phil about having the wedges under the risers about a month ago, and he was very concerned this might cause the bolts to bend or even break.  There is no space in the bolt hole of the riser for the bolt to move off to the side of the hole when the wedge is under the riser, because the hole is tight against the side of the bolt. 

After our conversation, he was going to contact Murph to alert him so Murph could warn his customers, and I think Murph posted a warning on his web page against doing that very thing.
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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 09:22:26 am »
Maybe its easier if you don't have the risers on, but with the risers its a three handed job!

I just installed the wedges on my bike and my wifes. I didn't have any trouble at all. The hardest thing was to get the little washers to line up. What I did was take out the two end bolts of the risers, leaving in the middle bolt. I then bolted in the wedge in the bolt hole closed to the tank. I then took out the center bolt, slid the wedge into position and put in the other two bolts. The bars never left there position.

I used a dental pick to rotate and hold the washers in place.  This part was still hard as it was difficult to see the notches sometimes.

I do like the change so far.   I haven't gone far yet, but I did notice that around town when you are hitting the brakes, it is less pressure on my arms and hands.  I think handling has suffered by the risers and wedges, but I'm willing to sacrifice some handling for comfort. It is all straight flat roads around here anyway. I have to drive 100 miles to find a curve.

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Re: Installed Murphs Wedges yesterday and...
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 03:17:47 pm »
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I do like the change so far.   I haven't gone far yet, but I did notice that around town when you are hitting the brakes, it is less pressure on my arms and hands.  I think handling has suffered by the risers and wedges, but I'm willing to sacrifice some handling for comfort. It is all straight flat roads around here anyway. I have to drive 100 miles to find a curve.

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Tom-I agree that risers do limit the maximum handling potential.  I had 2" Heli rises then back to stock.  For me?  Big difference in handling.  I then added Wedges under the stock bars.  At first I thought that the decrease in bar width was keeping the handling from optimum, so after trying just the stock bar height again, I pretty much discovered there really isn't much difference.  After riding with stock height again for a week I decided to install the Murphs risers that I had bought a while back on here and never installed. They are 1/2" shorter than the Heli bars.  I did not install the wedges under the risers this time.  These bars feel better with the 1/2" less height than the Heli bars and I think handle better.  Still I believe that very best configuration for handling and comfort for me, was the stock bar height and wedges.  The wedges themselves lift the bar ends up almost 1" and bring the bars back maybe an inch, so essentially I got a 1" rise and a little pull back.  As mentioned I have the Murphs risers on now and the last config I may try is the wedges under the risers.  I'm not sure though.  More likely I will pull these risers for the last time, reinstall the bars at stock height with wedges, and leave it at that.  It's pretty amazing how much the wedges do lift the bars up for a small rise affect while also altering the grip angle for maximum comfort.  I can already tell that just with the risers, there is a bit less comfort for the hands.
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