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Offline turbojoe78_MA

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Motorcycle Tunes
« on: September 08, 2017, 09:54:47 pm »
Last month I installed an audio system on my C14.

I have a system on my C10 that has been going strong now for at least 5 years with only one speaker going bad after 4 or so years.  That system was only 200W or 250W and after around 75 mph got hard to listen to.

The new one on the C14 is a 800W system and when played loud sounds much better, it's been taken to triple digits and can still be listened to.

https://www.sharkmotorcycleaudio.com/products/shkc7120-2ch-class-d-motorcycle-audio-system-800-watts-2-remotes.html
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 10:30:12 pm »
First off, I'm glad you're happy with your tunes.  I used to try to do that back in the day with a cyclesound mounted in my Vetter Windjammer.  I'm happier with my bluetooth helmet than trying to hear a stereo mounted on a bike.  What I want to pass on to you is that the crazy 800 watt rating they give for your system.....or any other inexpensive system that makes claims like that, is most likely very untrue. Just to make it a bit easier to understand, consider this:  When you see your favorite guitarist ripping peoples ears out with a Marshall stack, that Marshall amp, in many cases is a 50 or 100 watt amp.  You'd have to have a big place to be able to turn up a 100 watt Marshall.  A 50 watt Marshall is still really loud.  When I say loud I mean deafen you loud. The most powerful Pioneer home receiver was the SX1980, introduced in 1978. It weighed in at 78lbs.  Power was 270 watts if I remember correctly.  This was back when audio equipment was built like tanks and high quality.  I'm just saying don't believe everything you read about audio equipment.  If it cost $110 bucks, it's not gonna put out 800 watts, or anywhere close to it.  I'm sure someone on here can give you a more technical opinion about what I'm saying.  Only posting this so you know when someone is blowing smoke up your butt.  It pisses me off when I see stuff like that from manufacturers because many people just don't know what a big bunch of hoo ha it is.

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2017, 10:33:25 pm »
Joe - nothings better than a nice set of noise cancelling earbuds. give it some consideration - Steve

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2017, 11:58:20 pm »
Sorry bud, that's not an 800w system. RMS on that system is 80w 2ch. 2ch 80w is the correct designation for this stereo system.

See on your little amp? How it says 800w "PMPO"? That means peak momentary power output. This is a controversial marketing ploy to get consumers to believe something about a stereo system that just isn't so. PMPO only happens for milliseconds during peak performance under perfect conditions. RMS is what you will normally experience and can be measured consistently over steady periods of time.

80w watts is still a monster system though for a bike.

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2017, 12:09:31 am »
Last month I installed an audio system on my C14.

I have a system on my C10 that has been going strong now for at least 5 years with only one speaker going bad after 4 or so years.  That system was only 200W or 250W and after around 75 mph got hard to listen to.

The new one on the C14 is a 800W system and when played loud sounds much better, it's been taken to triple digits and can still be listened to.

https://www.sharkmotorcycleaudio.com/products/shkc7120-2ch-class-d-motorcycle-audio-system-800-watts-2-remotes.html

Better take a CLOSER look at the output... 80w in 2 channels.. so maybe 40w per channel? I doubt that also... especially coming from a 3" diameter speaker???
Come on man... wake up, stop dreaming... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Some people will believe anything... :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2017, 12:13:17 am »
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This is a controversial marketing ploy to get consumers to believe something about a stereo system that just isn't so. PMPO only happens for milliseconds during peak performance under perfect conditions. RMS is what you will normally experience and can be measured consistently over steady periods of time.

This is exactly my point.  Seems like 800 watts was at the top of the description, not 80.....and I'm still not buying that it's 80.  Deceptive deceptive.  I don't recommend anyone buy anything from a company that tries to sell something based on deception....call me crazy or just difficult.....that's just me.  Is honesty valued anymore? :??:

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2017, 12:21:26 am »
I have a set of RTR Eviction series EV15's sitting in my living room.. before I fried my amp/reciever, at 3/4 range, with my ears almost bleeding, I will say that no 3" speaker is gonna produce anything other than squawky sounds, even at 8 watts of power.. my RTR's could "safely" eat 200-250 watts, but they weigh in at 75# each, and have 15" woofers..

So... I guess I need that cheapo amp to drive them... heheheheheheh.. size of a pack o Camel straights... and only 12v.. gimme some...
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2017, 12:52:41 am »
I don't care if it's 800 watt, 80 watt, 8 watt or 8000 watt, and anything bigger than a 3" speaker on a motorcycle would look way too big to me.

I just know that when I'm riding around on the back roads those 3" speakers sound better to me than the 1/2" speakers in my Sena headset.  And I never listen to it at obnoxious levels because I still want to be able to hear what's going on around me.

I like to listen to music ... when I'm working, playing ... or riding.

It works for me, you do what works for you ... it's all good!  :) :motonoises: :motonoises:
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 01:02:08 am »
Today in Modesto a guy riding with his mega sounds blasting didn't hear the police siren or see the flashing lights. It wasn't pretty and he is now in the hospital. The cop had minor injuries but the bike and car had major damage.


Just saying.
Loud bikes save lives is BS.


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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2017, 10:13:11 am »
I don't care if it's 800 watt, 80 watt, 8 watt or 8000 watt, and anything bigger than a 3" speaker on a motorcycle would look way too big to me.

I just know that when I'm riding around on the back roads those 3" speakers sound better to me than the 1/2" speakers in my Sena headset.  And I never listen to it at obnoxious levels because I still want to be able to hear what's going on around me.

I like to listen to music ... when I'm working, playing ... or riding.

It work for me, you do what works for you ... it's all good!  :) :motonoises: :motonoises:

The only reason for my post was to educate you....not slam you for wanting to listen to music....or slam you about how you listen to music....or how loud you listen to music.  The point I was really trying to make is that the manufacturer was being deceptive.  I even started my post with if you like it I'm good with that.  If I'm with a buddy and he goes to buy something and some salesman is trying to deceive him, I'm going to tell him about it.  If he still wants whatever that is, then it's all good.  I want people to make informed decisions and know when someone has basically lied to them.  If I offended you by trying to tell you someone has lied to you, then my apologies to you.  I guess it's my problem not understanding why you seem to be offended.  If someone on here hears someone lying to me and I'm not informed enough to know it, please tell me.  I'd really appreciate it.  Once again sorry for offending you.

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2017, 12:39:16 pm »
I don't care if it's 800 watt, 80 watt, 8 watt or 8000 watt, and anything bigger than a 3" speaker on a motorcycle would look way too big to me.

I just know that when I'm riding around on the back roads those 3" speakers sound better to me than the 1/2" speakers in my Sena headset.  And I never listen to it at obnoxious levels because I still want to be able to hear what's going on around me.

I like to listen to music ... when I'm working, playing ... or riding.

It work for me, you do what works for you ... it's all good!  :) :motonoises: :motonoises:

The only reason for my post was to educate you....not slam you for wanting to listen to music....or slam you about how you listen to music....or how loud you listen to music.  The point I was really trying to make is that the manufacturer was being deceptive.  I even started my post with if you like it I'm good with that.  If I'm with a buddy and he goes to buy something and some salesman is trying to deceive him, I'm going to tell him about it.  If he still wants whatever that is, then it's all good.  I want people to make informed decisions and know when someone has basically lied to them.  If I offended you by trying to tell you someone has lied to you, then my apologies to you.  I guess it's my problem not understanding why you seem to be offended.  If someone on here hears someone lying to me and I'm not informed enough to know it, please tell me.  I'd really appreciate it.  Once again sorry for offending you.

Bud, no problem here.  I didn't take it that you were picking on me, I know where your coming from.  I knew when I bought the system that I wasn't getting an incredibly powerful system, hell, I only paid $110 for it.  I guess I listed what they showed for power, for comparison against the old system on my C10.  The new one will clearly get louder, and still sound good. (for what it is)

So, no offence taken.  I do understand your point about dishonest advertising, I guess I've gotten so used to it I don't notice it much anymore.
I just got used to getting what I expected instead of what is advertised.

Anyway, I had a nice ride home last night after working 16 hours.  Put the tunes on, set the cruise control for 64 mph (55 mph zone) and let the bike take me home.  Did the same this morning at 5:15 am back to work, except at 69 mph.  For a (very) cheap system, it really doesn't sound all that bad.  And it makes ME happy ...  :) :beerchug: :beerchug:
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2018, 04:00:07 pm »
Awesome!
I have been looking for a framework to install some speakers on my 2008 Connie.
I am interested in how you are mounting the speakers and amp.
Thank you so much in advance.
Is that a bluetooth system?

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2018, 12:35:48 am »
Man, has anyone ever worked up a pumping system using the top Case? That would be wicked cool project!

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2018, 01:57:49 pm »
Turbo,
Are the speakers mounted to a single bolt?
Do they move around?
Can you show a closer picture of the mount? >:D

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2018, 09:14:25 pm »
Both of my C14s and one of my Valkyries have a Yaesu FTM-10SR (2M/440 dual-band transceiver) mounted. I'm a licensed amateur, and the rigs allow me to communicate with other mobile hams or those at fixed sites. Handy for mobile check-in calls to a regional hamfest, should I decide to get there by motorcycle.

The other thing these rigs offer is a decent AM/FM stereo receiver and they'll cover a goodly amount of public service spectrum as well. Mine are run with J&M headsets (both corded and Bluetooth) and hearing approaching traffic isn't a problem.

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2018, 12:26:51 am »
turbojoe78_MA,

Thanks for the write up on this product and providing your experience! This seems to work for you and someone considering this may find this useful.
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2018, 01:46:51 pm »
Here is the thread that started my quest to get a sound system on my bike.  I had a similar system on my C10 and had thought about mounting the speakers from the two screws there but with some kind of spacers and a plate.  When DelRIo showed what he had made for his GPS mounting, and then said he would make more I figured it would be the best way for me to start and bought two from him.

After he sold all the ones he made, he made a second batch and I believe they sold out too.  Don't know if he would be willing to make more.

http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c14/new-gpsaccessory-mount/msg544354/#msg544354
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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 06:58:57 pm »
Cycle Sounds, Uniq Cycle Sounds, Shark and others are all out of business now.  Steel Horse Audio has stepped up and is making some top end handlebar mounted systems...  Been around a few years now too...  Check them out at https://www.steelhorseaudio.com.  They also have a Trade-In / Trade-Up program to get some credit for your old crappy systems.. (even Motorcycle Tunes)

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Re: Motorcycle Tunes
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2018, 02:47:27 pm »
i guess i need to revisit speaker tech as ive never heard a speaker that can sound clearer or better than a decent set of 25 dollar ear buds plugged into my phones playlist. and no one can steal or damage my audio system