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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2015, 10:21:16 am »
They make four foot LED shop lights now ++++ BRIGHT  now how long will they last ?

I've had a pair of LED bulbs in a reading lamp and a desk lamp going nonstop for 2 years, still going strong.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2015, 12:37:29 pm »
With these new LED units u can fit the rubber boot onto the bulb housing after it is installed and BEFORE you screw the fan unit onto the bulb.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2015, 01:34:04 pm »
Thanks Matt

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2015, 10:18:02 am »
hmm any thoughts of the fan on the one, and just the heatsink on the adv monster ??
thanks much guys

looking to pull the trigger soon, still running stock bulbs.

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2015, 06:02:13 pm »
JS,
I think the fan is a better idea only because headlights are frequently mounted in low ventilation/airflow areas. If you know there will be tons of cooling air flowing through then either one would be fine. I would tend to err on the side of caution.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2015, 10:20:10 am »
Thanks Matt, makes sense  :beerchug:

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2015, 10:42:01 am »

I've started to think seriously about replacing my headlight bulbs with LED bulbs. Waited long enough that I never got down the HID route but prefer the LED. Has anyone tried the ADVmonster H4 LED Headlight Rev2 bulbs. They look like the real deal in the description and reviews.http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-led-headlight-rev2 I might try them if anyone has positive feed back. Thanks.

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2015, 07:04:05 pm »

I've started to think seriously about replacing my headlight bulbs with LED bulbs. Waited long enough that I never got down the HID route but prefer the LED. Has anyone tried the ADVmonster H4 LED Headlight Rev2 bulbs. They look like the real deal in the description and reviews.http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-led-headlight-rev2 I might try them if anyone has positive feed back. Thanks.

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thanks for the link, they look like they may work although I run HID's and very happy with them. If you don't get them, please give your impressions, thanks!
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #58 on: April 05, 2015, 08:58:46 pm »
Looks like Amazon ran out ... I can't find any reference to "H4" today ... I'm sure that I have seen it there before ...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MOR4CFQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=25SE4VT1DMXOV&coliid=I35L01DJ8JAVOG&psc=1

Went over to NewBrights website:
http://newbrights.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=73

Website states free shipping on the warranty page ... but charges $5 at checkout .... Arrrrg  :( I emailed them for clarification ... maybe they don't want me to buy them ... >:(

I am amused at NewBrights website anyway ... on the FAQ page it states:
Q. Why do I need ballasts?
A. Standard car headlights run on a 12 volt electrical system. LED lighting systems require over 20,000 volts to ignite the bulbs.

I don't think LEDs require 20K volts ... I think that the ballast provides constant current? ... comments?
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2015, 12:12:50 am »
Looks like Amazon ran out ... I can't find any reference to "H4" today ... I'm sure that I have seen it there before ...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MOR4CFQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=25SE4VT1DMXOV&coliid=I35L01DJ8JAVOG&psc=1


They will be back, the H13 version was gone for a while, and Amazon didn't know "when or if" they would be back in stock. Now they are back.

 I imagine they just sold the heck out the H13s for vehicles like my truck, and also H4s for all kinds of bikes and some cars too.

I've been toying with getting factory remote start for my truck, and Amazon sells the factory kit. It goes out of stock all the time, and shows back up a week or two later.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2015, 02:58:34 am »
LED HID lighting systems require over 20,000 volts to ignite the bulbs.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2015, 11:30:05 am »
LED HID lighting systems require over 20,000 volts to ignite the bulbs.

Yeah ... Cut and paste can be a b$$tch ... I love web pages for their inaccuracies ... :truce:
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #62 on: April 06, 2015, 03:07:34 pm »
I love web pages for there their inaccuracies ... :truce:
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #63 on: April 06, 2015, 04:30:43 pm »
Hey ... I ain't sayin' that I can spell 'er right! I just complains a lot ... ::)

Typo corrected!
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2015, 11:43:05 am »
Anybody have any updates on the LED bulbs they installed, or did install since this thread pootered-out a month  or so ago??

Been considering this option for a while, but prefer to stay -away from the Chinese Ebay vendors.
I have a 3x HID setup on my APrilia, and it seems to have finally given up the ghost this year, and I'll
probably make her my guinea pig foran LED headlight experiment before trying this in the Kawi.

Looking for actual hours in the bike with LED's running, not what you THINK you want to install later.....

thanks guys!

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2015, 12:09:16 pm »
Check these out,expensive but they also have cheaper ones. http://www.vleds.com/led-headlights/all/h4-9003-hb2/h4-lmz.html

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2015, 07:08:15 pm »
All,

Sorry about the slow response ...

I loaded up the New Brights LED Headlight Conversion Kit H4 (HB2) (9003) Dual-beam LED – $130
These are dual emitter LEDs

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MOR4CFQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=25SE4VT1DMXOV&coliid=I35L01DJ8JAVOG&psc=1

Overall impressions relative to the OEM halogens; 1) whiter light, 2) dispersion has no bright spots 3) brightness is not a lot different (but I haven't been riding a lot at night in Florida) and 4) installation was pretty easy. I like them, but I am not sure that HID guys are going to want to change over "immediately"

Pictures show: 1) LED installed on the (driver's) right (white) and halogen on the (driver's) left (orange), high beam and low beam.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2015, 02:09:23 pm »
Thanks for showing the way Aussie.  :great:  While the LED’s may not yet be on par with the HID, I think they are much better than the Stock Halogen. I’m on my third set of Phillips Vision +100 extremes, and they fade over time, and have burned out once a season, so I have been replacing them in pairs. 

The LED Mondo-Moto MM-10’s and LED city lights I’m using are bright while.  The Phillips extreme are yellowish just like your photo shows.  So, if nothing else, having all white lights and a 25,000-30,000 hours of life, are enough to get me to pull the trigger on your link and meet my goal.  I don’t ride much at night, so the performance of the HID’s is not that important to me.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2015, 06:02:12 pm »
I have mounted my MondoMotoS recently too ... I need to post an update on that.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2015, 11:27:03 am »
Good pics, thanks Aussie!  :beerchug:

I think the overall consensus, is that LED's while offering several advantages
over halogen, don't necessarily put-out MORE light, and particularly in compariosn to HID.

Personally, I want the best of all worlds, but a pNp HID kit (ie: glare kit) was not in the cards for me.
Ideally, I'd be spending nearly $1k to upgrade the entire reflector unit into bi-zenon HID units from Lightwerkz.
LED drop-in do indeed offer a more uniform white/blue light to match the LED drop ins that most of us have installed in the city lights, but relatively speaking, we aren't gaining much in light output vs. oem halogens, or  even aftermarkets that burnout prematurely.

I'm still on the fence about what to do, but I'm certain now that LED's have NOT progressed far enough to provide an UPGRADE to light output or better nighttime vision on the road.

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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2015, 11:58:20 am »
One thing that worries me about the HID's, is reliability.  I have been riding with a guy this summer.  It's hit or miss as to whether or not both of his HID's will be on.  It seems that when he shuts down, there is a chance that one or the other HID's will not fire up.  He really has no way of telling if he is running with one light. 

Is that a common issue with HID's?   ::)
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2015, 04:42:08 pm »
Is that a common issue with HID's?   ::)
The FJR forum posited that it was possibly a low voltage issue to the ballasts while cranking the engine & recommended delaying the HID start with a delay circuit. I made my own ballast delay (10-15sec after start) for my FJR & it works well but I only run HID on the left side. My C10 Concours has a single HID that always goes on so maybe dual ballasts draw a slug of start current along with the starter that causes the problem?
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2015, 10:00:48 pm »
My 2 cents ... For what it's worth ...

Wiring the circuit with high gauge (small diameter) wire (e.g., the existing cable) can also cause a voltage drop. So if you haven't rewired with heavier gauge wire, to the battery or a high power circuit, it could cause this problem.
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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #73 on: June 02, 2015, 11:18:05 pm »
All,

Sorry about the slow response ...

I loaded up the New Brights LED Headlight Conversion Kit H4 (HB2) (9003) Dual-beam LED – $130
These are dual emitter LEDs

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MOR4CFQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=25SE4VT1DMXOV&coliid=I35L01DJ8JAVOG&psc=1

Overall impressions relative to the OEM halogens; 1) whiter light, 2) dispersion has no bright spots 3) brightness is not a lot different (but I haven't been riding a lot at night in Florida) and 4) installation was pretty easy. I like them, but I am not sure that HID guys are going to want to change over "immediately"

Pictures show: 1) LED installed on the (driver's) right (white) and halogen on the (driver's) left (orange), high beam and low beam.

As expected the LED's at the Amazon link Aussie provided are bright white and match the other LED's. I'm very happy with the brightness, high beam and pattern, but have not yet tested them at night.

The installation is straight forward, but if you have large hands and have replaced the bulbs before you know what I mean. Here are a few tips.

-remove the left and right upper fairing covers.
-remove the stock bulbs
-Run the LED Bulb wire lead through the center of the large weather grommet.
-install the rubber grommet onto the LED bulb before installing. Fold the grommet backwards and mash it into a tight ball. It actually makes installing the bulb easier since the grommet becomes a handle.
-orient the LED with the horizontal detent at the bottom
-after securely fitting the bulb just like the stock, make sure the rubber grommet is fitted and tight with the wire locking mechanism.
-screw on the fan assembly, the fan wire ends up being on top
-there is a horizontal fairing stay just under the left and right part of the dash. The wires are the perfect length to allow tie wraps to secure though the mounting tabs on to the two small Balusters to the fairing stays.

One thing I noticed when testing the LED against the halogen. The lens on the halogen was Very hot. The LED lens was cool to the touch.

I took my time and made sure I installed right, since I don't expect to go though a bulb replacement for at least 25,000 hours of riding.  :motonoises:


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Re: LED headlight install (single emitter)
« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2015, 11:00:33 am »
Concur with 4Bikes ... It is tight in there.

I was able to install mine without removing anything (so I might have medium size hands ... But hopefully not girly hands). :D

A couple of tips from the forum. Bike was on the center stand. Rotate the front wheel out of the way of the lamp you are replacing. Study (for a few minutes) how the latching mechanism works ... So you get the hang of it ... With the halogen installed, I opened and locked the clamp a couple of times to get some motor memory. Stretch a little before you do the acrobatics.  ::)
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