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Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« on: February 01, 2015, 01:42:55 pm »
Hi,
I'm looking at trading in my Bandit on a 2014 Connie next weekend, and looking to add the Kawi large trunk. Just a few questions, and I figure if anybody will know....I'll probably find them here!

- Will this case fit two full modular full face helmets?

- Is it possible to re-key the case to the same key as the bike?

- Is this s good case, or would I be better served with an E55 Maxia or something like that?

I prefer the look of Phil's racks when the case is removed because the universal mounting base sticks out like a sore thumb. That being said, the trunk would be on 90% of the time.

I think the Kawi colour matched trunk is better looking, but I haven't seen the two side by side in person to really be able to tell.

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 03:02:49 pm »
- Will this case fit two full modular full face helmets?

I haven't tried 2 modulars but it does fit my Neotec and my wifes Arai Corsair.  :great:

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 03:33:07 pm »
Pat, I may have misunderstood your comment about my rack but, The Kawasaki trunk is really a Givi monoLOCK and it requires the mounting plate to be attached to whatever aftermarket rack you use. Even when the trunk is removed you'll still have the mounting plate. If you decide on a Givi monoKEY trunk you'll have a fairly clean rack with the trunk removed (see photo). I had a 50L trunk and it held two helmets, however I have new NOLAN N104s and they are quite a bit larger than the old helmets, so helmet brand makes a difference in what fits. 
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 06:30:40 pm »
Thanks. I should have been more clear...I blame my wife who is always rushing me when I'm on the computer!  ::)

Yes, I understand that the Kawasaki trunk is the monoKEY and needs the extra universal adapter. I like the looks of the Kawi trunk better than some of the monoLOCK cases, but I like the looks of Phil's racks way better.

Phil, your racks look awesome. Would it be hard to make a couple bolt on brackets that could hold down the monoKEY cases? Looks to me like the actual lock mechanism and attachment are the same, just the posts or slots would be different. Then your awesome racks could be used with practically any case......anyway.

So helmets vary and I'll just have to try mine in the box and see if they fit. I guess my big question is - can the Kawi box be keyed to use the same key as the bike?


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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2015, 06:42:00 pm »
Pat, the mounting hardware for MonoLOCK bags are different than MonoKEY bags.
Like you, I like the looks of Kawasaki's Bag. Which is a MonoLOCK.

Not knowing this,  I bought the Kawasaki Bag and discovered I had to use the Universal Mounting Kit (UMK) to mount it..

I didn't like the (UMK), so I've been trying to find a way to buy/build mounting hardware that I can install the Kawasaki Bag directly onto Phil's Rack.     Getting the parts machined has been a problem.   But, I think I'll eventually get there...

NOTE: (If you don't use the (UMK) Phil's rack will be slightly too short to work with the (mounting Hardware) , so I bought a rack from Phil, and welded an extension on it.

Bottom line, this has turned into a bigger project that I originally thought, But eventually, it will work out..

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2015, 08:58:53 pm »
If you look around on ebay, you'll find MANY different type of rear trunks.  I cannot get myself to pay $100 for a mounting kit for Givi's overpriced products.  I use the Matuzu large trunk, and VERY happy with it personally.  I can buy 3 of them for the price of one Givi and mounting kit.

Additionally, I drilled a hole in the back/bottom, put a grommet in in, and ran power to it, so I have a 12V charging station inside, and used a trailer waterproof connector so I can still easily remove the trunk when I want.  I went a bit extra, and also brought the brake lights circuitry in there, which powers an LED strip that I inserted in the red reflector area.

This looks just as nice as the Kawi and Givi models, with a nice polished black and matt finish as well.

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2015, 10:37:21 pm »
Don't mean to split hairs, BUT: There still seems to be some confusion in terminology: 

Top Photo: 
Givi monoLOCK: This is the Kawasaki trunk's mounting plate. It and many other Givi (monoLOCK) trunks use something similar and all REQUIRE a mounting plate as shown.
(the mounting plate fits perfectly on my rack, with or without my T-nuts)

Bottom Photo:
Givi monoKEY: This is Givi's other style of mounting that costs $20 extra and fits my rack as shown.



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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 03:23:31 pm »
I guess I just wish that you made a rack compatible with Kawasaki's Monolock case. The universal plate is oogly. Ah well, my case will be on 90% of the time anyway.....


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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 09:34:15 pm »
There is one bright side to your dilemma, with the mounting plate you can change positions of the trunk to fit your passenger.
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 11:26:09 pm »
My 47L Kawi trunk would NOT hold two FF modular helmets. one med one small.  NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Go with the biggest.
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2015, 04:20:36 am »
I have the E55...Less would be a
 from my looking at it. Back rest in top case and all is good, Wife and daughters are 5'-5'2" and all comfortable Oldest even falls asleep on the back!!

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2015, 03:44:40 pm »
For Clarity; the Kawasaki Trunk is a MonoLOCK. (Requires a Universal Mounting Plate to mount on a C-14)
In another discussion it was mentioned that the MonoLOCK Trunks are not quite as good (strong) as the MonoKEY design.

Not sure why Kawasaki Chose the design but they did.  And it ain't cheap!
Many of us have bought the Kawasaki trunk because (with it's matching color) it looks good on the bike.

Phil's racks are top notch! Regardless of which Trunk you buy, I recommend you get one of his racks.

Today, I'm going to ask Givi if they sell a latch/base (for a MonoLOCK) that I can install on Phil's rack (Instead of the Universal Mounting Plate).
Will let you know what I find out.

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2015, 08:01:36 pm »
My 47L Kawi trunk would NOT hold two FF modular helmets. one med one small.  NOT EVEN CLOSE.


You must be doing something wrong PR...  ???

My kawi 47 hold my size large Neotec and mama's size medium Arai Corsair, both have Scala G4's on em too...  :great: :great:

You do have to place one on it's side to get it to fit, did you try that?  ???






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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2015, 08:32:15 pm »
Today, I'm going to ask Givi if they sell a latch/base (for a MonoLOCK) that I can install on Phil's rack (Instead of the Universal Mounting Plate).
Will let you know what I find out.

Update: I received a reply from Givi. I have to admit the guy was responsive to several notes but ultimately, he was no help at all.

I told him about the movement problem on the C-14 (using Kawasaki Trunk MonoLOCK  ). I told him it seemed a bit unsafe.
He said the problem was Kawasaki's because of th eplastic rack, and said he did NOT recommend that a passenger lean on the trunk...
That P____d me off........   >:(

So (Me being ME) I replied back and asked, How did he think a passenger could keep from leaning on the GiVI trunk "with it right behind him"?
(Yes, I know you can install a backrest, but most don't, and I didn't go into that detail)...

I also contacted SW-Motech and asked if they could help... (Awaiting that answer)

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 08:53:40 pm »
Today, I'm going to ask Givi if they sell a latch/base (for a MonoLOCK) that I can install on Phil's rack (Instead of the Universal Mounting Plate).
Will let you know what I find out.

Update: I received a reply from Givi. I have to admit the guy was responsive to several notes but ultimately, he was no help at all.

I told him about the movement problem on the C-14 (using Kawasaki Trunk MonoLOCK  ). I told him it seemed a bit unsafe.
He said the problem was Kawasaki's because of th eplastic rack, and said he did NOT recommend that a passenger lean on the trunk...
That P____d me off........   >:(

So (Me being ME) I replied back and asked, How did he think a passenger could keep from leaning on the GiVI trunk "with it right behind him"?
(Yes, I know you can install a backrest, but most don't, and I didn't go into that detail)...

I also contacted SW-Motech and asked if they could help... (Awaiting that answer)

Ride safe, Ted


Hi Ted,
I have Phils rack with the Kawi 47 plate mounted on it, works great and very sturdy, plus it allows me to slide the trunk back a bit further so I can run the Corbin passenger backrest for mama or my daughter, mama loves the comfort of it. The Corbin passenger backrest also allows mama to have back support regardless if the trunk is mounted or not, and I rarely run with the rear trunk on anyways...

It also allows me enough room to also run my trunk with my smuggler and still be able to open the smuggler trunk up no problem.  :great: :great:










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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 09:06:44 pm »
Yes, I knew about yours ZG. I agree that is a good option.
(But not all of us have a Corbin Seat with backrest installed).

I also had a Corbin with backrest. But the Corbin was too hard.
Bought a Baldwin, which does not have a backrest attached.

Givi and Kawasaki both sell a Back Pad for the bags.
I thought it was kinda "anal retentive" for him to suggest NOT leaning on the trunk "as a cure"..
I can just see myself telling the wife...
Don't worry, it's perfectly safe, just don't lean on the trunk, as you may think your going to fall off....  ;)

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2015, 09:40:08 pm »
Yes, I knew about yours ZG. I agree that is a good option.
(But not all of us have a Corbin Seat with backrest installed).

I also had a Corbin with backrest. But the Corbin was too hard.
Bought a Baldwin, which does not have a backrest attached.

Givi and Kawasaki both sell a Back Pad for the bags.
I thought it was kinda "anal retentive" for him to suggest NOT leaning on the trunk "as a cure"..
I can just see myself telling the wife...
Don't worry, it's perfectly safe, just don't lean on the trunk, as you may fall off....  ;)

Ride safe, Ted

You shouldn't worry too much about that Ted, I've yet to hear of one incident that the rear trunk broke off the mounting plate. If you want to really worry consider that any rack available is mounted to the passenger grab rails, and those are plastic too, somebody should come out with some aftermarket passenger grab rails that are not plastic IMO.
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2015, 10:04:20 pm »
Buy a metal rack from phil & mount the plate to it !!. Then you will not have any flex like the stock plastic rack allowed  :beerchug:
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2015, 08:45:27 pm »
Thanks Zarticus.
I already have a Phil's rack.

I just don't like the Universal Mounting Plate.
(Being anal retentive) I'm working to mount a MonoLOCK trunk like the MonoKEY trunks are mounted..

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2015, 08:48:41 pm »
Thanks Zarticus.
I already have a Phil's rack.

I just don't like the Universal Mounting Plate.
(Being anal retentive) I'm working to mount a MonoLOCK trunk like the MonoKEY trunks are mounted..

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Got it, Thought you still had the stock rack. If you figure out how to eliminate the universal plate let me know because I hate it  :beerchug:
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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2015, 02:20:03 am »
I've figured out how to do it;

To make Phil's Rack long enough, I extended the rack 1 inch (by shaping and welding on a piece of Aluminum at the rear)..

To replace the Universal Mounting Plate, I need to build (or buy) a latch and front anchor/base.
I measured and did machine drawings.
I just haven't had the latch parts built because of the complexity (ie; manufacturing cost).
Both parts have to be machined from 3 sides.... Not an easy/cheap part to build, and I no longer have a Mill...

Which is why I've been trying to find anyone that makes plastic or aluminum parts....

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2015, 03:31:03 pm »
Don't know if it'll help but I had a Shad-50L and didn't like the plastic plate so I made this.. NOT practical or economical but it sure held the trunk without ANY bobble. Only took me a couple of days to finish it, The 1/2" plate was massive overkill but it was all I had. I made the hold-down bar at the front spring loaded underneath so it gripped the trunk like a bear trap.  :)


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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2015, 03:58:38 pm »
WOW,,, Phillip, I like your bear trap Idea!
If I can do that on mine, it would make things a lot easier to do.
THANK YOU!

The biggest problem though; is still the latch.
I've tried to figure out if the MonoKEY latch could be modified to work.
But I don't have 1 in hand to measure, and (from the picture) I don't think it will work.
Does anyone happen to have a (cheep) Monokey Latch (bent broken or distorted is fine) that I could modify?

I'm considered cutting the latch out of the Universal Mount (and finding a way to attach it to your rack).
But, I hate to cut up my current Universal Mount (as it is what I'm using now).
Does anyone happen to have a (cheep) Universal Mount (bent broken or distorted is fine) that I could cut up?

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Re: Kawasaki Large rear trunk questions
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2015, 12:53:12 am »
UPDATE: 
After searching Everywhere I could think of, and contacting various suppliers I was about to give up on locating a kit to mount the MonoLOCK trunk.
This hardware would mount the MonoLOCK Trunks,,,  without the Universal Mount.

I was about to give up and have the parts made....   >:(

BUT,,, Phil found (and sent me) an address to a supplier in Australia.  THANK YOU PHIL!!!!

I'm currently talking with that supplier to buy the parts that are needed.

Another Update:   I ordered a kit... Shipping was awful!!!!
 
   As soon as I get the parts, I will determine if they will fit on Phil's Rack (as is), or if a longer rack is required.

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