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OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« on: July 16, 2015, 04:42:28 am »
Maybe many of you already knew this but I found out after buying a couple of filters at a dealership last weekend.

OEM Oil Filter 16097-0004 (made in Japan)

has been replaced by

OEM Oil Filter 16097-0008 (made in China)

And they charged me 33% more!! >:(



OEM Oil Filter 16097-0004 (made in Japan)   http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/f94/new-oem-ol-filters-223122.html



OEM Oil Filter 16097-0008 (made in China)
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2015, 09:12:31 am »
I've been thinking of buying a few of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181743689478?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&fromMakeTrack=true

Anyone ever try them...or fondled one and would admits to its....err-r construction?
 :o


Also, can someone link the correct size oil filter cap, used when removing the filter that attaches to a socket wrench....perhaps Amazon, TIA :great:
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2015, 12:40:52 pm »
Hi,
       Just buy the K&N Filter! :-[

Great quality, has the "Nut" on the front for easy on/off! :great:

And IMO should be running Synthetic anyway! ;D
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2015, 12:48:51 pm »
PUROLATER 14610 and 14612 filters have been fine on my bike for more than 107,000 miles. 

They were also great on my ZX14  :great:





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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2015, 02:16:09 pm »
That PUROLATER 14610 is the same filter I use on my 2009 Honda Fit, pretty cheap from Advanced Auto using the A124 promo code.
Guess I'll get those from now on...tho I'm probably trading it in this Fall for a Suby Cross-trek....
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2015, 02:18:17 pm »
Hi,
       Jeez! Somebody else, actually put some pics up! :great:

   I'm feeling faint! ;D
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2015, 03:49:10 pm »
I use the Baldwin B1402 extended (longer) oil filter on the C14 and ZX14, standard size is the B1400. Used the Purolator's in the past when Amazon has them at discount.  :beerchug:
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2015, 11:03:05 pm »
Hi,
       Jeez! Somebody else, actually put some pics up! :great:

   I'm feeling faint! ;D


We are all winners then. ;D


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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2015, 11:59:32 pm »
Hi,
       Jeez! Somebody else, actually put some pics up! :great:

   I'm feeling faint! ;D

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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2015, 12:44:49 am »
Hi,
       Just buy the K&N Filter! :-[

Great quality, has the "Nut" on the front for easy on/off! :great:

And IMO should be running Synthetic anyway! ;D

Also now made in China         >:(

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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2015, 12:46:18 am »
Hi,
       Jeez! Somebody else, actually put some pics up! :great:

   I'm feeling faint! ;D

Those were real pics of my old Zx14.... oh the memories  :beerchug:
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2015, 01:54:56 am »
Hi,
       Just buy the K&N Filter! :-[

Great quality, has the "Nut" on the front for easy on/off! :great:

And IMO should be running Synthetic anyway! ;D

Also now made in China         >:(

Hi,
        Had to check on that, but you are correct! Bummer! Politicians have sold us down the river I guess!

It is a good filter and recommended when using synthetic oil! Just the same!

Oh yea! SNAP-ON is also going Chi-Com!
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2015, 04:09:42 am »
If you are interested in a high quality, synthetic filter, that I believe is still manufactured in the U.S.
Mobil 1 makes a motorcycle filter.  P/N M1MC-134.

I did a cross reference and found it is a replacement for Kawasaki P/N 16097-0002, which is superseded  by 16097-0004, (The C14 filter made in Japan), which is superseded by 16097-0008. (The current C14 filter made in China).

Not the cheapest by any means but very high quality. Been using them on my trucks for years.

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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2015, 11:21:06 pm »
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2015, 11:46:25 pm »
Amsoil also makes an excellent full synthetic media filter that fits the C14: 

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/motorcycle/amsoil-eaom-motorcycle-oil-filters/?code=EAOM103


Hi,
       Well, they are proud of their filters it seems!

That won't appeal to guys that think they are paying to much if the filter is over $5!

I don't see it that way, oil and filters are cheaper than steel, and if you run your synthetic for 10,000 miles you got your moneys worth to me! ;D

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 03:20:12 pm »
Amsoil also makes an excellent full synthetic media filter that fits the C14: 

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/filters-and-by-pass-systems/motorcycle/amsoil-eaom-motorcycle-oil-filters/?code=EAOM103


Hi,
       Well, they are proud of their filters it seems!

That won't appeal to guys that think they are paying to much if the filter is over $5!

I don't see it that way, oil and filters are cheaper than steel, and if you run your synthetic for 10,000 miles you got your moneys worth to me! ;D

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml


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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2015, 05:13:35 pm »
Personally I like Bosch filters. #3323 Available at Autozone for around $6
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2015, 06:06:42 pm »
Personally I like Bosch filters. #3323 Available at Autozone for around $6


Hi,
        I like Bosch,have used their filters on my truck before!

If you look at my link in the post^^^^^^^^ above, you will notice that there is NOT a lot of difference in the top rated filters!

These all go from about $6-$17 bucks apiece, what you use and feel is right in the quality/price ratio is up to you I guess!

When I first started using synthetic oil,K&N was reccomended to me by people I trusted and I have had no problems.

I run my oil to 10,000 miles and then change my oil and filter.

I know guys that run to 10,000,then change only the filter,top up the oil level and run 10,000 more before changing oil and filter.

With a K&N as I said! ;D

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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2015, 01:10:52 am »
Uh, oh....this thread is quickly degrading to an oil filter debate!  :truce:

....while we're at it, i'll throw-in my 2c for the MOBIL1 filter (can you say, synthetic filter media?)and also
good old WIX filters.
If I'm not mistaken, there is a cross-reference thread in the sticky section for oil filters that fit our bikes.

Mobil1 oil and filters for me please!

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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2015, 02:29:48 am »
I run Amsoil filters on mine. Cost is usually around 7 bucks. Sorry Seagiant, but as much as I like K+N products, I don't care for their oil filters. They allow too large of particles through.
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2015, 05:49:52 am »
I'm going to stick to OEM filters during warranty. But it's not where the filers are made; it's HOW. FRAM are reportedly the worst by far, and are (or used to be) made in the US. With about 3K miles per oil chance (what I ride per year avg), and now with a magnetic drain plug, I'm not too worried about oil filter quality. When you need a better filter is when you start pushing the OCI (oil change interval) into 5 digits. I change it at 5K in my cars, so not a worry either. An oil change with Mobil1 cost me about $30 per vehicle (I enjoy doing that myself, while checking for leaks everywhere), plus I recycle, so not a bad deal for me or the environment. If my vehicles weren't driven that many short distances, I'd extend the OCI more. Don't want any acids in my engine because additive package was depleted. But to each his own.
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Re: OEM Oil Filters are made in China, not Japan
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2015, 05:07:50 pm »
I'm going to stick to OEM filters during warranty. But it's not where the filers are made; it's HOW. FRAM are reportedly the worst by far, and are (or used to be) made in the US. With about 3K miles per oil chance (what I ride per year avg), and now with a magnetic drain plug, I'm not too worried about oil filter quality. When you need a better filter is when you start pushing the OCI (oil change interval) into 5 digits. I change it at 5K in my cars, so not a worry either. An oil change with Mobil1 cost me about $30 per vehicle (I enjoy doing that myself, while checking for leaks everywhere), plus I recycle, so not a bad deal for me or the environment. If my vehicles weren't driven that many short distances, I'd extend the OCI more. Don't want any acids in my engine because additive package was depleted. But to each his own.

Hi,
       Well... I work as a Marine Engineer and we hardly ever change oil on the big diesels, but then we continuously centrifuge (rotary purifier) the oil to get rid of water and solids!

We do "sweeten" the sump on occasion with new oil but rarely dump the sump unless needing to clean the inside of sump (years) on occasion!

As I said, I know people that run synthetic 20,000 miles no problem with only a filter change at 10,000! ;D

Of course everyone has to find their comfort level!
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