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Concours 14 Discussion (C14 / ZG1400 / 1400GTR) => Accessories C14 => Topic started by: DanZX14 on May 07, 2018, 04:42:27 pm

Title: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: DanZX14 on May 07, 2018, 04:42:27 pm
I am from Canada and I was wondering if any of you heard about ODX lights?

They sell LED headlights and as per my Kawi dealer, all customer that bought those kits were satisfied.
I spoke with one of their rep and he told me that if I was not happy with the result, they will take the kit back without any problems.
But still, I'd like to get it right in one attempt  :great:

I've got 2 kits to choose from:
ODX X3 series which is a pack of 2x  H4 (total 6000 lumens) 6500k with heatsink only and 12 years warranty.
or ODX S2 series which is 1x H4 (4000 lumens) so would be an output of 8000 lumens since I need 2, 6500k with heatsink and a fan but 2 years warranty only.

My main concern with LED headlight is not how much more bright they are compare to stock lights.
I am more interested in having my headlights covering more distance ahead of the bike and a wider angle if thats possible.
Do LED headlights do that ?  Or I will end up with brighter output but shorter range?

And I have seen some HID reviews but I am concern about the sharp cut off they seems to provide.

What are your experiences with headlights overall ?
Title: Re: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: BiggusDekkus on May 07, 2018, 05:28:21 pm
There are two characteristics of a headlight to consider, the lumens output and temperature (related to color).  More lumens equals more light, but also more power draw (watt).  LED are most efficient at producing greatest lumens per watt required.  For temperature, 3000K=yellow, 4300=white/yellow tinge, 6000K=white, 8000K=white/blue tinge, 10000K=blue.  A higher temperature reflects better, a lower temperature penetrates better.  My opinion is that the 6000K is ideal for headlights, it's a good compromise providing reasonable penetration with high reflectivity for detecting hazards off to each side.

I researched LED lights, tried one type that I didn't like, returned them, then bought the LASFIT.  These are awesome, 10,000 lumens super bright and easy install.  Read down towards the bottom of this thread below to see my review and pictures:
http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/led-lights-for-c14-hikari-or-others/ (http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/led-lights-for-c14-hikari-or-others/)

Title: Re: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: Syxxphive on May 07, 2018, 06:11:45 pm
Keep in mind too that HID lights are not suitable in reflector housings not designed for them. Light scatters all over the place as the position of the origin of light is different than a regular bulb. HID needs projectors to function properly. Otherwise youre simply blinding and dazzling oncoming traffic.

There are projectors available that will fit in the housing, however it’s definitely not a plug and play install.

https://www.ktmotorcycle.com/kawasaki-concours-14-1400gtr-2008-2017-hid-projectors-led-headlight-assembly.html (https://www.ktmotorcycle.com/kawasaki-concours-14-1400gtr-2008-2017-hid-projectors-led-headlight-assembly.html)

Here’s a link to a drop in housing with projectors installed. Just needs to be wired in. Not cheap though. I also haven’t done any research as to their quality.
Title: Re: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: Syxxphive on May 07, 2018, 06:16:04 pm
NinjaBreadMan... 4300k is what manufacturers use for original equipment as it’s the closest to sunlight as far as color. A few use 5000 for just a tinge of blue, but you do lose some visibility.
Title: Re: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: works4me on May 07, 2018, 07:23:42 pm
quote: Or I will end up with brighter output but shorter range?

This has been my experience with LEDs in vehicles not
specifically designed for them.
What may seem spectacular in the garage is often much
less so out on the road.
Title: Re: LED headlight kit or....
Post by: BiggusDekkus on May 07, 2018, 09:15:27 pm
NinjaBreadMan... 4300k is what manufacturers use for original equipment as it’s the closest to sunlight as far as color. A few use 5000 for just a tinge of blue, but you do lose some visibility.


Yes, but the LED headlights I bought are 10,000 lumens, so these more than make up for the color difference with added brightness.  And, the 6000K reflects hazards & signs along the side of the road better.  If you want reach, low-mounted spotlights are the best solution, here's a link to mounting:  http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/aux-light-attachment-to-front-struts/ (http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/aux-light-attachment-to-front-struts/)