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Kawasaki Top Case
« on: February 02, 2013, 05:48:07 pm »
I am interested in getting a top case for my Concours 14. The Kawasaki dealer where I bought the bike has the OEM (made by Givi) top case (Kawasaki Part# - 232LUU-0020) 47 Liter (with mounting hardware) for $242. Can I assume that at this price it is a monolock case (vs the monokey)? It seems too cheap to be a monokey case. The dealer doesn't know. Anybody have one or know anything about it? Any other recommendations? Thanks...
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 05:57:32 pm »
By monokey do you mean a single key fits case, bags, gascap and ignition? No! You can not get the the top case keyed the same as the bike.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 06:16:04 pm »
By monokey do you mean a single key fits case, bags, gascap and ignition? No! You can not get the the top case keyed the same as the bike.


Not quite what I meant. Givi has 2 lines of cases... monokey which is a significantly higher quality than the monolock line. See the below link for a better explanation. Thanks for your reply.

http://www.giviluggage.co/givi-luggage-explained/the-difference-between-the-givi-monolock-monokey-technology/
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 07:04:06 pm »
The Kawi branded 47L Givi box is a Monolock.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 08:55:19 pm »
As a MonoLOCK case it will require the additional universal mounting plate. That will allow you to attach the trunk & univ. plate to the stock plastic rack. The MonoKEY trunks can be attached directly to an aftermarket rack using either Givi's or SW-Motech mounting kit.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 10:36:20 pm »
As a MonoLOCK case it will require the additional universal mounting plate. That will allow you to attach the trunk & univ. plate to the stock plastic rack. The MonoKEY trunks can be attached directly to an aftermarket rack using either Givi's or SW-Motech mounting kit.


True, but according to the Givi web-site... http://www.giviluggage.co/givi-luggage-explained/the-difference-between-the-givi-monolock-monokey-technology/

"Monolock cases are single skinned and of lightweight construction so they are for perfect use on scooters and small motorcycle but they are not suitable for high speed use."

which leads me to believe that they are not suited for the Concours.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 08:19:58 am »
As a MonoLOCK case it will require the additional universal mounting plate. That will allow you to attach the trunk & univ. plate to the stock plastic rack. The MonoKEY trunks can be attached directly to an aftermarket rack using either Givi's or SW-Motech mounting kit.


True, but according to the Givi web-site... http://www.giviluggage.co/givi-luggage-explained/the-difference-between-the-givi-monolock-monokey-technology/

"Monolock cases are single skinned and of lightweight construction so they are for perfect use on scooters and small motorcycle but they are not suitable for high speed use."

which leads me to believe that they are not suited for the Concours.

Opinions?


 If that's the case (pun intended), then it makes little sense for Kawasaki to use the monolock instead of the monokey set up for it's accessory line.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 10:02:48 am »
Most of what TwistedThrottle sells (of the Givi line) is Monokey. The E-series (e.g., E55 Maxia) are all Monokey afaik.

Does that mean anything? Probably but I don't know what. But if TwistedThrottle sells it, it must be ok....     :beerchug:
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 01:01:35 pm »
As a MonoLOCK case it will require the additional universal mounting plate. That will allow you to attach the trunk & univ. plate to the stock plastic rack. The MonoKEY trunks can be attached directly to an aftermarket rack using either Givi's or SW-Motech mounting kit.


True, but according to the Givi web-site... http://www.giviluggage.co/givi-luggage-explained/the-difference-between-the-givi-monolock-monokey-technology/

"Monolock cases are single skinned and of lightweight construction so they are for perfect use on scooters and small motorcycle but they are not suitable for high speed use."

which leads me to believe that they are not suited for the Concours.

Opinions?


 If that's the case (pun intended), then it makes little sense for Kawasaki to use the monolock instead of the monokey set up for it's accessory line.


Has me wondering also. Kawasaki uses the Monolock in its accessory line, but Givi recommends against using it (too flimsy?) on bikes like the Concours... Hmmmmm...
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 03:11:30 pm »
I don't think the quality of the trunk itself has anything to do with Kawa. going with the monolock as its accessory. If you intend to mount their accessory trunk on the stock bike you MUST use a universal mounting plate. It helps reinforce the plastic rack to make it acceptable for holding a trunk. Also cost has to be a part of the equation.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 03:51:11 pm »
I recently bought a used 47 litre Kawasaki case. It is indeed part of the Monolock series.  The construction is not exactly what I would consider "robust", but I think it is adequate for the intended use.  It does have a "max 2 kg (6.6 lbs.) and 80 mph sticker inside, so I guess I won't be hauling much beer up there  ;D.  Instead I'll stick to rain gear and other light stuff I need quick access to.  The mount does seem to flex somewhat but it's hard to tell what the culprit is; bear in mind that it is winter here, so I have yet to ride with this in place. This site has plenty of positive references to Phil's rack adding rigidity.  I have also read that the rails to which the stock (or aftermarket) rack is attached are actually plastic, although they have the appearance of aluminum, and as such they are also part of the problem.  I guess I'd like to know if it's actually the rails that flex, or if replacing the the stock rack with Phil's rack completely solves flexing issues.  I am happy with the size and appearance of the case, and don't really need to carry lots of heavy stuff way up there anyway, although I think a few pounds over the sticker would be ok...I think Givi makes a great product, and they make a separate line (monokey) for the heavy duty requirements some users have.  The stock rack has a fairly low max weight limit of 10 kg iirc anyway...

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 05:59:58 pm »
I have the 47 L OEM - serves it purpose, no worries.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2013, 06:13:51 pm »
I have the 47 L OEM - serves it purpose, no worries.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2013, 08:15:32 pm »
I know that my Kawasaki top case will haul a 20+ pound box of staples and withstand 140MPH w/o issue.  :o

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2013, 08:16:56 pm »
I know that my Kawasaki top case will haul a 20+ pound box of staples and withstand 140MPH w/o issue.  :o


That's an awful lot of staples to help hold it down. Wouldn't bolts have worked better?  :D

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 08:20:12 pm »
I know that my Kawasaki top case will haul a 20+ pound box of staples and withstand 140MPH w/o issue.  :o


That's an awful lot of staples to help hold it down. Wouldn't bolts have worked better?  :D

Guess that could be another option.   ;D

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 09:25:24 pm »
The only other thing I would add about the 47L OEM is: after the dealer put it on I had to adjust it to my wife - she was leaning into me as the back pad forced this position. Take the factory rack off the bike, attach the Givi rack to the bike rack, have the hex head facing the bottom toward the rear brake light. The reason is the dealer did it the opposite way and the thread ends were touching the top of the brake light which made me think that at some point they would cause some damage. There is plenty of adjustment front to rear. Once all adjustment is figured out tighten the two racks and then place back on the bike. I have not had any issues with flexing or any bolts becoming loose so far. Definitely something I would check periodically.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2013, 10:06:51 pm »
Just put the 47L kawasaki rack on and thought there was alittle too much wobble for me so used Phil's rack....problem solved. Seems sturdy enough to me.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 06:25:05 pm »
Just put the 47L kawasaki rack on and thought there was alittle too much wobble for me so used Phil's rack....problem solved. Seems sturdy enough to me.

Same here. Using Phil's rack it's solid.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2013, 09:48:23 pm »
Just put the 47L kawasaki rack on and thought there was alittle too much wobble for me so used Phil's rack....problem solved. Seems sturdy enough to me.


While I am sure that Phil's rack will improve mounting stability of the monolock case, that is not what concerned me the most when comparing the two Givi case lines (monolock vs monokey). I had a chance to compare them side by side in a bike shop and what convinced me to go the monokey route was the much better quality of construction (thicker plastic), better mounting mechanism and better locking mechanism. Even Givi doesn't recommend the monolock line (i.e. Kawasaki accessory case) for bikes such as ours (http://www.giviluggage.co/givi-luggage-explained/the-difference-between-the-givi-monolock-monokey-technology/.)  stating ... "Monolock cases are single skinned and of lightweight construction so they are for perfect use on scooters and small motorcycles but they are not suitable for high speed use."

IMHO, the difference in price between the two lines isn't great enough to consider the monolock case. Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2013, 10:35:15 pm »
If that's the case (pun intended)


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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2013, 01:34:32 am »
I have never had a monolock, but I have had a monokey sitting in the garage collecting dust for more than a year now (it was given to me). I had to make some adjustments to the Givi rack that came with it (dremmel) and now it sits atop the newly acquired Connie! It is very well made even though it is an old Maxia model. I would recommend the monokey cases, they are well made!
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2013, 02:12:39 pm »
Both the monolock and monokey cases by GIVI are good quality but the monokey is definitely a more durable case.  I have the Maxia 55 and so far love it.  I have yet load it up fully but is nice for locking up my wife and I modular helmets at stopped for hiking.  I have mine mounted on the GIVI mounting rack which extremely secure and stable with no movement but can take some time to install and decipher the cryptic directions
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2016, 11:26:41 pm »
All:
Just sent back a Shad48  case because no way  does it sem compatable with the c-14 2012 I have. Seemed spaceship big, not all  that intuitive to mount. Less is more. Keep  it minimalist

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2016, 11:38:41 pm »
I love my SHAD-48 w/ carbon fiber-like top and back rest for passenger. To me, it looks good on the Concours and was very easy to mount; took about 15 mins. Of course, when I want to go more sporty, I remove the case and if I want to go "really" sporty...remove all cases. Like a transformer in a way.  :great:
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