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LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« on: April 08, 2015, 03:53:01 pm »
I just purchased these for my bike and thought before I go ripping into the mirrors to find the best way to install these I should practice on a sacrificial mirror.  That is a problem. No used mirrors on ebay and at $50 to $60 ea. when you find them I might as well go to Project D and get their kit.

So does anyone have a busted mirror they can sell me for cheap or donate to the cause (Concours 14 2008-2015)

I will document the process on the site.  My plan is to either remove the mirror using heat or taking a roto tool and carefully cutting out the backside of the mirror mount and JB welding the arrow the mount.  Of course idea's  and haters (they are people too) are welcome.   


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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 01:07:57 am »
Rambler,
I have a busted mirror you can have for shipping costs. Plastic is busted but not mirror glass or support for glass.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2015, 02:05:25 am »
Rambler,
If you can successfully install these, I think they're cool!
I wasn't brave enough to do that to mine, so I found a decent alternative...

I bought 2 10" red led strips at my local O'Reilly's, and wired them down through the mirror post.

These came with 3M adhesive on the back side. Stuck them along the top inside and bottom inside overhang of the plastic mirror housing. Wallah... Instant flashing red arrow!

I put these on last year, works great and can be seen from behind well.

I'll try to post a pic tomorrow.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 03:11:47 am »
I had a broken mirror at one time and took it apart. The mirror is mounted with a nut and bolt, I think, and then glued into another plastic backing (or some combination of this). I had pics, but think I can find them? Nope. Anyway, I don't think you will be able to get it apart, but give er a try.

Found the pics on another thread. The mirror mount is screwed in and I guess they glue the mirror to it.

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,52156.msg373245.html#msg373245
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2015, 04:26:10 am »
I'm sorry, Rambler, but the things you bought seem like a lot of bother.

Maybe this won't help, but:

I don't know how much they cost you, and the Projekt D kit IS expensive, but they install very easiy.  My first mirror was first time I'd taken the bike apart, so it took longer than the second one.  The second one was super easy.

Good luck!  Will be interesting to see how you proceed.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2015, 03:12:53 pm »
I had a broken mirror at one time and took it apart. The mirror is mounted with a nut and bolt, I think, and then glued into another plastic backing (or some combination of this). I had pics, but think I can find them? Nope. Anyway, I don't think you will be able to get it apart, but give er a try.

Found the pics on another thread. The mirror mount is screwed in and I guess they glue the mirror to it.

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,52156.msg373245.html#msg373245


Thanks gsun,  I see some possibilities.    I think I have a couple ideas based on the photos.

 I might be able to grind off/drill out the screw and remove the mirror and JB weld a larger bolt to the back mount and nut it or heat the mirror so the glue melts and pull it off the mount and detach the mirror back. 

Either way will require a sacrificial mirror which hopefully I can get from mattchewn (I will send a PM to you).  I think this is do-able and will make a great safety add on and add to the forum "brain trust".
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2015, 12:22:13 pm »
A couple of guys over on the other site installed the Projekt D mirror kits and the consensus was that they are not worth the expense or the bother as they are no where near bright enough to be seen during the day. 
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2015, 02:22:30 pm »
I have tne projekt d ones & think  they were worth the money, can be seen during the day but mu,h better at night.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2015, 06:14:00 pm »
A couple of guys over on the other site installed the Projekt D mirror kits and the consensus was that they are not worth the expense or the bother as they are no where near bright enough to be seen during the day. 

Since they did the install they are probably right but looking at this video they seem very bright and I know they will be an attention get-er at night.

Take a look at the video, i almost hurts my eyes looking at the lights in the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_XMzMi9RIA


A technique I may employ that would make it easier (if i don't break the mirror).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvvhmcHmtQ

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2015, 07:33:22 pm »
Here's how mine turned out.
4way flashers are on.





Total cost- $16.00
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 12:50:01 am »
Here's how mine turned out.
4way flashers are on.





Total cost- $16.00
Bob


Was this done with the edge LED ribbon?
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 10:15:40 am »
Looks awesome!

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2015, 12:30:10 pm »
Here's how mine turned out.
4way flashers are on.





Total cost- $16.00
Bob


Was this done with the edge LED ribbon?


Yes. It's about 1/2" wide. 3M adhesive strip on back. Started with the wire end at the top inside, and stuck it to the overhang of the black plastic mirror housing. There's a hole in the center of the frame's hinge point. Routed the wire through that chase, and into the faring. Took about 20 minutes per side.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2015, 12:33:12 pm »
Looks awesome!

Thanks, Scotty!

I'm pleased with the results.
I'm always looking for new ways to increase visibility...especially from a car's vantage point from behind me. These are bright enough they can be seen during the day, too.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2015, 05:33:09 pm »
Great Solution!  I got pulled over by a State Trooper Last night because he could not see my running lights under my GIVI.  I like those lights on the license plate bracket what are they?
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2015, 09:06:01 pm »
That's a tag frame I bought at Cycle Gear.
It comes in chrome or black finish.
It has 2 LED strip lights- 1 top, 1 bottom.
Top left/bottom left (1" wide)= left turn signal.
Top right/bottom right (1"wide)= right turn signal
Top 3" center/ bottom 3" center= tail + brake
Costs around $40, but worth it.
I did have to make a 3/8" hole behind the tag through the plastic fender to run the wiring harness.
Dressed the wires in one of those flexible plastic tubes, ran it up the inside of the fender and up under tge seat for connections. Looks like a factory job.
Had it on the bike now for 2 years, works great.

Highly reccommend one!

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2015, 10:56:49 pm »
Here's how mine turned out.
4way flashers are on.





Total cost- $16.00
Bob


What GPS are you using?  Thanks

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2015, 01:58:45 am »
7" Garmin Nuvi 2798
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2015, 11:16:43 pm »
Thanks for the info, my over 40 eyes are haunting me.   May I ask what mounting equipment and method you used?

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2015, 02:28:58 am »
Sure... Ram makes a mounting bracket that bolts to the handlebars, and is a double ball.
I then used 2 Ram extensions, one long, one short. Short one went to my Ram cell phone mounting plate, which I fastened the backing plate from my Otterbox Defender to. This lets me clip/unclip my phone easily, while holding it firmly in place. I have a lightning charger cord prewired that I plug the phone into.

The long upper extension arm goes to a Ram mounting plate that custom fits the Garmin.
This version Garmin reminds me of a Zumo, the way it has a charger block with several pins that the gps connects to. This block literally fastens with 4 small screws to the Ram mount. The block is then hardwired to the bike's power source. This lets me snap the Garmin on/off easily, yet holds it firmly and securely.
I'm really pleased with this setup! It positions it high, yet not in anythings way, and does not obstruct the view of gauges, switches, mirrors, etc. I no longer have to look down to see the Garmin, and the 7" picture is awesome and easy to read at a glance... and I don't have to take my eyes off the road and look down anymore.

Only drawback is... it's not a Zumo... so it's not waterproof.  Nor is it theftproof.
BUT... It only cost me $200, and not $800, either...

Ram makes some pretty cool stuff for just about anything these days.
I wasn't sure I would be able to mount something this big on the bike anywhere without a lot of shaking... but this setup is stout. No problems.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2015, 02:56:54 am »
$16? Looks really cool. I'm about to put Admores on the front of my mirrors and wouldn't mind adding these at the same time. I can just run to OReilly's and get 'em?

We still have retail stores :-\

Any added info would be great. Great set-up - thanks for sharing it.
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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2015, 10:55:12 am »
$16? Looks really cool. I'm about to put Admores on the front of my mirrors and wouldn't mind adding these at the same time. I can just run to OReilly's and get 'em?

We still have retail stores :-\

Any added info would be great. Great set-up - thanks for sharing it.

Thanks!
Yes, I got mine at my local O'Reilly's Auto Parts store.
They sell them in different colors, but I chose the red.
It may be more proper to choose amber, but I figured that would be too bright at night.
The red still allows me to see things in my mirrors. If they were too bright, that would be a problem... say like if you're merging in heavy traffic on a major highway at night while using the signals.

To route the wiring, I removed the 3 screws that hold the mirror to the bracket at the hinge point. Sending the wire out the mirror, and down through this central hole allows the mirror to move forward/backward without binding or moving the wire. It was easy to find the wires inside the faring that goes to the front signal lights. I attached them to those wires.

I have also seen these LED strips at WalMart, too.
After I first installed them, I wondered how long the adhesive would hold...?
After 2 years- holding great, no problems. 3M makes good adhesive!

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2015, 02:32:55 pm »
Just picked some up. Awesome - thanks man :great:

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2015, 05:19:23 pm »
Sure... Ram makes a mounting bracket that bolts to the handlebars, and is a double ball.
I then used 2 Ram extensions, one long, one short. Short one went to my Ram cell phone mounting plate, which I fastened the backing plate from my Otterbox Defender to. This lets me clip/unclip my phone easily, while holding it firmly in place. I have a lightning charger cord prewired that I plug the phone into.

The long upper extension arm goes to a Ram mounting plate that custom fits the Garmin.
This version Garmin reminds me of a Zumo, the way it has a charger block with several pins that the gps connects to. This block literally fastens with 4 small screws to the Ram mount. The block is then hardwired to the bike's power source. This lets me snap the Garmin on/off easily, yet holds it firmly and securely.
I'm really pleased with this setup! It positions it high, yet not in anythings way, and does not obstruct the view of gauges, switches, mirrors, etc. I no longer have to look down to see the Garmin, and the 7" picture is awesome and easy to read at a glance... and I don't have to take my eyes off the road and look down anymore.

Only drawback is... it's not a Zumo... so it's not waterproof.  Nor is it theftproof.
BUT... It only cost me $200, and not $800, either...

Ram makes some pretty cool stuff for just about anything these days.
I wasn't sure I would be able to mount something this big on the bike anywhere without a lot of shaking... but this setup is stout. No problems.

Thanks again, can you share the vendor you purchased from? 

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Re: LED Flashing Signal MIRROR INSTALL
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2015, 03:11:01 am »
Bought almost all of it either on Amazon (Prime member) or Ebay.
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