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Title: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: Knomad on October 22, 2017, 11:34:59 pm
I did a search with no results. I have just purchased a 2016 C14. My 2009 uses a KA1406 K&N air filter. I see no listing for the 2016, so I contact K&N and they won't commit to the fact of if the same filter will work in the 2016. SO, anyone running a K&N and if so, what's the part number. Thanks.
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: Syxxphive on October 23, 2017, 12:10:45 am
The air filter for all years of C14 is the same.
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: robertv on October 23, 2017, 12:11:12 am
Here's what I'm using on my 2008...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NAUAQU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001NAUAQU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 23, 2017, 04:22:24 am
I've been using the OEM filters, but next replacement will be this one...

https://www.amazon.com/Hiflofiltro-HFA2916-Premium-Replacement-Filter/dp/B005DUM9MO/ref=pd_sbs_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7G475GJ9VBK56JE55J7G (https://www.amazon.com/Hiflofiltro-HFA2916-Premium-Replacement-Filter/dp/B005DUM9MO/ref=pd_sbs_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=7G475GJ9VBK56JE55J7G)

I've had one in hand, and find it to be a reasonable priced version, that should perform fine...
I am holding off on installing an oiled filter on my C14, simply because I don't want one in that airbox, to possibly cause issues with sensors and such..
I do use the KN reusables in all my other bikes tho, just not in my injected machine...
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: Derek on October 23, 2017, 12:14:11 pm
A online parts look up for the stock filter shows its the same for my 2010 and your 2016.
11013-0014   ELEMENT-AIR FILTER   At $43 I went with the K&N.... 2 changes and its paid for.

Interesting bit from K&N web site about cleaning... "Cleaning your K&N Air Filter is not required if you can still see the wire screen on the entire air filter regardless of how dirty it may appear"  https://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm (https://www.knfilters.com/cleaning.htm)
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: strum on October 23, 2017, 02:18:55 pm
I use a K&N  in my c14 and my truck.
 Yesterday I cleaned and recharged my truck one.
 Its so easy to over spray the oil that im in agreement with MOB that the oil could be an issue.
 I havent done it to my bike one yet but when I do ill spray the oil very very lightly, let it sit to wick in for 20-30 mins and then blot off any excess oil.
 I dont think its an issue if these steps are followed.
 
 
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: Deepsea on October 23, 2017, 06:40:49 pm
I've use K&N filters for lots of dirt bike where the filter needs cleaning or replacement often but not on modern street  bikes. K&N makes the claim "Designed to boost horsepower and rate of acceleration". While it may be "Designed" for this I'm not so sure about the delivery. Especially with the over oiling issues. Before closing my shop I tested several different air filters on a Flow Bench. Whoever designed the OEM filter new their stuff. It [/size]flows almost exactly the same as all the others. I didn't test for particulate removal just mass air flow.[/color]
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 23, 2017, 08:05:05 pm
I use a K&N  in my c14 and my truck.
 Yesterday I cleaned and recharged my truck one.
 Its so easy to over spray the oil that im in agreement with MOB that the oil could be an issue.
 I havent done it to my bike one yet but when I do ill spray the oil very very lightly, let it sit to wick in for 20-30 mins and then blot off any excess oil.
 I dont think its an issue if these steps are followed.
 

Thank you for bringing up the point about "spray"....
Having used K&N's on various machines since 1974, I have always used the aerosol spray, I'm still using my original can I bought back then... simply tells the tale that a lot of oil is not needed... and is the major downfall on the part of K&N as to not showing just how sparingly the amount of oil is needed..
They have always included a "bubble" filled with oil, with their filters, what they refused to caution on is that "bubble" contains enough oil to treat a filter about 25 times..... most people sjmply over oil.
IIRC, the C14 filter comes "pre oiled", and no further oil should be applied at first install...

I'll also note, as long as I have used these, I have cleaned them using kerosene, or stoddard solvent, and after a few cleanings, the adhesive that holds the foam seals to the filter body always deteriorates, and has to be replaced, either using thin double stick film type tape, or some other goopy adhesive.
I've pretty much replaced every foam seal on my filters at least twice, so they ain't "maintenence free" in that respect.

Way back in time, we used to "grease" the inside of the airboxes on our dirtbikes, kinda like buttering a pan for baking, this helped trap dust and debris sucked into, and swirled around, in the airbox before getting to the filters... it did require wiping the inside surfaces out regularly, but it saved the filter media substantially. I still do this on my C10, and my KZ, both of which have a propensity for sucking in dust due to the snorkle locations...
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: JTX on October 24, 2017, 09:55:38 pm
I did a search with no results. I have just purchased a 2016 C14. My 2009 uses a KA1406 K&N air filter. I see no listing for the 2016, so I contact K&N and they won't commit to the fact of if the same filter will work in the 2016. SO, anyone running a K&N and if so, what's the part number. Thanks.


Yeah they dont list it for the 15 either.    I put one in there earlier this year, but I havent ridden with it installed yet. I still need tires.
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: JDSCO on October 24, 2017, 10:08:06 pm
I did a search with no results. I have just purchased a 2016 C14. My 2009 uses a KA1406 K&N air filter. I see no listing for the 2016, so I contact K&N and they won't commit to the fact of if the same filter will work in the 2016. SO, anyone running a K&N and if so, what's the part number. Thanks.

K&N KA-1406
I installed this in my 2008 C14, 40k miles, cleaned annually with K&N filter cleaner, re-oiled and no issues.
I will install this in my 2016 C14 next spring.
Title: Re: K&N Air Filter for 2016
Post by: ghostrider990 on October 25, 2017, 09:50:44 am
I have the off-brand version of the Oil and Gauze Filter, and can't remember what it is, but got it via Amazon.

I think the real trick to making one of these work is NOT over-oiling the surface Media, as MOB covered.

Air Filter choices are almost as personal as Oil Threads - I chose based on my preference, servicing intervals, and cost.
I personally think K+N products are overpriced.

gr