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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 12:30:43 am »
Big Al, many of us have "that" Kawasaki Trunk on our Concours.
I will agree that the Monolock is not as robust as the Monokey, but the Kawasaki/Givi Monolock case itself,,,, is fine for use on a Concours.

I also wonder why Give sez that the Monolock should not be used, because the trunk your looking at,,  was designed by Givi to mount on a Concours... (Matching colors etc)

NOTE: Unfortunately, the stock Kawasaki Rack is a weak link in the story. The Rack will flex.
          This can be improved my installing an aftermarket rack. Phil's is great.
          (Also) Unfortunately, an adapter is required to install the Kawasaki trunk on any rack.

Lastly, check your $242 price. (I suspect the price is just for the base trunk...)
   If you can get the trunk/top/pad/and mounting hardware for $242, you have a great deal.
         (I think Kawasaki normally gets about $450-$500 for all....)

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 11:17:09 am »
I have the KAW case from 2015.  So far no problems.


My complaint is that it is 'rated' for only 6.5LB of weight.  This seems pretty low, but I reguarly load it to the 10LB range and have no problems.


I'll be leaving tomorrow for a rocky mountain trip and dont expect to have any trouble with it.


i believe theres a different option available now.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2016, 12:10:40 am »
I just put a GIVI Monolock E450NA Simply II on my 2009 - the whole thing seemed a little flimsy on the plastic OEM luggage rack, so I picked up Phil's Farkel rack too and slapped that on, and the top case mount on top of that, and now it all seems pretty solid to me.  I just did an insanely fast (for me, anyway) group ride last week that my local bike shop puts on every month, and the Givi stayed on just fine at 90mph, albeit empty at the time.   I haven't run with a lot of weight in there yet, although my gut tells me that putting more than a little weight that high up on the bike isn't a great idea, no matter what kind of top case it's in.   

I installed the Givi brake light kit in the case too (nice and bright despite how tiny the LEDs are), and wired up a BackOff brake light modulator to the whole shebang while I was under the seat, alternately swearing and soldering.  Thinking that adding a Vololight license plate frame kit would be the last word there, no snoozing cager should be able to miss that.  :)     
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2016, 11:18:17 pm »
Kawasaki is offering two adapter plates, one that works with both sizes of cases and one specifically for the 47 liter case.  The universal adapter can be bought and installed by the end user, and the plate specifically for the 47 liter case is a dealer-install-only part.  Can anybody speak to the advantage of going with the plate that has to be installed by the dealer?
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2016, 01:38:47 pm »
I found an adapter that I felt was better than the "Universal Adapter".
I installed Phil's rack on my bike and installed that adapter on it.
That adapter I used, required drilling holes in specific locations. (locations were not supplied with the adapter).
After some careful measuring, it worked out fine.

I guess it's possible that Kawasaki is offering that adapter.

Do you happen to have info on the adapter you've found?

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2016, 04:22:22 pm »
I found an adapter that I felt was better than the "Universal Adapter".
I installed Phil's rack on my bike and installed that adapter on it.
That adapter I used, required drilling holes in specific locations. (locations were not supplied with the adapter).
After some careful measuring, it worked out fine.

I guess it's possible that Kawasaki is offering that adapter.

Do you happen to have info on the adapter you've found?

Ride safe, Ted


Well, I just looked at the Kawasaki web site to copy a link to the part, and it's no longer being offered.  Last week it was there.  I guess my question is one I can no longer ask.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2016, 03:01:30 pm »
Just to be sure, I have the dealer installed stock from Kawasaki 47L stock Case and mounting plate.  If I get Phil's Rack, do I still need to get an adapter plate, or does the one I have stock work?
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2016, 03:24:24 pm »
Nuke,
Get the Phils rack,
Then buy the SW Motech adapter kit, (from Phil).
Purchase a Givi MONOKEY not mono lock top case and enjoy.  If you like you can even fit the case with Admore lighting for STT light functions that are bright!
Much better fastening system and far more secure than a plastic adapter attached to a plastic rack while shaking a plastic case all over while riding down the road at high speed.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2016, 03:36:43 pm »
Nuke,
Get the Phils rack,
Then buy the SW Motech adapter kit, (from Phil).
Purchase a Givi MONOKEY not mono lock top case and enjoy.  If you like you can even fit the case with Admore lighting for STT light functions that are bright!
Much better fastening system and far more secure than a plastic adapter attached to a plastic rack while shaking a plastic case all over while riding down the road at high speed.
Phils' Rack for the win!
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You can get a Mono Lock adapter kit from Sw Motech & mount to Phils rack, Then you can use the kawi factory Givi case without an adapter plate & Admore makes a Led light kit for these also.  :beerchug:
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2016, 05:13:20 pm »
Thanks for the Info.  I have no problem with the Monolock case, I know the other is sturdier, but I already own this one  :D.  I'll ride it like I stole it  :motonoises:, and replace the parts afterr they fall off  :rotflmao:
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2016, 07:05:40 pm »
I have the Kawasaki 47L top case, universal adapter and a very long 5/8" thick aluminum luggage rack from Projekt D. The reason I got the long luggage rack is because I have a Baldwin saddle with a built-in holder for a passenger Corbin back rest. I used to have a Corbin seat, but sold it and kept the back rest. The extra long luggage rack gives me the extra space I need for the passenger back rest to fit correctly in front of the top case. Even though the Kawasaki 47L top case has an optional back rest pad, you're not supposed to lean against it because it's too flimsy and will not support the leaning force of a rider's back for very long before it will give way. This setup works very well on my bike. I have the Admore LED light kit installed in the top case for extra visibility for brake lights and turn signals.

I don't have any high speed stability issues with this setup.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2016, 08:18:04 pm »
Even though the Kawasaki 47L top case has an optional back rest pad, you're not supposed to lean against it because it's too flimsy and will not support the leaning force of a rider's back for very long before it will give way.

Don't tell the 5 different people I have had on the back of mine spanning 10+ years and 40-300 lbs that it is to flimsy.  I am sure the MFG says so but I find it to be fine in the real world.  That is a MONOKEY right?  Mono locks are cheaper made I think but I have no experience.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2016, 08:19:53 pm »
Even though the Kawasaki 47L top case has an optional back rest pad, you're not supposed to lean against it because it's too flimsy and will not support the leaning force of a rider's back for very long before it will give way.

Don't tell the 5 different people I have had on the back of mine spanning 10+ years and 40-300 lbs that it is to flimsy.  I am sure the MFG says so but I find it to be fine in the real world.  That is a MONOKEY right?  Mono locks are cheaper made I think but I have no experience.
Bob, no this is the Monolock I'm referring to. You're correct that the Monokey is sturdier.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2016, 12:07:05 pm »
Hmmm, I regularly pack mine up to 22 lbs with no issue.  Stock Ma Kawa Top case, Phils Rack, SW-Motech adapter kit and Admore lights. No passengers and Autobahn speeds in access of 125mph for long periods of time.  I may be testing the envelope but have had ZERO issues.

As everyone has been saying the Ma Kawa rear rack is crap and adding the Givi rack to that is in my opinion even more crap.



 
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2016, 12:13:45 pm »
When I got my Kawasaki Top Case, I didn't like the stock plate or the universal adapter (as the trunk wasn't rigid).
So, I bought one of Phil's racks.
I next found an adapter that I felt was better. it was the SW-Motech.
NOTE: At the time, Phil nor SW-Motech/USA didn't have the adapter so I had to order it from Australia.
           I wasn't aware he handles it now?
I installed Phil's rack on my bike and installed that adapter.
The  adapter, required drilling holes in specific locations. (locations were not supplied with the adapter).
After some careful measuring, it worked out fine.
Much better than the Universal Adapter.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2016, 07:41:59 pm »
When I purchased my 2010 last December it had the Kawi branded Givi box on it but was so wobbly it scared me.  I found the factory plastic rack was cracked.  Past of the purchase deal was that had to be replaced.  It was but before spring I added a Phil's rack and it's as Linc Hayes (of the mod squad) would say "solid man, solid!"

FYI - As for the "one key" system... Kawasaki offers a kit to make your factory top box match you bike key.  Sadly it's only available for the 2015 to present factory boxes.  Different size lock cylinder on the earlier models.
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2016, 03:16:46 pm »
Going back to my post, when mine was too wobbly for me, I contacted my Kawasaki Dealer when I learned that some of the factory rails and racks were cracking. He was supposed to address it with the head office about a Safety Issue.
Not sure if he did or didn't contact the head office.
 
I then contacted GIVI and noted with them. (as they make the bag)
(only response) GIVI suggested that the passenger shouldn't lean against the trunk.

I replied "How can you say that? Your selling pads for the passenger to lean against".
(No reply)

Bottom line, nothing was resolved.

Phil's Rack and the SW-Motech Mounts made it a lot better for me.
(NOTE: Removing the Universal Adapter and replacing with the SW-Motech mounts also lowers the trunk...

I'm pretty happy with the bag itself. Agree it's not as strong as the other design, but "not" going to fall apart.
Looks GREAT on the bike..

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2016, 07:59:36 pm »
Hello! I'm a new 2015 C14 owner, and one who just installed my Kawi branded 47L top box WITH the Dealer only rack replacement. With install the stock rack platform is removed, and replaced with one equipped to attach the box. It's a very thick and robust appearing plastic and secures the box in a snug and wobble free fashion. I have not traveled above the rated speed yet, so have to get back to you on that. Also - will be installing the backrest soon.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2016, 10:43:08 pm »
Can you post a picture of that?

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2016, 04:47:56 pm »
Here's some photos of the Kawasaki "dealer" rack.
I rode 865 miles yesterday with everything on, likely overloaded. No issues, up to 120mph, 95 mph sustained for hours and hours. Also hit a high wind storm (advisory etc.), no issues other than heavy crosswinds are just not fun, ever.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2016, 03:01:40 pm »
I wasn't aware that was available.
Thanx.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2016, 04:45:17 pm »
i added a phill's rack and then purchased the monolock adapter kit from twisted throttle, but they do not list on there site. it is a sw-motech item. it's the same set up as chrisd has pictures of.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2016, 04:49:54 pm »
Did it come with instructions on where to drill the holes?
When I got mine, there were none.
 
NOTE: I moved mine rearward as far as possible so my Bride would have a bit of extra room.

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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2016, 06:51:34 pm »
Ted my Phil's Rack was already taped with the holes as I was undecided I didn't want a predrilled unit.  A friend hooked my up with his drill press and the mounting hardware installed right in, no problems. :great:
 
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Re: Kawasaki Top Case
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2016, 06:13:31 am »
i had mine sent with the monokey kit installed, but i have givi blade 47 top box and is kind of a hybrid design it has both mounting options. so you can have  Phil set set up the holes for the monokey and the sw-motech monolock adapter kit will line up and install just fine. i did not use the front screw hole on the monolock latch mount. it has three screw mounting points and the monokey latch mount only has two mounting points.